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Once that solved i'd fear to see +</I>>>><i> mongers and python experts reviewing PHPBB hacks... by the way +</I>>>><i> testing them in a testbed without a copy of the real database... +</I>>>><i> pushing them blindly with git and asking if a sysadmin could find 2 +</I>>>><i> minutes to push them on the actives forums... waiting for the +</I>>>><i> mail/whatever notification to click on the interfaces (of each... a +</I>>>><i> chance we have only 2 of them) and run the update process (praying +</I>>>><i> god that everything will go as expected because the rollback given +</I>>>><i> this way of doing things is just something that you don't want to +</I>>>><i> get into) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> That's what i already pointed... half an admin... bound and distrusted... as +</I>>>><i> useful as the ties allow to be (iow not very much). +</I>>><i> Sorry, just can't resist. You wrote in the other mail: +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I already explained that separating these roles would bring no good... a pure +</I>>>><i> "interface forum admin" is an emasculated admin... nearly useless. Without +</I>>>><i> the ability of administrating the database at a low level adding indexes for +</I>>>><i> tuning, optimizing cache and that sort of things, getting data from apache +</I>>>><i> logs and various things to lock spammers without loading the system, without +</I>>>><i> all these tasks a forum admin is, in facts, not a forum admin but just a +</I>>>><i> figurine... beautiful in a glass case if in line with adornment ^^ +</I>>><i> On the other hand, what's an admin who does nothing except +</I>>><i> being absent, not even doing forum software security updates? +</I> +TBH, Florian, I would have left completely if I had been him, but he is +still around. + +Can you please give a link to the updates you just mentioned? + + + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004292.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [forums-discuss] Re: updating sysadmin privileges in forum config +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004295.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [forums-discuss] Re: updating sysadmin privileges in forum config +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4294">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4294">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4294">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4294">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |