[Mageia-dev] About dm

Sat Feb 18 13:31:35 CET 2012

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 03:50:45PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+> The Gnome base is more than gnome-shell but less than Gnome in total.
+> Example: Gnome config editor belongs to the basic Gnome, eog is a
+> Gnome application. Same with KDE: kdm and the setup configuration are
+> related to the environment, kmail is a KDE application.
+
+GNOME is not the same as KDE.
+
+Eye of GNOME is part of GNOME Core (things which should be installed
+together):
+  http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/core/3.3/3.3.5/sources/
+As it is part of Core, anything in GNOME is ok to assume that it is
+installed.
+
+
+There is a separate "apps" section listed at:
+  http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/apps/3.3/3.3.5/sources/
+These consist of applications which closely follow GNOME. Meaning:
+they're QA tested, etc.
+
+
+Aside from the "apps" section, there are loads of other modules.
+Everything in total is at:
+  http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/
+You see e.g. xchat-gnome. Something in /sources/, but not in "Core", nor
+in "Apps". It doesn't follow the GNOME release schedule, translation
+freezes, etc.
+
+
+Regarding eog:
+Anything wanting to call eog within GNOME should of course use
+freedesktop.org specifications. So if you've installed something other
+than eog, it should still work. Still, from upstream POV it is a
+distribution bug if there wasn't any image viewer installed.
+
+In practice, not installing everything by default should be more or less
+ok. But that's not how things are released or assumed to be. It it just
+by using freedesktop.org specifications that things still work.
+
+But things still working doesn't mean that eog is not assumed to be
+installed.
+
+Anyway, I'm ok with discussing after Mageia 2 as suggested in another
+email. I have no idea if "Core" + dependencies would fit on a cd anyway
+(don't believe it would) + I can mention on
+http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/ that Mageia 2 users should install
+"task-gnome" to get the full experience.
+
+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
+