[Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA

Wed Mar 9 01:31:05 CET 2011

2011/3/9 Ahmad Samir <ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com>:
+> 2011/3/9 Raphaël Jadot <ashledombos at hodo.fr>:
+>> 2011/3/8 Balcaen John <balcaen.john at gmail.com>:
+>>> Le Tuesday 08 March 2011 18:11:11, Per Øyvind Karlsen a écrit :
+>>> [...]
+>>>> Tsktsk, my post probably ends up being labelled as flamebait, troll, too
+>>>> long and boring, biased and what not..
+>>> [...]
+>>> This list is not write only...
+>>> If you've got personnal problem with dmorgan just send him a personal email i
+>>> don't care, but i guess that ennael wrote 3 hours before this last mail from
+>>> you that mageia seems to have choose rpm.org so maybe we can really close this
+>>> subject/thread for now instead of talking again & again about the fantastic
+>>> rpm(5).org feature/upstream/it's a revolution/another apple commercial
+>>> here/etc etc.
+>>> It's just boring...
+>>>
+>>
+>> mm ?
+>> I have not the feeling that it was the subject... i read again... ok
+>> he seems to have a great +1 to rpm5, but i did not see that he wanted
+>> insisted or moan in order we use rpm5...
+>> The mails are hard to read, and long, and very technicals,  but what
+>> catched my eyes is some things like
+>> "level of compatibility" between Mageia & rpm5 is far greater than any
+>> other (with
+>> other rpm5 based distros being more compatible with Mageia than Mageia
+>> is with non-rpm5 based distros as well"
+>> So it doesn't mean we have to move to rpm5 for being compatible with
+>> rpm5, so where is the problem ?
+>>
+>> I just wonder, why having discussions about technical things like
+>> adults is impossible ? are rpm.org and rpm5 religions ?
+>>
+>> So if Per Oyvind offers help, unless there are hidden things i do not
+>> understand, and if he can improve rpm.org or compatibility stuff or
+>> whatever, why nobody says "ok, why not, tell us, maybe you could help,
+>> maybe not" Did not find it (at least in this ML)
+>>
+>> Seems it's not the first time, in this mail
+>> https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/20110109/002024.html
+>> he told  "(if interested, I could help assist you on writing something
+>> equivalent for compatibility wrapping similar to what I did in the
+>> past with rpm4compat.h & rpm46compat.h to make ie. URPM able to use
+>> rpm 4.4 & 4.6 api with rpm5, let's say rpm5compat.h or something).
+>>
+>> Whatever you end up doing, don't be afraid of asking or trying to
+>> communicate on, the mutual benefits of collaboration are rather
+>> obvious. <;o)
+>> If not, sorry for imposing."
+>>
+>> This mail had no answer, so what, is this guy a kind of antichrist of
+>> rpm , talking with sugar words and trying to backstab you ?
+>>
+>> And at least, If the question are asked over and over, why is there so
+>> few things in archives about it ? Sure every one knows mageia will not
+>> hurry to go to rpm5 tomorow, and so what ? If some are bored about
+>> some related questions, why not opening a FAQ that explain it, or that
+>> just point to the related archive/topic (which could be this one) ?
+>>
+>> Sorry but I hate people bashing when i don't understand it. So if
+>> there are personal anger, try to get over, or explain and communicate
+>> better.
+>>
+>>
+>>
+>> RJ
+>>
+>
+> Hi,
+>
+> How many times is Mageia going to say "thanks, but no thanks"? how
+Thanks, but no thanks to what exactly..?
+I don't really think you'll find many posts supporting much evidence for
+me really trying to push much more usually than actual advice, suggestions,
+answers to questions and offers to help and interest in discuss details
+on this list.
+> many more bug reports/breakage does cooker have to suffer to make it
+> clear that Mageia doesn't want the same headache, in the near future
+> at all?
+Your lack of attention span is intriguing, even after Raphaël finds
+and tries handfeed you the same things I've reiterated over and
+over, you're still not able to grasp that I am *not* pushing any rpm5,
+magic beans or dead babies on you and makes up this to be the
+actual issue.
+
+>
+> Personally I don't want to see mageia-dev ML have the same
+> rpm5-main-water-pipe explode in it like what happened in cooker@,
+> suddenly rpm5 is the answer to everything, from Jeff Johnson's point
+> of view, well, good for you. :)
+Yeah, clueless and as little technical posts as possible are much more
+preferred, the contributions by posts such as this one from you gives a
+much nicer and healthy environment for everyone to be happy with.
+It's called progress! :|
+
+>
+> You wanna know why people can't communicate better? see how long
+> proyvind's emails usually are. You didn't get bored? :)
+I don't think you'll find many other posts to mageia lists by me that's
+very lengthy at all previously otherwise. And with the given length,
+it works well
+at exploiting the short attention span and lack of interest from many,
+weeding out ignorant dumbshit and FUD from people I have no interest
+in any input from to begin with..
+If too technical and of no interest to you, then simply don't read it and
+we're both happy. If getting bored  becomes a problem, go play on the
+highway, I didn't have much interest in providing you with entertainment
+to begin with..
+
+You could've shown the curtousy of coming of as at least trying to pretend
+not to come of as too obvious of a troll..
+
+--
+Regards,
+Per Øyvind
+