[Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA

Wed Mar 9 00:40:51 CET 2011

2011/3/9 Raphaël Jadot <ashledombos at hodo.fr>:
+> 2011/3/8 Balcaen John <balcaen.john at gmail.com>:
+>> Le Tuesday 08 March 2011 18:11:11, Per Øyvind Karlsen a écrit :
+>> [...]
+>>> Tsktsk, my post probably ends up being labelled as flamebait, troll, too
+>>> long and boring, biased and what not..
+>> [...]
+>> This list is not write only...
+>> If you've got personnal problem with dmorgan just send him a personal email i
+>> don't care, but i guess that ennael wrote 3 hours before this last mail from
+>> you that mageia seems to have choose rpm.org so maybe we can really close this
+>> subject/thread for now instead of talking again & again about the fantastic
+>> rpm(5).org feature/upstream/it's a revolution/another apple commercial
+>> here/etc etc.
+>> It's just boring...
+>>
+>
+> mm ?
+> I have not the feeling that it was the subject... i read again... ok
+> he seems to have a great +1 to rpm5, but i did not see that he wanted
+> insisted or moan in order we use rpm5...
+> The mails are hard to read, and long, and very technicals,  but what
+> catched my eyes is some things like
+> "level of compatibility" between Mageia & rpm5 is far greater than any
+> other (with
+> other rpm5 based distros being more compatible with Mageia than Mageia
+> is with non-rpm5 based distros as well"
+> So it doesn't mean we have to move to rpm5 for being compatible with
+> rpm5, so where is the problem ?
+>
+> I just wonder, why having discussions about technical things like
+> adults is impossible ? are rpm.org and rpm5 religions ?
+>
+> So if Per Oyvind offers help, unless there are hidden things i do not
+> understand, and if he can improve rpm.org or compatibility stuff or
+> whatever, why nobody says "ok, why not, tell us, maybe you could help,
+> maybe not" Did not find it (at least in this ML)
+>
+> Seems it's not the first time, in this mail
+> https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/20110109/002024.html
+> he told  "(if interested, I could help assist you on writing something
+> equivalent for compatibility wrapping similar to what I did in the
+> past with rpm4compat.h & rpm46compat.h to make ie. URPM able to use
+> rpm 4.4 & 4.6 api with rpm5, let's say rpm5compat.h or something).
+>
+> Whatever you end up doing, don't be afraid of asking or trying to
+> communicate on, the mutual benefits of collaboration are rather
+> obvious. <;o)
+> If not, sorry for imposing."
+>
+> This mail had no answer, so what, is this guy a kind of antichrist of
+> rpm , talking with sugar words and trying to backstab you ?
+>
+> And at least, If the question are asked over and over, why is there so
+> few things in archives about it ? Sure every one knows mageia will not
+> hurry to go to rpm5 tomorow, and so what ? If some are bored about
+> some related questions, why not opening a FAQ that explain it, or that
+> just point to the related archive/topic (which could be this one) ?
+>
+> Sorry but I hate people bashing when i don't understand it. So if
+> there are personal anger, try to get over, or explain and communicate
+> better.
+>
+>
+>
+> RJ
+>
+
+Hi,
+
+How many times is Mageia going to say "thanks, but no thanks"? how
+many more bug reports/breakage does cooker have to suffer to make it
+clear that Mageia doesn't want the same headache, in the near future
+at all?
+
+Personally I don't want to see mageia-dev ML have the same
+rpm5-main-water-pipe explode in it like what happened in cooker@,
+suddenly rpm5 is the answer to everything, from Jeff Johnson's point
+of view, well, good for you. :)
+
+You wanna know why people can't communicate better? see how long
+proyvind's emails usually are. You didn't get bored? :)
+
+-- 
+Ahmad Samir
+