[Mageia-dev] GNOME plans

Tue Jun 5 17:04:21 CEST 2012

'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 04/06/12 16:51 did gyre and gimble:
+> 2012/6/4 Olav Vitters <olav at vitters.nl>:
+>> > On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 09:13:53PM +0800, Kira wrote:
+>>> >> Well, I think the main point of arguing about this issue is that most
+>>> >> people is mostly used to other input method and they don't care about
+>>> >> iBus...
+>>> >>
+>>> >> Still 2 points to be answered especially for Mageia here:
+>>> >>
+>>> >> 1. In MCC, we can set up the input method in localedrake, and this
+>>> >> setting would be system-wide except GNOME about 3.6+. This should be
+>>> >> mentioned, because it would destroy the unified user experience.
+>> >
+>> > As said, I don't code. And unified experience I care for GNOME, that it
+>> > works consistently. I care about freedesktop.org standards. I don't care
+>> > for differences between distributions. E.g. MCC is great, but I prefer
+>> > if it didn't exist. MCC is only Mageia/Mandriva, another distro has
+>> > other things, etc.
+>> > I prefer something in gnome-control-center.
+> And here we have the main point, the difference between Gnome and
+> everybody else.
+> 
+> Gnome is a mere desktop environment, nothing more and nothing less. Period.
+
+You've maybe not been following the Gnome OS stuff then? I have and it's
+very interesting. As you know I've been a KDE developer for many years,
+but I much prefer the Gnome approach to lower level things. People
+involved in the Gnome project are very supportive to drive forward the
+core underlying plumbing layers rather than just build abstraction
+layers on top to rationalise the underlying insanity. I certainly have
+much more affinity to this approach to engineering (as you can likely
+tell when I share my opinions on stuff) than the KDE approach which does
+quite often paper over the cracks rather than solve the underlying problems.
+
+So I don't disagree with you with regards to how we, as a distro, should
+treat Gnome, but do keep in mind that "Gnome OS" as a whole is something
+we will all benefit from - this covers everything from how early boot
+should deal with user interaction and encryption passwords etc (i.e.
+plymouth) right up to GDM and X11 initialisation (including how to
+handle things when it fails) and thus the desktop environment "Gnome"
+will come with certain requirements for the underlying system on which
+it runs. In most (if not all) cases, these requirements will be for the
+general good anyway.
+
+Col
+
+
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+
+Colin Guthrie
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