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There are lots of things that are waiting for people +</I>>><i> to join, help and build under mageia.org. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> It's cool and great too to foster local energies in a more dynamic +</I>>><i> space (your site), no question about it. But the global mageia.org +</I>>><i> effort is in need for joint efforts. So if you feel there is something +</I>>><i> missing, even if it may take more time, it's important to take this +</I>>><i> time to explain, advocate, and even more importantly, help building +</I>>><i> and build what may be missing. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> What is "official" is in mageia.org and is, as much as possible, +</I>>><i> global, through all locales hosted on mageia.org (and here we rely +</I>>><i> heavily on translators and web developers). It's a permanent work in +</I>>><i> progress. We have plans. It takes time. That doesn't prevent from +</I>>><i> having local initiatives and efforts, but we can't count this as +</I>>><i> official if it's not designed thought in a global scope. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> While I am slightly late, I would also add that we cannot really tell +</I>><i> something is official if we cannot even see how it is managed and how it +</I>><i> work. We cannot judge based on plans, so I would defer the discussion +</I>><i> and in the mean time, clarify some points : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> what it mean to be official ? +</I>><i> ( to me, it would be managed by mageia.org association and on a +</I>><i> mageia.org subdomain, but maybe others have different views and +</I>><i> different perspectives than the one of a sysadmin ). +</I> +Not only from a sysadmin's POV but also from a user's POV. If a user +is looking for some clarification, let's say about the position of +Mageia.Org related to some issue - where does he should turn to? +Exactly: the official website of the organisation. Having a local page +is noce of course but for official information users have to turn to +the address mageia,org. +In consequence it would be much easier for the user having a page in +his language under the official site structure (ex: +<A HREF="http://mageia.org/it">http://mageia.org/it</A> ) than any address outside where he can not know +about the status. + +><i> What to do if 2 competing services, on the same country, language, etc +</I>><i> appear ? Do we have to choose one, do we have to give a equal treatment +</I>><i> to both ( which would then cause subtle issues like the non unicity in +</I>><i> various part of the system, like having a potential redirection of +</I>><i> something like it.community.mageia.org to 2 different sites ) ? +</I> +Somebody remembering the issue about 2 different italian Mandriva +sites, each claiming to be the official one? I'm not pointing my +finger to the Italians, this could happen in every language community. +The more important is it to make a point in having "official" sites +only under the mageia.org website structure. + +><i> I agree, we should indeed simply list "here is local community", add +</I>><i> some light process ( like "be there since enough time to demonstrate +</I>><i> that it will be sustainable", "be managed by a non-for-profit group, or +</I>><i> by individuals" or anything we see fit ). +</I> +A local forum is a whole other story, from the beginning we proposed +to have local forums either on a local site or in the +forums.mageia.org structure. A forum also is different to a website, +it is the home, meeting, and support place for the users, not the +place where you point to for official information (of course in every +forum you can quote and link the official website). + +><i> And make sure that we from time to time check that the site still exist, +</I>><i> etc. And make clear that we do not manage them. +</I> +Yes. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000919.html">[Mageia-webteam] Request of formal approval for mageiaitalia.org +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000912.html">[Mageia-webteam] Your Bugzilla bug list needs attention. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#920">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#920">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#920">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#920">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |