[Mageia-dev] Logging + Provides/Requires (Re: [RFC] rsyslog vs journalctl)

Fri Feb 8 14:19:11 CET 2013

On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 02:07:52PM +0100, Anne Nicolas wrote:
+> Le 08/02/2013 13:14, Olav Vitters a écrit :
+> >On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 10:31:42AM +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+> >>  Q) Will we make persistent disk-based journals optional?
+> >>    Yes: Makes it harder to ask a consistent question to extract debug.
+> >>    No: Some people will moan.
+> >
+> >It is either persistent logging or logging in memory right? I assume
+> >people won't understand that it'll log anyways, just in memory. So no
+> >point in giving an option that does not do what people might expect.
+> >
+> 
+> Just one point about this. It was said during meeting that having
+> journalctl by default could break some other software like fail2ban.
+> This should be checked.
+
+Some software relies on /var/log/messages and as such syslog. Journal
+does not break anything. But if you then remove syslog, then result is
+that such things will break.
+
+Same for gnome-system-log. IMO we should fix that software which relies
+on /var/log/messages (before 3 and if found afterwards, provide
+updates). For unmaintained software, deal with it as any other.
+
+/var/log/messages usually contains this weeks log messages. It is pretty
+trivial to replace that with the output of journalctl.
+
+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
+