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[Mageia-dev] Remove upgrade functionnality in installer

+ Anne nicolas + ennael at mageia.org +
+ Mon Jun 25 09:24:30 CEST 2012 +

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> But using a DVD to upgrade an already installed system is a good way to get
+> around the fact that many packages, including nonfree firmware, are missing
+> from the DVD.
+> If one does a clean install, one has to try to find a lot of missing
+> packages, because they are no longer installed.  This impacts considerably
+> the usability of the system.  (Considering what the user had installed.)
+> All one has to do after the upgrade install, is reboot and do a normal
+> upgrade with rpmdrake (selecting "all updates" and "all packages"), and
+> almost everything works well.
+> (For me upgrade to mga1 worked perfectly.  The last 2 upgrades with mdv had
+> some problems, due to other factors.  A clean install has always caused me a
+> lot of problems.)
+> With a clean install, it can be problematic to find all the missing
+> packages, as well as missing firmware.
+
+I'm not saying we remove all upgrade ways as we still have mgaapplet.
+We experienced *a lot* of problem during QA tests using DVD to
+upgrade.  Really I don'"t understand your point...
+
+>
+> Note that I don't use mgaapplet after an upgrade install, since it doesn't
+> give me all the information I want, to help me decide if I should drop some
+> packages that were installed.
+
+This is not the role of this tool.
+
+> It may be that using mgaapplet after an upgrade install is the weak link in
+> the chain.
+> And certainly urpmi is not a convenient tool at this point.  (Although I use
+> it a lot at other times.)
+
+So because mgaapplet is buggy for upgrades, we should just let it down
+and use DVD ?
+
+>
+> Note also that with upgrade install, even firmware that is missing from the
+> release (and not only the DVD) remains installed.  So there are cases where
+> an upgrade install necessarily produces a better functioning system.
+>
+> So in sum, in my view, removing upgrade install for DVDs would be an
+> important regression.
+> But maybe we should suggest rebooting and using rpmdrake after such an
+> install.
+
+This is non sense... Either the upgrade tool does its job properly or
+not... How can we say Mageia is easy when you propose such process?
+
+>
+> Regards :)
+>
+> --
+> André
+>
+
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+-- 
+Anne
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