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( ie, if we do want to automate thing, and that's one of the +</I>><i> sysadmin team goal ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Deploying a simple git repository managed like a svn one would be easy +</I>><i> and fast. But that would be marginally better than git-svn. +</I> +Indeed, unless you adapt manually for each project (one with a +gatekeeper merging changes, one with open bar^Waccess, etc.) + +><i> Deploying a full system with workflow delegation is much more difficult, +</I>><i> but that's what we would want. +</I> +Well... I may write it too fast, but I am not sure that, for instance +a gitorious setup (hard part) would prevent several workflows to grow +depending on the team working on it. + +><i> So a compromise would be to decide for 1 simple workflow, use for +</I>><i> everything in the first place, and postpone the deployment of a full +</I>><i> system to later. +</I> +Yes, but what workflow then? + +>><i>  * server logs: +</I>>><i>    - read access to webmasters +</I>>><i>    - some limited commands? what type? rsync/svn/git types? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, limited command could be hard to achieve. I assume that read logs +</I>><i> is just "set permission properly" ( easy to do ). Limitation of command +</I>><i> could be done with sudo, but wouldn't change much if we give access to +</I>><i> shell. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i>  * server deployment: +</I>>><i>    - staging from a branch available to all peers +</I>>><i>    - production push from staging available to webmasters only +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We can : +</I>><i> - use sudo + script + ldap group +</I>><i> - use $VCS based tags/branch + acl ( potentially based on ldap group +</I>><i> again ) +</I> +Hmm, sorry I'm lost here. + +><i> ( and I am picky, but sysadmin is the name of the team +</I>><i> in ldap, I do not know why people say sysadm everywhere, likely because +</I>><i> of the name of the list and irc channel  :/ ). +</I> +Indeed :-p and that's 2 (!) chars less to type. + +><i> So to summarize : +</I>><i> - external people +</I>><i> - webteam members +</I>><i> - webmasters +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So 1st step, adding 2 group to ldap ? +</I> +Yep. webmasters and webpeers (or webteam members). + +Romain +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000098.html">[Mageia-webteam] Webteam peers, bootstrapping +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000101.html">[Mageia-webteam] Calendar on the website +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#100">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#100">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#100">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#100">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |