[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO

Fri Nov 5 18:29:57 CET 2010

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+Le 05/11/2010 03:12, andre999 a écrit :
+>
+>>
+>> Le 2010-11-02 08:02, Tux99 a écrit :
+>>> On Tue, 2 Nov 2010, Frank Griffin wrote:
+>>>
+>>>> Tux99 wrote:
+>>>>> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Frank Griffin wrote:
+>>>>>> Weak point:
+>>>>>>
+>>>>>> Unless you are prepared to do full intensive QA on the updated 
+>>>>>> distro,
+>>>>>> the quality of these updated ISOs can be significantly lower than 
+>>>>>> the
+>>>>>> quality of the original release ISO.  Since it will look, for all
+>>>>>> intents and purposes, like the release ISO, that level of quality 
+>>>>>> will
+>>>>>> be what people expect of it.
+>>>>>>
+>>>>> Nonsense. The normal updates are not any more unstable than the 
+>>>>> original
+>>>>> release, rather the contrary.
+>>>> I suggest you review MDV's release procedures.  Full releases and
+>>>> security updates go through formal QA.  Backports are often not even
+>>>> tested by the person building the rpm.
+>>>
+>>> Backports? Who is talking about backports?
+>>> We are talking about normal security and bug-fix updates here.
+> If one selects "all updates" in Rpmdrake, it includes backports, if 
+> such repositorys are enabled.
+>
+>>>> And they get addressed through updates which themselves go through QA.
+>>>
+>>> Exactly, that's why it make sense to release an updated iso with them
+>>> included.
+>>
+>> Agreed, we are not talking about backports at all. This issue is 
+>> about giving out an ISO disk with all official updates (to that date) 
+>> to people who cannot have their slow telephone hookup tied up for the 
+>> day to download our Mageia product or to user who have no hookup to 
+>> the internet at all.
+>>
+>> Surely, the official updates have been thoroughly tested just as the 
+>> original release? It not, then a warning should be put out to 
+>> users/members that the official updates do not have the same level of 
+>> QA as the original release.
+>>
+>> Marc
+>
+> Even bugfixes often have errors.  Many times I've seen bugfixes of 
+> bugfixes, and sometimes bugfixes of bugfixes of bugfixes.  (If you 
+> read the description.)
+> If we go for incremental rpms (very much smaller), the only advantage 
+> I see is for those without Internet connexion.
+> In that case, they wouldn't likely be vulnerable to security problems. 
+>  So that leaves (other) bugfixes.
+> This is something that I think, for the time being at least, can be 
+> best adressed on an individual or local community basis.
+>
+> - André
+>
+>
+There is a solution called draklive. Maybe could it be usefull to take 
+advantage of this tool to rebuild automatically by a script on the 
+servers the isos from updated repositories. I do it locally for my work 
+to install mdv rapidly.
+David
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