[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO

Fri Nov 5 03:12:19 CET 2010

>
+> Le 2010-11-02 08:02, Tux99 a écrit :
+>> On Tue, 2 Nov 2010, Frank Griffin wrote:
+>>
+>>> Tux99 wrote:
+>>>> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Frank Griffin wrote:
+>>>>> Weak point:
+>>>>>
+>>>>> Unless you are prepared to do full intensive QA on the updated 
+>>>>> distro,
+>>>>> the quality of these updated ISOs can be significantly lower than the
+>>>>> quality of the original release ISO.  Since it will look, for all
+>>>>> intents and purposes, like the release ISO, that level of quality 
+>>>>> will
+>>>>> be what people expect of it.
+>>>>>
+>>>> Nonsense. The normal updates are not any more unstable than the 
+>>>> original
+>>>> release, rather the contrary.
+>>> I suggest you review MDV's release procedures.  Full releases and
+>>> security updates go through formal QA.  Backports are often not even
+>>> tested by the person building the rpm.
+>>
+>> Backports? Who is talking about backports?
+>> We are talking about normal security and bug-fix updates here.
+If one selects "all updates" in Rpmdrake, it includes backports, if such 
+repositorys are enabled.
+
+>>> And they get addressed through updates which themselves go through QA.
+>>
+>> Exactly, that's why it make sense to release an updated iso with them
+>> included.
+>
+> Agreed, we are not talking about backports at all. This issue is about 
+> giving out an ISO disk with all official updates (to that date) to 
+> people who cannot have their slow telephone hookup tied up for the day 
+> to download our Mageia product or to user who have no hookup to the 
+> internet at all.
+>
+> Surely, the official updates have been thoroughly tested just as the 
+> original release? It not, then a warning should be put out to 
+> users/members that the official updates do not have the same level of 
+> QA as the original release.
+>
+> Marc
+
+Even bugfixes often have errors.  Many times I've seen bugfixes of 
+bugfixes, and sometimes bugfixes of bugfixes of bugfixes.  (If you read 
+the description.)
+If we go for incremental rpms (very much smaller), the only advantage I 
+see is for those without Internet connexion.
+In that case, they wouldn't likely be vulnerable to security problems. 
+  So that leaves (other) bugfixes.
+This is something that I think, for the time being at least, can be best 
+adressed on an individual or local community basis.
+
+- André
+
+