[Mageia-dev] [RFC] rsyslog vs journalctl

Thu Feb 7 14:30:46 CET 2013

'Twas brillig, and Guillaume Rousse at 07/02/13 12:20 did gyre and gimble:
+> Le 07/02/2013 12:40, AL13N a écrit :
+>>> 'Twas brillig, and David Walser at 06/02/13 18:28 did gyre and gimble:
+>> [...]
+>>> What I guess we could to to avoid putting rsyslog on the physical media
+>>> would be to put a versioned conflicts in the main systemd package with
+>>> rsyslog and syslog-ng. Thus the old packages should be removed when
+>>> upgrading (AIUI).
+>>
+>> not a really good idea imho, i have a server which uses rsyslog for
+>> network remote syslogging... so upgrading that would break this.
+> Indeed.
+> 
+> Just because journal is installed (no choice here) shouldn't prevent to
+> install a real syslog-daemon. I'd rather introduce another virtual
+> package, such as syslog-daemon-minimal (or anything else), and lower the
+> dependencies of basesystem to just require this last one.
+
+I'm not really sure what that gains... i.e. that's that's effectively
+what we have right now with the current provides of syslog-daemon via
+systemd itself.
+
+Arguably the semantics are wrong... e.g. it should really be called
+"system-logger" or something more generic.
+
+But as things stand you no longer *need* to install rsyslog et al - it's
+just an option. And as things stand right now, if rsyslog is included in
+the media it will be upgraded happily and keep on running.
+
+Col
+
+
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