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+ <B>Buchan Milne</B>
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+<PRE>On Monday, 8 November 2010 17:40:24 Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 17:29, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On some machines like the svn server, we need to use pam_ldap to allow
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; users access with their ldap accounts. But on others servers like
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; alamut (web services), or the build nodes, normal users have no reason
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to login. On those servers, do you think we should restrict access with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ssh configuration and a group, or disable pam_ldap completly on those
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; servers and only use local accounts ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What would be the risk(s) to use specific ldap groups for that
+</I>&gt;<i> purpose? (managing all access in a similar way may be better, no?)
+</I>
+Both have advantages and disadvantages, but the disadvantages for local
+accounts increase with N*M (e.g. total number of operations to remove an
+old/compromised account), whereas the disadvantages for LDAP increase with N.
+
+where N=number of users and M=number of hosts.
+
+Usually by the time N*M &gt; 50 it becomes difficult to be sure passwords have
+been removed everywhere etc.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; And groups. I think we could use the following groups :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * posix : promotes the user as posixAccount+sshPublicKey (in ldap), and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; allows access to the svn and git using svn+<A HREF="ssh://">ssh://</A> and git+<A HREF="ssh://">ssh://</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * packager : allows commits in packages repository, package submit using
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mdvsys, additional permissions on bugzilla, access to the packages
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; maintainers database, etc ...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * web : for members of web team, allows commits in web repository
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * documentation, translator, qa, marketing, etc ... :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * packagerapprentice, webapprentice, etc ... : for apprentices, with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; more restricted access
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * sysadm : gives admin permissions on all applications
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> LDAP groups should as well map team membership. So marketing team guys
+</I>&gt;<i> would belong to such a marketingTeam group then.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What do you think ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We probably won't nail this one in one shot :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As for web, we would need three roles:
+</I>&gt;<i> - web-apprentice
+</I>&gt;<i> - web (commits to web repos and pushes to tests servers)
+</I>&gt;<i> - webmaster (pushes to prod servers)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We need groups as well for (not exclusive):
+</I>&gt;<i> - being a team representative (that is, in the Council)
+</I>
+The current ACLs allow the DN listed in the 'manager' (single-valued)
+attribute of a group to modify the member attribute of this group.
+
+Or, do we need these as mailing lists as well?
+
+&gt;<i> - being an association member (eligible and elector)
+</I>&gt;<i> - being a board member
+</I>&gt;<i> - being the chair(wo)man
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Are group belonging/ownership a &quot;one-time&quot; record or does it get
+</I>&gt;<i> archived? (to access a history of past membership). Or should such a
+</I>&gt;<i> history be built separately?
+</I>
+Archiving isn't that easy, I would prefer a record to be kept when
+appropriate.
+
+Regards,
+Buchan
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