[Mageia-dev] boot-nonfree.iso ?

Fri Dec 30 13:27:39 CET 2011

2011/12/30 Thomas Backlund <tmb at mageia.org>:
+> 30.12.2011 02:25, David Walser skrev:
+>>
+>> Thomas Backlund wrote:
+>>>
+>>> 29.12.2011 22:39, David Walser skrev:
+>>>>
+>>>> David Walser wrote:
+>>>>>
+>>>>> Thomas Backlund wrote:
+>>>>>>
+>>>>>> Now this does not fix the radeon-firmware issue, as this is only to
+>>>>>> get installer running on all hw. (I probably will remove
+>>>>>> radeon-firmware
+>>>>>> again as it's not needed/used by the installer)
+>>>>>>
+>>>>>> For the radeon-firmware (and other nonfree firmware) issue, we still
+>>>>>> need to fix stage2 installer.
+>>>>>
+>>>>>
+>>>>> Do you have a reference for this issue?
+>>>>
+>>>>
+>>>> Is it https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1471 or something else?
+>>>>
+>>>
+>>> Yes, it's exactly that.
+>>>
+>>> the free DVD does not contain anything from nonfree, so radeon fails to
+>>> load until the firmware gets installed.
+>>>
+>>> So we are trying to solve this issue cleanly.
+>>> One thing I'm working on is a separate firmware iso to burn (or put
+>>> contents on usb stick) to satisfy this need.
+>>>
+>>> The other option for radeon users is to install using livecds.
+>>
+>>
+>> I want to make sure I understand you correctly, as I'm planning to upgrade
+>> a MDV 2010.2 machine with a Radeon HD 4650 to Mageia 1 tomorrow.
+>>
+>> The referenced bug makes it sound like the installer works fine, but since
+>> it doesn't have access to the nonfree firmware, the initrds it
+>> generates in the bootloader installation part doesn't contain them, so
+>> booting the installed system is problematic if you don't do
+>> radeon.modeset=0.
+>
+>
+>
+> This is correct.
+>
+> The other option on Mageia 1 is to do a online upgrade, and it will pull the
+> needed firmwares from nonfree during install.
+>
+>
+>>
+>> Listening to you in this thread I'm getting worried DrakX itself may not
+>> work without access to the firmware.  Did I misread you?
+>>
+>
+> DrakX/installer will work as it does not rely on hw specific drivers, as it
+> runs in framebuffer mode.
+>
+> The point of fixing stage2 is that when installer detects hw that needs
+> firmware from nonfree, it should notify the user and ask if he/she wants
+> to install it, either from an additional media or from online repos.
+>
+> The problem with upcoming radeon hw, is that it wont work with
+> radeon.modeset=0 as the only supported mode is KMS.
+>
+> I'm also looking into have the radeon driver refuse to load if it does
+> not find its firmware, and maybe instead load vesa. But no ETA on that part.
+
+And yet another important issue is wifi firmware to enable
+notebook/netbook owners to install from dvd + extra cd/stick.
+
+-- 
+wobo
+