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Giving an email address +</I>><i> > > contact is not a loss of privacy. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > It depend to who you give it. And given +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/privacy">http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/privacy</A> , I think it can be +</I>><i> > qualified to be, yes. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > So while some people do not see problem with this, some others do, and +</I>><i> > we should listen to their wishes. After a quick check, there is around +</I>><i> > 10 people out of 250 in the directory with obviously fake names ( cause +</I>><i> > I think no one is called "palm pre" ). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Some people may have very good reasons to not wanting to give their real +</I>><i> > name or email address. I know several companies where the manager is ok +</I>><i> > to send stuff upstream, but do not the name of the company to be +</I>><i> > mentioned ( for example some divisions of France Telecom do this and +</I>><i> > there is also some rumors about Trolltech doing the same before Nokia +</I>><i> > era ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think that's not a problem here. We're not checking ID of people who +</I>><i> create accounts, so they can use the name they want to be called. +</I> +Not yet. What about the day someone will propose to use gpg and the web +of trust ( who is currently based on checking ID card ) for some stuff ? + +><i> They are also not forced to use their work email, they can create an email +</I>><i> just for this. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So I don't know what the problem is exactly. +</I> +If the argument is "if people do not like giving informations, they can +simply not tell the truth", yes I see this as a problem, because we are +quite inconsistent. + +On identity.m.o, we do ask : +- login +- email +- personal information + +Login is obviously required. + +For email, yes, we need to have one, that's a technical requirement on +this part, we cannot do much, except clearly telling to people what it +would be used for, if they can use a trash email or not, etc, etc. + +Problem is asking for Last name/First name. + +Identity.m.o will be used almost everywhere, like for example on the +forum. + +Some people may find invasive to give Last name/First name especially +for posting on a forum when compared to all others ( I checked several +french forums, none requires giving anything except a email and a +login ). + +So either we care about having this information ( for example for legal +reasons ) and in this case, this must be clearly explained, and then we +may have to be more stringent depending on requirements. In this case, +we cannot say "you can enter what you want". + +Or we do not care about the personal information, then it should also be +clear. And I see no clearer way to say "this is not required" that not +requiring it upon creation of the account. + +IMHO, we should not adopt the sloppy practice of others websites of +saying so mandatory when this is not. + +Telling to users to workaround this by giving incorrect information do +not seems like a very good way to show we care about people. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002991.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [RPM] cauldron core/release tagtool-0.12.3-2.mga1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003003.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [RPM] cauldron core/release tagtool-0.12.3-2.mga1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3002">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3002">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3002">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3002">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |