[Mageia-dev] kernel 3.0 is a big mistake in cauldron

Sat Jul 16 15:36:35 CEST 2011

On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 09:11, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
+<beranger5ca at yahoo.ca>wrote:
+
+> To end this flamewar: when I decide to use a
+> cauldron/cooker/rawhide/unstable system, I expect I will need to fix some
+> breakages, but at least
+> (1) let me have a proper choice of kernels in GRUB, including the previous
+> one;
+> (2) don't force UNRELEASED kernels on me!
+>
+
+This thread was certainly amused and very fruitful for at least my fortunes
+file, but may I suggest you to start using some other distribution or
+operating system which better satisfies your needs, and leave us, poor
+mortals, with Mandriva/Mageia stable/cooker/cauldron gnu/linux solutions -
+which work the way we love? :)
+
+They are imperfect, they have unreleased versions all the time, they have
+breakages, upgrades, updates, flaws, problems, design issues, and so on -
+but this is fine for us!
+
+
+> Breaking a package is one thing, breaking the kernel is a totally different
+> one.
+>
+
+And breaking a window is totally different as well, I agree :(. As well as
+breaking a leg for example, and breaking habits. And let us not forget that
+it is completely and if I might say, even oppository - to breaking a home
+run (all via http://www.thefreedictionary.com/break)!
+
+
+> And no, I won't investigate anything, I'll not file any report on what it's
+> not working with this kernel and my hardware.
+>
+
+Yep, I have already realized this, but thanks to confirming nonetheless :).
+
+
+> Regressions in kernels are the thing I hate the most in this world.
+
+
+Yes, this is certainly one of the cruelest and merciless things in the
+world, I must agree.. :(
+
+
+> I've experienced kernel regressions in the past every 6 months with each
+> and every Ubuntu release -- and those were kernels supposed to be tested
+> well-enough.
+>
+
+Apparently they weren't. Let me apologize on behalf of Ubuntu developers and
+Linus Torvalds himself for not being proactive enough to make kernels work
+on your hardware, I believe that they will be really ashamed of themselves
+at the moment they'll read this. Sorry :(.
+
+
+> What I like in Linux is never the kernel.
+
+
+This seems to be apparently contradictory to some other phrases, but I have
+to agree - I like never kernel, for example, the 3.0 seems to be great (for
+me!)
+
+
+> Never ever.
+
+
+World is soooo busy those days...
+
+
+> It's monolithic, impossible to be properly tested, and managed by a stupid
+> fat arrogant guy called Linus.
+
+
+Yep, I agree, he will be even more ashamed of himself after reading this...
+:(
+
+The only kernels I loved were 1.2.13 and1.3.18.
+
+
+2.2.16 was pretty cool, and 2.4.1 with reiserfs was nice too, but yes, those
+new shiny trending things - even being a bit cool - are still among the most
+hated things, this is so very true :(. I have to confess that they must
+learn a thing or two from DOS - almost 30 years without a remote hole in
+default install, and working as stable and fast as possible since their
+first release!
+
+
+> After that, the kernel was just a nuisance -- like the government, the
+> taxes, the Microsoft tax, etc.
+>
+
+Yep, I agree with you, the governments, taxes, Microsoft and its tax are
+almost as bad as kernel regressions (mentioned above), but they are still
+are a far cry from those!
+
+But once again, let me apologize for the Linux community, Free Software
+developers, Linus Torvalds himself and - of course - mr. Richard Matthew
+Stallman for not being proactive enough in their efforts to make GNU/Linux
+working on your computer in most flawless and perfect way. I believe they
+feel really achamed now and as a sign of my support for their cause, and due
+to my involvement in the open source community, I will mourn those tragic
+events today with a minute of silence on this mailing list (starting now).
+
+-- 
+Eugeni Dodonov
+http://eugeni.dodonov.net/
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