[Mageia-artwork] New wiki

Wed Nov 9 16:26:21 CET 2011

Am 09.11.2011 15:44, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
+> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Thorsten van Lil <tvl83 at gmx.de
+> <mailto:tvl83 at gmx.de>> wrote:
+>
+>     Am 09.11.2011 14:49, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
+>
+>         On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Romain d'Alverny
+>         <rdalverny at gmail.com <mailto:rdalverny at gmail.com>
+>         <mailto:rdalverny at gmail.com <mailto:rdalverny at gmail.com>>> wrote:
+>
+>             On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:57, Thorsten van Lil <tvl83 at gmx.de
+>         <mailto:tvl83 at gmx.de>
+>         <mailto:tvl83 at gmx.de <mailto:tvl83 at gmx.de>>> wrote:
+>          > The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team
+>             members?
+>          > What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?
+>
+>             Being a team _peer_ member is distinct than just attending.
+>         I know it
+>             may sound ludicrous or over-theorical, but this is important
+>         to know
+>             who gets a vote and who doesn't, in some situation (such as
+>         electing
+>             the leader, the deputy leader, and deciding on serious
+>         issues if a
+>             vote is needed). So, in this point of view, yes, having a
+>         list of who
+>             is a peer is important.
+>
+>             It's important too so that it can be written somewhere for write
+>             accesses in some places (yes, the storage thing is lagging
+>         behind), so
+>             that we can roughly know how many people are involved (there's a
+>             user/group web app in the works), etc.
+>
+>          > If it is just like the "Credits" in games/films, than it should
+>             be those
+>          > who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really fair,
+>          > because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good
+>             ideas or
+>          > their opinions.
+>
+>             Credits are a distinct thing. For instance, Olivier Faurax
+>         (for the
+>             original design) and Alexn83 (for reworking it) have to be
+>         in such a
+>             list for the current logo (and if we are for an exact
+>         changelog of it,
+>             we can as well add Hélène, but that was an offline work).
+>
+>          > Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more
+>             fair,
+>          > but that would be round about 20 members.
+>
+>             As a reminder, being a peer means having been recognized by
+>         other
+>             peers. And as we did for other teams, this list has to be
+>         bootstrapped
+>             by the leader.
+>
+>
+>         Hear that Thorsten? Let's see a list of peers.
+>
+>
+>     If you ask me that politely  :)
+>
+>     On the quick, some proposals:
+>
+>     tumbeliina
+>     dimosthenis
+>     alexn83
+>     Oliver Faurax
+>     rda
+>     ennael
+>     dmorgen
+>     trish
+>     Oliver Burger
+>     Max
+>     Donald Steward
+>     Zlatko
+>     dtsiamasiotis
+>     mikala
+>     dams
+>     TeaAge
+>
+>     Regards,
+>     Thorsten
+>
+>
+> Thank you :)
+> Now, I still think of myself as the new guy, and this might be a good
+> judge of who is active and who isn't: names I don't recognize. If I
+> don't recognize the name, that means they haven't been active since
+> early June.
+> And those are:
+> Zlatko
+> dtsiamasiotis
+> dimosthenis
+
+Zlatko is a designer who responded on the call for designer on the blog. 
+He told me he is reading the list. However he already did some work for 
+mageia. Have a look at bug #261
+https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261
+
+dtsiamasiotis has attend to many meating. Also some you were attending 
+too 
+(http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-07-06-17.11.html). 
+He also was responsible for new icons for harddrake2.
+
+Dimosthenis .... I'm not sure, to be honest. I put him to the list, but 
+dtsiamasiotis was meant. So we can discard him I guess.
+
+>
+> Next, if I am not mistaken, rda and Oliver Burger are primarily not in
+> the artwork team, they just do a little bit of everything :P So, do we
+> put them in as well? And what about ennael? She REALLY does everything,
+> but does she need to be listed as part of each and every team?
+> And what about AlexN83? If I am not mistaken nobody has been able to
+> make contact with him since before Mga1...
+>
+
+Well, who do want on the list? Everyone who played a part for the 
+artwork team and is on the list. As rda pointed, those have a vote for 
+representatives etc.
+rda lead all meetings before I did and founded the artwork group. Oliver 
+did a lot for the wiki especially in question of design and is actively 
+part of a lot discussions around artwork.
+AlexN83 could never be contact since mga1, as you said. But as we are 
+still using his work and he is always welcome to came back, I would put 
+him on the list.
+Ennael ... a round the release of Mga1 she cared a lot of artwork and 
+made sure we had a nice KDE menu icon (that has not come from the 
+artwork team).
+
+Thorsten
+
+