[Mageia-dev] proposal regarding (packager) mentoring program coordinator

Sat Jul 2 03:02:24 CEST 2011

Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
+> Le samedi 2 juillet 2011 01:07:00, Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
+>> Le vendredi 1 juillet 2011 22:49:29, andre999 a écrit :
+>>> nicolas vigier a écrit :
+>>>> On Fri, 01 Jul 2011, andre999 wrote:
+[...]
+>>>>> Would something like coord at pmentoring.mageia.org be Ok ?
+>>>>
+>>>> No, foo at group.mageia.org with foo replaced by the group name.
+>>>>
+>>>>> Presumably I would manage the group, which would include at least
+>>>>> magnus + Daniel. So who should I talk to about setting it up ?
+>>>>> Would I be able to add new persons myself, or would I have to request
+>>>>> it ?
+>>>>
+>>>> What would be the use of this group and alias ?
+>>>> Shouldn't most discussions be public, so on a mailing list ?
+>>>
+>>> This would be for potential packager apprentices or others to easily
+>>> contact all members the mentoring coordinator team.
+>>> So one of us can respond quickly, mostly to update our packages_mentoring
+>>> wiki page.  (Which will be ready in the next few days.)
+>>> We could also use it to discuss among ourselves, which we now do by
+>>> private email. So it wouldn't be of general interest.  We wouldn't want
+>>> those outside our group responding to messages received, like in a
+>>> public mailing list.
+>>> (The group might include a few outside our team.)
+>>> (It could include mentors, but they will see useful info on our wiki
+>>> page.) A restricted-access mailing list should work.
+>>
+>> I don't think there's a need for restricted access, and it would be
+>> opposite to the way we try to do everything in the open.
+>>
+>> What you need is
+>> 1) a way to be contacted directly by those who need (apprentices)
+>> 2) a way to discuss within members of the team, but maybe other people too
+>> if some want to join the discussion
+>>
+>> For 1), I think your @mageia.org address once you will get one is
+>> sufficient. It's only one means of communication among others (MLs,
+>> forums, wiki), so I don't think a group is necessarily needed for that.
+>> You can still forward requests you can't handle yourself.
+>
+> That being said, I have nothing against the use of a group for that, but only
+> as a contact e-mail, not for discussion, or only for sensitive discussion
+> about specific persons.
+
+That was exactly the purpose -- one contact point !
+(Which we can put in various documentation, etc.)
+That way if I'm not available -- on holidays, sick or whatever, I could alert 
+the others to ensure a fast response.  And they could always help out if they 
+wanted.
+And if someone takes my place, it would be a transparent changeover.
+
+Sensitive discussion could happen with the group, but we could use direct 
+contact as well.
+(We've been doing a bit in private setting up, but I see that as mostly 
+temporary.  Other than sensitive issues, I would see it as mostly coordination 
+among ourselves.)
+
+Otherwise I would prefer everything in the open.
+(And I'm sure the others would agree.)
+
+>> For 2), I don't know what is better :
+>> - use an existing mailing list
+>> - create a new one
+
+mageia-dev seems good.  We can just try to limit it to a few threads at a time.
+
+>> I think you must try to use direct e-mail among you only when there's a
+>> good reason to avoid public discussion. Saying that it's not of general
+>> interest is not a good enough reason, I think. Do you have other reasons
+>> for wanting a private mailing list ?
+
+Agree totally.  No need.
+
+So in summary, it seems that we should have a group for contacts.
+(Say pmentoring-coord at group.mageia.org ?)
+And no need to add a mailing list.
+
+>> Best regards
+>>
+>> Samuel Verschelde
+>
+
+Regards :)
+-- 
+André
+