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And yes, we rely on authors +</I>><i> >> benevolence in this regard. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Well, this has to be clearly said. That's not the same policy on all +</I>><i> > planet, and I think that having a tag is not enough ( see Adam W post on +</I>><i> > planet Mandriva, some people have seen them too off topic, but it has a +</I>><i> > tag Mandriva nonetheless ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> How do you suggest to manage it otherwise? +</I> +No, I do not say that using a tag is not good on a technical level. I +say that the definition should be IMHO clearer than "using a tag". Ie, +what do we expect on the tag. + +><i> > Marcom, marketing or communication ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Both. +</I> +Well, to me, this look like the job of communication more than +marketing, but maybe I mistake the purpose of the marketing team. + +><i> > Shouldn't the board have the final say ( as one of the duty is conflict +</I>><i> > management ) ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The board always has a final say, that's a given. But that should +</I>><i> still be exceptional and repeating it over and over won't entrust +</I>><i> teams on themselves. +</I> +If we entrust the marketing team to do conflict management and editorial +control, it should be clearly said. If the duty is shared among the +board, the web team, the communication team, the marketing team, it may +not be so final say, and I can only foresee potential conflicts. + +><i> > We can hardly call "community feed aggregation" a new field of +</I>><i> > experimentation, given the fact that it is a common practice in free +</I>><i> > software since years. And we can also take for granted that unspecified +</I>><i> > things will likely be interpreted differently. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's the interesting part; to let thing go different. +</I> +If we want to be different, then I still have my old proposal of having +a feed of feeds instead of a feed of articles. But this requires to +write lots of software, patchs and a protocol ( and not enough space in +the margin for this ) + +><i> Nonetheless, how would you act on this then? (filtering, policy for +</I>><i> aggregation, etc.) +</I> +Personally, I would not do it. At least, not now. All teams are not +started, website is still at zarb, blogs also at zarb, catdap is not +announced ( and would be nice with more polish ), lots of more pressing +needs ( maintainers db, wiki ), etc. + + +Now, if I wanted to do it, I would still aim for having the minimal +requirement of maintainability. People ( as long they have a email +alias, ie are peers ) decide what they blog, how they blog, etc. Some +kind of wiki way applied to feed aggregations. I would even push to +delegate the feeds in ldap so people can change themselves without +anyone intervention. + + +But let's pretend we should have to decide and what to filter ( because +i am pretty sure that the free-for-all POV is not universally shared ). + +First, I would try to clearly articulate the goal of the website. Having +"a regular stream of news about Mageia" is not the same as "discovering +the life of contributors". For example, the aforementioned chocolate +cake pictures is likely not ok if the goal is to speak only of Mageia. + +Getting the target audience is also important, and anticipate where it +should be displayed. + +This allows to know if we want someone see the word fuck or not. We may +not want to have strong political comments on the frontpage of the +project ( As said, I personally wouldn't care, but I guess that's not a +universal view ). + +The rest will then come by itself after that. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000203.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000205.html">[Mageia-webteam] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#204">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#204">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#204">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#204">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |