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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+<PRE>On Tue, 09 Nov 2010, Buchan Milne wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On Monday, 8 November 2010 17:29:24 nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why a new thread?
+</I>
+I only received your email after creating this thread.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On some machines like the svn server, we need to use pam_ldap to allow
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; users access with their ldap accounts. But on others servers like
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; alamut (web services), or the build nodes, normal users have no reason
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to login.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But, sysadm members have a reason, and I see no reason to increase their
+</I>&gt;<i> overhead with local accounts.
+</I>
+Maybe not on alamut, but on build nodes, I don't think user accounts for
+sysadmins will be very useful. The only reason to login to those nodes
+will be to check/fix iurt problems, which requires root permissions.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; On those servers, do you think we should restrict access with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ssh configuration and a group, or disable pam_ldap completly on those
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; servers and only use local accounts ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was planning for pam_ldap's pam_groupdn option. E.g. a 'sysadm' group.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We also need to decide what UID ranges we use for local accounts, and for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ldap accounts.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And groups. I think we could use the following groups :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * posix : promotes the user as posixAccount+sshPublicKey (in ldap), and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; allows access to the svn and git using svn+<A HREF="ssh://">ssh://</A> and git+<A HREF="ssh://">ssh://</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it would be better to try and provide VCS commit access without shell
+</I>&gt;<i> access. This is easy enough for subversion with mod_dav_svn.
+</I>
+Is there the same for git ?
+But we already need need (restricted) shell access for mdvsys submit.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * packager : allows commits in packages repository, package submit using
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mdvsys,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How are we submitting to mdvsys? Command-line? API?
+</I>
+With mdvsys, and a restricted shell on valstar allowing access to only
+/usr/share/repsys/create-srpm, svn and git commands.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; additional permissions on bugzilla,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What permissions do packagers need that non-packager committer don't?
+</I>
+Maybe none, I'm not sure.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; access to the packages
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; maintainers database, etc ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * web : for members of web team, allows commits in web repository
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * documentation, translator, qa, marketing, etc ... :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * packagerapprentice, webapprentice, etc ... : for apprentices, with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; more restricted access
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is svn commit but no mdvsys access?
+</I>
+Yes.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * sysadm : gives admin permissions on all applications
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is 'Account Admin' &quot;system&quot; group in LDAP, which allows any modification
+</I>&gt;<i> to any users. But, should system administration necessarily mean all access in
+</I>&gt;<i> all applications?
+</I>
+I think yes, at least for applications managed by sysadmin team.
+
+Nicolas
+
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