[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default.

Tue Aug 23 16:54:31 CEST 2011

Le mardi 23 août 2011 à 11:01 +0100, Colin Guthrie a écrit :
+> 'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 23/08/11 10:10 did gyre and gimble:
+> > Le mardi 23 août 2011 à 09:30 +0100, Colin Guthrie a écrit :
+> >> 'Twas brillig, and Michael scherer at 22/08/11 13:14 did gyre and gimble:
+> >>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 08:44:01AM -0300, Balcaen John wrote:
+> >>>> Le Monday 22 August 2011 12:57:23 Guillaume Rousse a écrit :
+> >>>>> On 22/08/2011 11:57, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+> >>>>>> I also have it on good authority that many of the features lacking
+> >>>>>> in NetworkManager (such as bridging configuration) will be
+> >>>>>> available in the not too distant future and many other more
+> >>>>>> advanced networking features such as fast-start DHCP,
+> >>>>>> per-interface DNS, 4-8's DNS fallback and several other nice
+> >>>>>> features will ultimately be possible too.
+> >>>>> While I don't care about configuration wizards, I do about
+> >>>>> initscripts. How are you supposed to configure a server in some
+> >>>>> automated manner without plain-old configuration files ?
+> >>>> If i'm not wrong you can still drop plain text files in 
+> >>>> /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
+> >>>
+> >>> Provided you want to do nothing fancy like bridge, vlan and 
+> >>> others stuff that are used by sysadmins. 
+> >>
+> >> As I said in my initial email, but was not clear. All of these things
+> >> will be supported in a much nicer way in the near future.
+> > 
+> > But so far, this is not supported. And since we have said we do not
+> > remove non systemd from Mageia 2
+> > ( https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006701.html ) ,
+> > I think we cannot take systemd for granted before mageia 3. 
+> 
+> Yup, that's why I mentioned mageia 3 in my initial mail.
+
+Oups, I misread :/
+
+Then my answer is "we didn't even released 2, so let's keep discussion
+about 3 for later"
+
+( seriously, it didn't even occurs to me that we would start discussing
+3 right now )
+
+Personnaly, I think that would be good to have something better than
+current initscripts and shell based approach for managing network
+( since we already manage the network with ifplugd, having a daemon is
+not a so big problem, and I am sure we could have a mode where the
+daemon apply the configuration and then disappear, if that make people
+less nervous ). But I would really make sure that people agree with the
+change. I would rather avoid having the same type of discussion than on
+fedora-devel 
+
+-- 
+Michael Scherer
+
+