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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+<PRE>Le samedi 13 novembre 2010 &#224; 01:12 +0100, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * nicolas vigier (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; The Mageia packages repository will be stored on valstar. As the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; repository will be needed on build nodes, it will have to be either
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; mirrored or mounted via nfs (readonly). If we use nfs, I think we should
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; first setup a firewall before installing the nfs server. A firewall
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; would also be useful to filter connections to the pgsql/mysql servers,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; to the build nodes, etc ...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I suggest using shorewall to manage the firewall configuration. Any
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; comment about this ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I saw you mostly wrote the shorewall, however, I don't like myself
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; shroewall. Shorewall is nothing more than a set of scripts over iptables
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and I think it add a useless complexity over this last one.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I widelly prefer to use directly iptables. I believe we are experienced
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; enough to write iptables rules ourself.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For me, using shorewall is much more simple than writting iptables
+</I>&gt;<i> rules directly. I always forget iptables parameters, while shorewall
+</I>&gt;<i> rules are very simple. I don't know if managing iptables rules in puppet
+</I>&gt;<i> for different hosts would be as simple.
+</I>
+I also prefer iptables, but on the other hand, I can understand people
+do not like it. I always found that firewall script lacked some form of
+abstractions, and there is usually lots of cut and paste everywhere
+( not to mention the use of bash ).
+
+So I would go for shorewall too.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I plan to write a shorewall module in puppet, test it on jonund first,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; without installing shorewall (only writting the config files), then
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; install shorewall on jonund, and if we didn't lose access to jonund
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; install it on other nodes.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Playing with firewall on computer we can access only by network, woot !
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think access control can be done w/o using iptables.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some programs provide access control, but not all, and it is often more
+</I>&gt;<i> limited than what you can do with a firewall. It can also be more
+</I>&gt;<i> vulnerable in case of security issue in one of the services. So I think
+</I>&gt;<i> using a firewall might be better. Especially for build nodes where we
+</I>&gt;<i> don't know exactly what services will be installed in the chroot and
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe running during the builds.
+</I>
+We can have both. Ie firewall and access control.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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