[Mageia-artwork] New wiki

Wed Nov 9 16:43:09 CET 2011

Alright.
+To be honest, I wasn't sure about dtsiamasiotis, the name did sound
+familiar, just not familiar enough.
+So, barring any objections, I will create a page in the new wiki with a
+table, and that whole list of people (except for Dimosthenis).
+The columns will be: IRC nick, forum nick, email, tasks/contributions. For
+anybody whom I don't have any information in any cell I will leave blank,
+and that can be filled in later. The table will be sorted alphabetically by
+IRC nick.
+Aside from that, Thorsten's contact information (his IRC nick) will be
+available directly from the main artwork page.
+For starters, I will only post IRC nicks and the tasks/contributions that I
+know of, and anybody who wants more information about them should let me
+know, either on-list or in a private email.
+
+Now, what about the guidelines?
+
+On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Thorsten van Lil <tvl83 at gmx.de> wrote:
+
+> Am 09.11.2011 15:44, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
+>
+>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Thorsten van Lil <tvl83 at gmx.de
+>> <mailto:tvl83 at gmx.de>> wrote:
+>>
+>>    Am 09.11.2011 14:49, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
+>>
+>>        On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Romain d'Alverny
+>>        <rdalverny at gmail.com <mailto:rdalverny at gmail.com>
+>>        <mailto:rdalverny at gmail.com <mailto:rdalverny at gmail.com>>> wrote:
+>>
+>>            On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:57, Thorsten van Lil <tvl83 at gmx.de
+>>        <mailto:tvl83 at gmx.de>
+>>        <mailto:tvl83 at gmx.de <mailto:tvl83 at gmx.de>>> wrote:
+>>         > The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team
+>>            members?
+>>         > What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?
+>>
+>>            Being a team _peer_ member is distinct than just attending.
+>>        I know it
+>>            may sound ludicrous or over-theorical, but this is important
+>>        to know
+>>            who gets a vote and who doesn't, in some situation (such as
+>>        electing
+>>            the leader, the deputy leader, and deciding on serious
+>>        issues if a
+>>            vote is needed). So, in this point of view, yes, having a
+>>        list of who
+>>            is a peer is important.
+>>
+>>            It's important too so that it can be written somewhere for
+>> write
+>>            accesses in some places (yes, the storage thing is lagging
+>>        behind), so
+>>            that we can roughly know how many people are involved (there's
+>> a
+>>            user/group web app in the works), etc.
+>>
+>>         > If it is just like the "Credits" in games/films, than it should
+>>            be those
+>>         > who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really
+>> fair,
+>>         > because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good
+>>            ideas or
+>>         > their opinions.
+>>
+>>            Credits are a distinct thing. For instance, Olivier Faurax
+>>        (for the
+>>            original design) and Alexn83 (for reworking it) have to be
+>>        in such a
+>>            list for the current logo (and if we are for an exact
+>>        changelog of it,
+>>            we can as well add Hélène, but that was an offline work).
+>>
+>>         > Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more
+>>            fair,
+>>         > but that would be round about 20 members.
+>>
+>>            As a reminder, being a peer means having been recognized by
+>>        other
+>>            peers. And as we did for other teams, this list has to be
+>>        bootstrapped
+>>            by the leader.
+>>
+>>
+>>        Hear that Thorsten? Let's see a list of peers.
+>>
+>>
+>>    If you ask me that politely  :)
+>>
+>>    On the quick, some proposals:
+>>
+>>    tumbeliina
+>>    dimosthenis
+>>    alexn83
+>>    Oliver Faurax
+>>    rda
+>>    ennael
+>>    dmorgen
+>>    trish
+>>    Oliver Burger
+>>    Max
+>>    Donald Steward
+>>    Zlatko
+>>    dtsiamasiotis
+>>    mikala
+>>    dams
+>>    TeaAge
+>>
+>>    Regards,
+>>    Thorsten
+>>
+>>
+>> Thank you :)
+>> Now, I still think of myself as the new guy, and this might be a good
+>> judge of who is active and who isn't: names I don't recognize. If I
+>> don't recognize the name, that means they haven't been active since
+>> early June.
+>> And those are:
+>> Zlatko
+>> dtsiamasiotis
+>> dimosthenis
+>>
+>
+> Zlatko is a designer who responded on the call for designer on the blog.
+> He told me he is reading the list. However he already did some work for
+> mageia. Have a look at bug #261
+> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_**bug.cgi?id=261<https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261>
+>
+> dtsiamasiotis has attend to many meating. Also some you were attending too
+> (http://meetbot.mageia.org/**mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-**
+> artwork.2011-07-06-17.11.html<http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-07-06-17.11.html>
+> )**. He also was responsible for new icons for harddrake2.
+>
+> Dimosthenis .... I'm not sure, to be honest. I put him to the list, but
+> dtsiamasiotis was meant. So we can discard him I guess.
+>
+>
+>
+>> Next, if I am not mistaken, rda and Oliver Burger are primarily not in
+>> the artwork team, they just do a little bit of everything :P So, do we
+>> put them in as well? And what about ennael? She REALLY does everything,
+>> but does she need to be listed as part of each and every team?
+>> And what about AlexN83? If I am not mistaken nobody has been able to
+>> make contact with him since before Mga1...
+>>
+>>
+> Well, who do want on the list? Everyone who played a part for the artwork
+> team and is on the list. As rda pointed, those have a vote for
+> representatives etc.
+> rda lead all meetings before I did and founded the artwork group. Oliver
+> did a lot for the wiki especially in question of design and is actively
+> part of a lot discussions around artwork.
+> AlexN83 could never be contact since mga1, as you said. But as we are
+> still using his work and he is always welcome to came back, I would put him
+> on the list.
+> Ennael ... a round the release of Mga1 she cared a lot of artwork and made
+> sure we had a nice KDE menu icon (that has not come from the artwork team).
+>
+> Thorsten
+>
+>
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