[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default.

Tue Aug 23 12:01:56 CEST 2011

'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 23/08/11 10:10 did gyre and gimble:
+> Le mardi 23 août 2011 à 09:30 +0100, Colin Guthrie a écrit :
+>> 'Twas brillig, and Michael scherer at 22/08/11 13:14 did gyre and gimble:
+>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 08:44:01AM -0300, Balcaen John wrote:
+>>>> Le Monday 22 August 2011 12:57:23 Guillaume Rousse a écrit :
+>>>>> On 22/08/2011 11:57, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+>>>>>> I also have it on good authority that many of the features lacking
+>>>>>> in NetworkManager (such as bridging configuration) will be
+>>>>>> available in the not too distant future and many other more
+>>>>>> advanced networking features such as fast-start DHCP,
+>>>>>> per-interface DNS, 4-8's DNS fallback and several other nice
+>>>>>> features will ultimately be possible too.
+>>>>> While I don't care about configuration wizards, I do about
+>>>>> initscripts. How are you supposed to configure a server in some
+>>>>> automated manner without plain-old configuration files ?
+>>>> If i'm not wrong you can still drop plain text files in 
+>>>> /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
+>>>
+>>> Provided you want to do nothing fancy like bridge, vlan and 
+>>> others stuff that are used by sysadmins. 
+>>
+>> As I said in my initial email, but was not clear. All of these things
+>> will be supported in a much nicer way in the near future.
+> 
+> But so far, this is not supported. And since we have said we do not
+> remove non systemd from Mageia 2
+> ( https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006701.html ) ,
+> I think we cannot take systemd for granted before mageia 3. 
+
+Yup, that's why I mentioned mageia 3 in my initial mail.
+
+> And precisely, because we are not gonna keep only systemd for mageia 2,
+> we cannot depreciate network script.
+
+Oh yeah, I'm not proposing any of this for mga2...
+
+>> But yes, Fedora will switch and we can follow, but it would be nice to
+>> be at the fore front here if possible.
+> 
+> Would we have too much ressources, maybe. But so far, there is already
+> enough work on http://check.mageia.org/ to keep people busy, and I do
+> not really see the need to add more breakage and shiny stuff when we are
+> far from being able to take care of what we already have.
+
+Well, fixing the existing stuff or switching to new shiney things with
+no doubt (different) breakages, is much of a muchness IMO. Sure it does
+take some initial work, but also allows us to get fixes from other
+parties rather than having to fix everything ourselves which is, overall
+a net positive in terms of resources.
+
+Col
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