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+ <B>Michael scherer</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 02:49:41PM +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, 16 Jan 2011, Michael scherer wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 02:15:35PM +0100, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Revision: 810
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Author: misc
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Date: 2011-01-16 14:15:35 +0100 (Sun, 16 Jan 2011)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Log Message:
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; split subversion-tools in its own class, to prepare for svn mirror
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Since we still do not have any svn viewer system, I had a idea that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; would allow us to have one without sacrifiying security :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - use a viewer with a readonly clone of svn.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; For example, we could use svnsync on alamut to copy the svn from valstar.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( I tried svm, but it seems to be quite broken ). I have a module ready to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; be committed for that.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This way :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - we have backups ( until someone do a full real backup system, and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; so until we have fiona )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - someone compromissing the server cannot modify the svn ( as this is a copy )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - we will have local access to the data
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - full range of web interface ( and not just viewvc, even if I think it is fine )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - local access is faster than remote ( after testing viewvc )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - the svn server will not be loaded with web request while at the same time
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The only issue is the bin-repos svn repository. I am not sure that it would be wise to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mirror it on alamut. But we can decide to at least offer viewvc for adm, packages, and web ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, it looks like a good idea.
+</I>&gt;<i> Only issue would be that we can't see the latest commits immediately.
+</I>&gt;<i> But if we mirror often, it should be ok.
+</I>
+Depend if the sync is push or pull.
+Ie, we can use ssh::auth to generate keys to push and run a snvmirror sync on commit.
+For the moment, I have done it with cron ( safer from my pov ), but we can change
+later if needed.
+
+&gt;<i> Now we need to find a vhost name for the web interface ? svnweb.mageia.org ?
+</I>
+That seems a call for bikeshedding :p
+Shouldn't we first decide the software to use ?
+So far there is ( on top of my head ) :
+- viewvc
+- websvn
+
+Viewvc do requires a patch to handle big repositories, was what we used
+at mdv. It requires mysql db for searching the repository ( but
+we can disable it, or port to postgresql if we have time ), and a
+backport for fastcgi support.
+
+I didn't look much at Websvn, except that it requires to run svn on the
+commandline. While this sound like bad idea for
+performance reasons, it is also a php web application, so this could
+conflict with sushosin, or similar protection system. I do not
+know how it handle big repositories, nor the exact requirements except
+&quot;php&quot;.
+
+Anyone who want to work and compare both in term of useful
+features ?
+
+( I would favor viewvc, but I am biased toward my tutelar language. )
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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