[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default.

Tue Aug 23 19:49:36 CEST 2011

Op dinsdag 23 augustus 2011 10:47:18 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 22/08/11 22:39 did gyre and gimble:
+> > imho, the tools that are now available don't really work well together,
+> > ie: if you use multiple of those tools, likely they don't show correct
+> > status, etc...
+> 
+> So combining home-grown solutions with those integrated into the DEs
+> (both GNOME and KDE are integrating with NM in a more complete way these
+> days) is a way to solve this problem? I don't think so personally. I
+> think we should very much embrace what the common consensus on other
+> distros is and stop living in a little bubble. I appreciate the quality
+> of the tools developed in the past but without someone really pushing
+> them they are just going to stagnate. It's a real shame as these tools
+> were best of bread - really easy to use and looked good, but this has
+> changed now. NM is much nicer to use these days and has been properly
+> integrated into the DEs.
+
+well, imho, the last time i tried NM it didn't work and net_applet did.
+
+> > personally, i've used net_applet always and i would like to keep this.
+> 
+> Sure, if it's patched to integrate into GNOME shell as nicely as NM then
+> I'd say it's an option. If it provides the same DBus interfaces that NM
+> does (or will) support such that applications can tell what type of
+> connection you are on (i.e. to enable features such as not downloading
+> package updates on your expensive, metered 3G connection) then it's
+> certainly possible to continue to support an alternative to NM. Who is
+> actually going to do that work tho'? Considering the bug about breaking
+> your wifi configuration (using WEP rather than the configured WPA2) has
+> not been fixed[1] since before mga1 was out, I'm not confident that
+> anyone is even looking into the actual bugs here let alone adding new
+> features. I feel we have to be some what practical about resources here
+> and if we are going to work on features do it in a way that benefits the
+> wider community - i.e. by contributing to NM, not just playing catch up.
+
+i don't care about gnome shell or gnome 3 or whichever. for me net_applet is 
+the best one yet and i don't have this WPA2 bug that you seem to speak of.
+
+also, i need the openvpn functionalities of the net_applet. as long as NM 
+doesn't provide everything and is welltested, i'm not sure it should replace 
+something that's been very long working like the net_applet.
+
+allthough i'm sure net_applet could be improved, sure.
+
+personally i'd like an applet that shows up multiple times for each connection 
+one with a different icon, so it's nicely visible and you can shut down 
+whichever you want.
+
+> Col
+> 
+> 1. https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1263 I had to manually edit
+> wpa_supplicant.conf several times when at the Desktop Summit and WLAN
+> hopping after using the GUI - it's not exactly a shining example of good
+> integration.
+
+yes, but i'm using several different WPA2 connections, and i configured them 
+once and now if i'm at that particular location, it works... 
+