[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default.

Tue Aug 23 10:47:18 CEST 2011

'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 22/08/11 22:39 did gyre and gimble:
+> imho, the tools that are now available don't really work well together, ie: if 
+> you use multiple of those tools, likely they don't show correct status, etc...
+
+So combining home-grown solutions with those integrated into the DEs
+(both GNOME and KDE are integrating with NM in a more complete way these
+days) is a way to solve this problem? I don't think so personally. I
+think we should very much embrace what the common consensus on other
+distros is and stop living in a little bubble. I appreciate the quality
+of the tools developed in the past but without someone really pushing
+them they are just going to stagnate. It's a real shame as these tools
+were best of bread - really easy to use and looked good, but this has
+changed now. NM is much nicer to use these days and has been properly
+integrated into the DEs.
+
+> personally, i've used net_applet always and i would like to keep this.
+
+Sure, if it's patched to integrate into GNOME shell as nicely as NM then
+I'd say it's an option. If it provides the same DBus interfaces that NM
+does (or will) support such that applications can tell what type of
+connection you are on (i.e. to enable features such as not downloading
+package updates on your expensive, metered 3G connection) then it's
+certainly possible to continue to support an alternative to NM. Who is
+actually going to do that work tho'? Considering the bug about breaking
+your wifi configuration (using WEP rather than the configured WPA2) has
+not been fixed[1] since before mga1 was out, I'm not confident that
+anyone is even looking into the actual bugs here let alone adding new
+features. I feel we have to be some what practical about resources here
+and if we are going to work on features do it in a way that benefits the
+wider community - i.e. by contributing to NM, not just playing catch up.
+
+
+
+Col
+
+1. https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1263 I had to manually edit
+wpa_supplicant.conf several times when at the Desktop Summit and WLAN
+hopping after using the GUI - it's not exactly a shining example of good
+integration.
+
+
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+
+Colin Guthrie
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