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+ <B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
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+ <I>Fri Feb 11 09:33:44 CET 2011</I>
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+Le vendredi 11 f&#233;vrier 2011 00:32:55, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 10 f&#233;vrier 2011 &#224; 23:26 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le jeudi 10 f&#233;vrier 2011 21:56:32, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hi, I have created the group mga-founders to hold the uid of founders.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Just FYI.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Since we start to have lots of group, I suggest that we start using the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; description attribute, to store information about the goal of each
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; group ( just checked the rfc, after thomas suggested ).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Or should we also track this on the wiki ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Has the concept of &quot;founders&quot; still a meaning now that we have a board
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and team council representatives ? I thought the &quot;founders&quot; were only a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; temporary group meant to let place to the council and the board.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> According to statutes, yes :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mageia_org_statutes">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mageia_org_statutes</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> See article 6.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And according to Article 12, the founders are part of the assembly, no
+</I>&gt;<i> matter their statutes ( from my understanding ). This is not clear if a
+</I>&gt;<i> founder moved to the status of honor member ( article 6, again ) must be
+</I>&gt;<i> present to the assembly or not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Except if there is a legal reason for that, I don' understand why there's such
+a distinction between founder members and active members. To me, this is
+exactly the same thing, the founders being just the first active members.
+
+Now that I read the statuses, I see that in pratice, founders have no different
+practical role than active members. Then I still maintain I don't see what the
+distinction between founders and active members is for.
+
+This is nothing personal (I am not going to be an active member for now, being
+council representative of no team), but this distinction feels weird in our
+community based governance.
+
+But I should move this discussion to another ML.
+
+Regards
+
+Samuel
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