[Mageia-dev] Are you sure? (no confirmation before proceeding to selected packages installation)

Fri May 4 17:38:26 CEST 2012

Le 4 mai 2012 17:19, "Wolfgang Bornath" <molch.b at googlemail.com> a écrit :
+>
+> 2012/5/4 Dimitrios Glentadakis <dglent at gmail.com>:
+> >
+> > Le 4 mai 2012 16:29, "Thomas Backlund" <tmb at mageia.org> a écrit :
+> >
+> >
+> >>
+> >> 04.05.2012 17:27, Thierry Vignaud skrev:
+> >> > On 4 May 2012 16:19, Felix Miata <mrmazda at earthlink.net> wrote:
+> >> >> Mageia's installer has the same problem that bothers me in Mandriva.
+> >> >> The
+> >> >> type install screen with KDE vs Gnome vs custom has no intermediate
+> >> >> step
+> >> >> prior to the start of selected packages installation. Does this
+bother
+> >> >> no
+> >> >> one else?
+> >> >
+> >> > Too late to report.
+> >> > When people will cease to do ala Gael tests aka just before the
+final?
+> >>
+> >> Well, only too late for mga2, but it can get on wishlist for mga3
+> >>
+> >> --
+> >> Thomas
+> >>
+> >
+> > Another case is when you install in the existing partitions and in the
+> > partitioning screen you choose the partitions, /, /home, etc, and you
+have
+> > checked in the checkbox a partition to be formatted.
+> >
+> > It seems very logical to me that in this step a confirmation is more
+than
+> > usefull.
+> > Before a 2-3 years there was a brainstorm in mandriva and i had
+proposed the
+> > usage of confirmation dialogues. I cannot find the link now, but the
+answers
+> > that i got was like 'you click on OK so you have to be sure', 'no
+needed,
+> > useless feature' etc.
+> >
+> > If there will be a brainstorm in mageia, i would like to try to propose
+it
+> > again.
+>
+> Do you think you will get a different result? Look at Microsoft.
+> People were so annoyed by all these "Are you sure" popups that
+> comedians started to refer to these popups in their standup sessions
+> ("Do you really want to use the brake pedal?"). AFAIR there hasn't
+> been such a popup at the situations you pointed to as long as
+> Mandrake/Mandriva existed. I haven't heard anybody complaining about
+> this (until today).
+> About the selection screens:
+>
+> For me the first selection screen (KDE - Gnome - Custom) serves the
+> new user who wants to get on with the installation without any
+> interactive stuff he would not know how to handle it. So the screen
+> presents 2 options which will get him a standard system with one
+> click. Everybody else is surely able to understand the word "Custom"
+> which opens the door to everything else. The next screen offers a
+> package selection which allows for installation of whole groups (or
+> non-installation). This same screen opens the door to the minimal
+> installation options (if you deselect all package groups). It also
+> shows the option "Individual package selection".
+>
+> To me this is a logical procedure (one step following the selection of
+> the previous step).
+>
+> Of course Mageia could put something like "Clicking OK will start the
+> installation" below the KDE and Gnome options or something similar.
+>
+> About the partitioning:
+>
+> What exactly do you miss there (you have seen the "expert" button?) ?
+>
+> IMHO there is nothing missing or at presented at the wrong state of
+> the installation procedure.
+>
+> --
+> wobo
+
+In the specific case i mentionned, there is a risc of loosing data, so i
+think that it is usefull to prevent. Why you are informed when you switch
+to expert mode in diskdrake?
+
+Twice i avoided to delete the /home partition. To prevent other users, in
+the greek translation i add the 'formatting (delete data)'
+
+For "us" there is no risc. Because we install a system many times. The
+scenario that i describe could happen if you do an installation for the
+first time or if you are not used to do it often.
+
+Personaly i dont care, it is very clear for me, but i remember my first
+time when i "felt" that a confirmation was missing.
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