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The culprit is that +</I>><i> it's not in sync with LDAP so far, so it's to be manually updated. +</I>It's already been done for all sysadmins who asked for it or simply +needed that at least once. + +And they not only were put as administrator but also as forum-founders. + +That's why you're able to do this privileges update... i did set you +forum-founder and that's in the straight line of what's already been +done from the beginning. + +For LDAP technical sync i already explained that we could use Talend +Jobs to get privileges and roles from LDAP and push them to the forum +without needing a heavy code change. Once per day or once per hour or +triggered on LDAP change... + +><i> Targetted situation: +</I>><i> - forum _technical_ management people => sysadmin (includes updating +</I>><i> the code base, reviewing and applying patches) +</I>><i> - forum administration (roles, configuration, all that can be done +</I>><i> through the Web interface, interfacing with sysadmin) => someone still +</I>><i> to step up +</I> +I already explained that separating these roles would bring no good... a +pure "interface forum admin" is an emasculated admin... nearly useless. +Without the ability of administrating the database at a low level adding +indexes for tuning, optimizing cache and that sort of things, getting +data from apache logs and various things to lock spammers without +loading the system, without all these tasks a forum admin is, in facts, +not a forum admin but just a figurine... beautiful in a glass case if in +line with adornment ^^ + +But useless... or nearly. Well not totally... can still promote +moderators or do moderations tasks as a "supermoderator" if in need of +flattering image... once a while add a forum or tweak a few things +(missing privileges, tweak thresholds or various subtle parameters). + +But such a half-admin used this way gives 5% of what he could bring to +the community through the forums. + +><i> - we don't touch to user-defined groups by default (although I'm not +</I>><i> sure Packagers/Sysadmins ones are really needed/used - they are not in +</I>><i> sync either - but this should be dealt with future forum) +</I>They could be of great use... i wont explain again why and how. + +><i> - we use the Administrators group to manage who gets to fully manage +</I>><i> the forums (there's an extra higher level for that, but not accessible +</I>><i> to anyone at this time). Sysadmin members are members of this group. +</I>><i> I'm reviewing the steps to do that (I will most likely kill the +</I>><i> Sysadmins group and copy the forums users from the LDAP sysadmin group +</I>><i> into this Administrators group). +</I>Well really that will not change the face of the world. The 2 groups +were separated because some sysadmins seemed so unwilling to deal with +forums that having the 2 could allow to have some shown as sysadmin to +anwser sysadmin things without having forum-admin privileges. + +But if nobody cares you can simplify. Nothing will change in the world +but you'll have removed a group in the footer of the forum. + +><i> - this is for forums.mageia.org/en/ ; forums.mageia.org/de/ should be +</I>><i> managed in the same way, but we need someone to relay the discussion +</I>><i> in German. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Comments? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> r. +</I>><i> +</I>Oliver already answered about that. + +Just one comment : You could ask me for that change (You could try just +for the fun of it on irc: maat on freenode)... it would be done in +seconds without side effect. You could even ask for LDAP sync or perhaps +one or two more things who knows ? + +m. + +-- +Life is magic... at least it would be if... + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004333.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [forums-discuss] Re: updating sysadmin privileges in forum config +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004293.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Access to ARM boards +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4288">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4288">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4288">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4288">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |