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[Mageia-dev] kernel 3.0 is a big mistake in cauldron

+ Angelo Naselli + anaselli at linux.it +
+ Sat Jul 16 15:03:47 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
> "THE ONE AND ONLY THING properly designed in Windows is that you can use
+> (almost) ANY version of ANY application w/o breaking the system and w/o
+> upgrading the system!"
+*Almost* as you said. Also windows changed and sometimes changes
+between a sp to another, sometimes (often) some applications
+just stop working.
+And yes you can take the old one. But it's not always easy.
+It depends on the good will of developers, not all the not open source
+projects leave old packages to download...
+And yes, you've probably been right,  it's *very* *easy* to downgrade a 
+W. service pack...
+
+> In all the Linux distros, once the official repos have upgraded an
+> application, you're normally supposed to use it, because downgrading is:
+> (1) difficult;
+For those who do not want to learn yes. For those who are just users yes.
+The first kind cannot complain, the second one yes. But some distros
+add some package that allows to install new programs locally
+(one of those was called autopackage, now forked... i tested once, 
+worked but *I* did not need such a feature).
+> (2) discouraged.
+Why? locally you can always do what you want. I remember a friend that
+installed a RH, but after that he installed all the programs he needs
+by using configure make make install... it was not a red hat anymore
+but it started like it was. He had what he needed and worked how he liked to.
+
+> Because, postulate 2, "whereas different versions of system DLLs can
+> coexist in a given Windows release, this is typically impossible in Linux,
+> BY DESIGN" (and this is not about GTK+1 coexisting with GTK+2, nor about
+> KDE3 compatibility libs in KDE4, and also not about installing in /opt or
+> other tricks).
+different dlls can lay on the system only if the are different. e.g name version
+etc, the same it's for .so files. So the problem is not on the system but on
+the developers, if they break abi and don't change the so version according
+and the packager does not see that, then yes  they can't co-exists.
+ 
+> Breaking a package is one thing, breaking the kernel is a totally different
+> one.
+Why don't you ask that to those people that run to buy windows vista after
+an update of a famous anti-virus in XP, because they cannot use their system 
+any more?
+ 
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+
+-- 
+	Angelo
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