[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2

Mon Mar 12 18:40:52 CET 2012

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:16:37PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+> On 12 March 2012 18:06, ovitters <buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org> wrote:
+> > ovitters <ovitters> 1:3.3.2-8.mga2:
+> > + Revision: 223037
+> > - ensure gnome-utils is installed (mga#4903)
+> 
+> 1) This is not what you've done.
+> What you've done is suggesting many GNOME packages that don't came
+> from gnome-utils
+> but come from their own SRPMS.
+
+gnome-utils was split up into various tarballs:
+http://live.gnome.org/GnomeUtils
+
+task-gnome contained only a "Obsoletes: gnome-utils". I replaced it with
+suggests for the splitted packages to ensure that gnome-screenshot (the
+bug) as well as the other replacements would be installed.
+
+Or do you mean that above webpage is wrong? Could be, didn't really
+check that thoroughly what packages replaced gnome-utils.
+
+> 2) Also as those are suggests, they'll never end on the install DVD,
+> thus defeating
+> " ensure gnome-utils is installed"
+
+I have asked many times about task-gnome and task-gnome-minimal and
+everyone has their own definition. I've asked various times if the
+"GNOME" option in the installer could please reflect "GNOME", and not
+some weird cut-down version of it called "task-gnome-minimal", but
+haven't gotten very far with that.
+
+I don't want to step on toes and just ignore the "task-gnome-minimal" vs
+"task-gnome", etc (I still don't get why we have -minimal; I also don't
+see why we have task-gnome though.. seems that not even Nautilus would
+be installed), so I added Suggests instead.
+
+I don't really see any difference between either having the
+gnome-screenshot as a Suggests in task-gnome (which the installer
+doesn't install, it looks at task-gnome-minimal) or as Suggests in
+task-gnome-minimal (which won't end up on the DVD apparently).
+If task-gnome-minimal is "not to be touched" and task-gnome is not
+installed by the installer.. what am I to do to fix bugs? Suggests seems
+like the only option. Furthermore, I've also added a gnome-screenshot
+Suggests to gnome-shell.
+
+IMO mga#4903 was an avoidable bug. As bugs are discovered on resulting
+dependency problems, I want to fix every case. To me it seems the wrong
+way to deal with this, but I rather raise "-minimal" strangeness after
+Mageia 2 release so I can point at the resulting bugs.
+
+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
+