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I hope you can accept that. +</I> +I totally do. + +But please accept that I don't see this as a move that fosters public +(and in-project) trust and matches my expectations from people joining +the project. It's not only about you and me, it's about the people out +there that could be interested in joining any of us because of our +involvement in the project. + +It's not a matter of tools only. It's too a matter of being openly +confident in what we do, and show it. Whatever happens, we're proud of +what Mageia is and what we do there all together. + +><i> I don't see why that makes any difference for a public open source project, +</I>><i> in fact there are many projects where this is normal (especially those +</I>><i> creating audio/video software with potential patent issues). +</I> +Which even encourages this gray situation in favor of sw patents then, IMHO. + +><i> Also you moved way beyond the issue here, this discussion was about putting +</I>><i> real names and email addresses in the changelogs nothing else, and I have +</I>><i> given specific reasons why I don't think that's a good idea and I have +</I>><i> suggested several compromises. +</I> +I saw that, yes, but this specific issue relates to the more global +matter of, as I said: anonymity, accountability and reachability in +and out of the project. This infuses back to Changelogs where the +point is to facilitate _all_ (existing and new) _contributors_' life +(among whicih, knowing/contacting each other). + +See initial request from Thierry too, that specifically raised this +against previous common practice among Mandriva packagers: +<A HREF="https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-sysadm/2011-March/002952.html">https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-sysadm/2011-March/002952.html</A> + +><i> Specifically with regards to the email address in the changelog (apart from +</I>><i> spam concerns) I think that's wrong because it encourages users to not +</I>><i> follow the correct procedures. +</I> +See replies from others, they are not users only and they welcome to +have this info in the changelog and commits. + +><i> The correct procedure would be to open a bug report or post any other +</I>><i> queries on the dev ML. +</I> +Of course. That does not justify to make it harder for people to +identify/contact you for a legitimate matter, related or no + +On the practical side, that's the same with a website: putting a +contact form instead of an email address contact for the sake of +avoiding spam or "funneling" the message is moot, if not suspect (and +same with those companies that can't put their team people names in +the "About Us" page, but just some pointless speech about what they +do). + +Unless you do an excellent job that does justify a form-based +workflow, just use a direct, personal contact: email just works fine; +few do it really well; most forms, if not all, suck. Big time. In many +ways. Email sucks too, but at least its experience is more +predictable. + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002970.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [RPM] cauldron core/release tagtool-0.12.3-2.mga1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002972.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [RPM] cauldron core/release tagtool-0.12.3-2.mga1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2971">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2971">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2971">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2971">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |