[Mageia-dev] ANN: X11 now starts on tty1

Sat Dec 17 11:58:31 CET 2011

2011/12/17 Florian Hubold <doktor5000 at arcor.de>:
+> Am 17.12.2011 11:26, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
+>> 2011/12/17 Sander Lepik <sander.lepik at eesti.ee>:
+>>> 17.12.2011 12:10, Wolfgang Bornath kirjutas:
+>>>> I really beg to think the whole matter over again, at least until it is
+>>>> mature enough to be implemented in cauldron for practical test.
+>>> People will get used to it rather fast.
+>> May be yes, may be no. I'm thinking about those computer adepts who
+>> have spent 10-15 years with the Ctrl-Alt-F1 combo, is it so easy to
+>> change a grown habit which is like the "Red = Stop!" paradigma? I'm
+>> thinking also about all those who spend time with different distros,
+>> having to change one of the most common procedures just for Mageia.
+>> I'm thinking of rather new Linuxers who follow advice in documentation
+>> - ALL docs on the net talk about Ctrl-Alt-F1, all generic books like
+>> Linux in a Nutshell or others talk about Ctrl-Alt-F1.
+>>
+>> So, my question is whether a second's flickering during startup really
+>> justifies such a strong change?
+>>
+> Well, maybe you haven't heard of the related problems yet:
+> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#Xserver_crashes
+
+Of course I read that part of the Errata but did not relate it to the
+matter of this thread - how could I as a non-developer? The relation
+has not been mentioned in the errata.
+
+As I wrote in my first mail I am not really against this change if
+there is a reason. There seems to be a reason (as you say), so it's
+ok. But still I think all open questions (especially the one about the
+situation of a crashing or failing x server) need to be addressed
+before the change is made in cauldron to be tested by a broader
+userbase. And I still think it needs to be announced all over the
+place when the change will be implemented.
+
+About the question how hard it is to press another key: not hard. But
+the Ctrl-Alt-F1 has been a standard in ALL distributions and ALL
+documentations (even in the generic books about "Learning Linux"), a
+standard like the SAA menue standard ("File" on the left, "Help" on
+the right) or the "F1 opens Help" standard. Therefore changing this is
+a bit more than usual changes between versions.
+
+-- 
+wobo
+