[Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 final set of isos

Mon Sep 24 08:57:27 CEST 2012

Anne Nicolas a écrit :
+> Hi there
+>
+> So here is the discussion about what isos we should keep or have for
+> final release. We had several (many!) proposals on that topics and we
+> need to take some decisions.
+>
+> Here are some prerequisites I can see for what I can read in comments
+> and review about Mageia on the web.
+>
+> - provide a full open source software version
+> - provide CD iso(s) so that it can be quick to download (people having
+> low band-width or paying depending how much they use it)
+> - provide live version(s)
+> - decrease isos number. QA is just a hell on the set we had for Mageia 2
+> - provide localization as large as possible
+> - provide isos including major drivers including proprietary one to make
+> it easier to install and configure
+...
+> Please add all explanations to your proposal.
+>
+> Let say we take one week on this so until 26/09 then we will make a
+> final proposal
+>
+> Cheers
+>
+My suggestions :
+*Non-live isos*
+1 dual cd with proprietory firmware/drivers
+-- based on comments by Alien and others
+
+1 dvd 32-bit with proprietory firmware/drivers
+-- we could ask at the beginning something like
+"This disc can install proprietory firmware or drivers needed by your 
+hardware.  Do you want to :
+1) Install such software automatically,
+2) Ask for each such software, or
+3) Never install such software."
+
+That way users can accept or avoid such software as they wish.
+At the same time, users will never be stuck.  This will be particularly 
+useful for new users, especially those who found the dvd in a magazine.
+Also users preferring no non-free, including firmware or drivers, could 
+simply resinstall accepting certain firmware/drivers after finding that 
+their hardware doesn't work properly.
+-- It seems unlikely that magazines would care about the free/nonfree 
+issue, as long as the software is redistributable without cost.  And I'm 
+only talking about firmware/drivers where a reliable free version 
+doesn't exist.
+
+*Live isos*
+1 live (installable like current dvds) dvd 64-bit with 
+kde/gnome/lxde/xfce and all localizations, and the proprietory 
+firmware/drivers now found on live cds.
+-- variation of suggestion by Sander
+-- this replaces both the current 64-bit dvd + 8 live cds
+-- it seems much less likely that 64-bit users will have the download 
+bandwidth problems of many 32-bit users.  (If I'm not mistaken.)
+-- users with 64-bit machines could still use a 32-bit live cd if they wish.
+-- This should save a lot of problems testing, as many potential testers 
+don't have 64-bit machines available.
+
+8 live cds 32-bit; kde or gnome; 4 localisation groups
+-- users with 32-bit machines are more likely to have bandwidth 
+problems, or to not have dvd writers.
+
+This totals 11 isos, down from 19. (reduced by 8 live cds.)
+
+Note that I didn't include an iso without proprietory firmware/drivers, 
+as with appropriate warnings on those with, an iso without would be 
+redundant.  Just unnecessarily increasing the testing workload.
+
+Note also that it would be useful to have a file in the iso directory 
+listing the languages available on the various live cds.  (Lacking for 
+mga2, but did exist for mandriva.)
+
+A final point - to me it is really important to be able to upgrade an 
+existing installation, instead of forcing a clean install.  This allows 
+the user to more easily keep their current configuration, and in some 
+cases essential drivers/firmware not on the iso.  Referring to the dvds 
+and the dual cd, and not the live cds, which are not primarily for 
+installation.
+
+my 2 cents :)
+
+-- 
+André
+