[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо

Wed Sep 22 16:41:02 CEST 2010

Le mardi 21 septembre 2010 à 16:53 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit :
+
+> Would it make sense to also have a section for "mageia" domain owners to 
+> track domain owners who are willing to cooperate? You will eventually 
+> have to do this anyway. I would also consider this also a type of offer 
+> of cooperation and help.
+
+Personally, I think we should not collect all domain names to give them
+to the association :
+
+1) each domain name will need admin time. Either to manage ( ie, set up
+vhost, setup the zone, add a entry to the zone etc ), or to renew. While
+renewing 1 domain name every year is easy, renewing 10 or 20 on 10 to 20
+different resellers, for different prices and so on will be quite
+annoying. 
+
+2) this will also generate work for people in charge of comptability,
+and we know that people doing the work of a CFO are a scarce ressources
+( CFO may not be the proper word, but I didn't found better ).
+
+3) too much domain name will cost money. I think that what ever we have,
+money would likely better used everywhere than domain name.
+
+
+Next it depend on what we do for the domain, but basically, either it is
+use for http, or for mail.
+
+If we use for http :
+
+4) too much domain will be a pain from a ssl point of view. If we start
+to need ssl for a site, and there is 10 Vhost for it, we will just have
+10 time the work to renew certificates.
+
+5) too much domain will also requires more work for simple http, since
+we will have lots of them. 
+
+6) too much different url will just mean more confusion. I may also fear
+this could be seen by major search engine as unethic SEO, and thus be
+punished ( since link farm is a commonly used technic to try to hijack
+some keywords ). But Google, Yahoo and Bing systems are closed source,
+so I do not know.
+
+If we use for mail :
+
+7) too much domain will simply mean more spam. If we offer multiple
+email ( like "example at mageia.org, and .de, and .fr and .cn, and so on ),
+email will simply appear in more list, and therefore be more spammed.
+
+8) too much domain will simply mean more work. Again, if we use every
+domain for mail be it a multi domain alias, or worst, let the choice, we
+will need to take this in account in lots of place in the information
+system, and this will mean more work, more complexity, more fragility.
+
+9) and of course, too much domain name, like for websites will mean more
+confusion.
+
+And finally, as I said before, we had a hard time finding a name because
+because all the good one have been already used ( or trademarked ).
+While people do not frivolously trademark name ( too costly ), there is
+lots of domain name that are taken and finally unused. So by acting like
+the others, we are simply causing trouble to others internet users. A
+web site about magic trick could perfectly use mageia.tld without
+causing trouble to us. A restaurant, anything could also do it. 
+
+So 
+
+10) by registering every possible variation, we are acting selfishly
+toward others netizens.
+
+
+So I do not really see what having lots of domain name would bring.
+Maybe I do not see because I am root on the main dns server, maybe
+because I already have my own domain name since so long time, I do not
+know. 
+
+The only answer I got was about security. But seriously, security of
+what ? Protecting from people doing phishing ? Bank already fail at
+this, and you think we can ? 
+
+Protecting from people misusing the name ? there is trademark laws and
+various others way ( not to mention that I do not see much to misuse at
+the moment ).
+
+And frankly, there is too much variation beside top level domain to be
+exhaustive to protect anything. 
+
+
+So for the 10 reasons I gave, and because I see almost no benefit, I
+think the association shouldn't manage so much domains. I cannot prevent
+people from renting them, but my 2 last point ( 9 and 10 ) still apply,
+IMHO.
+-- 
+Michael Scherer
+
+