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Yet, i think we can solve it ( even +if this is not as elegant as letting ) without touching puppet, or maybe +by patching puppet to be more virtual-name friendly in the future. +- etc, I didn't found, but I guess we can add + - ability to add a requires a Provides, which would indeed be the same +as virtual packages. + + +In the mean time, I have also took a look at the rpm pulled by +task-bs-cluster-chroot : + +task-bs-cluster-chroot + task-bs-common + basesystem + urpmi + cfengine-cfagent + openssh-server + sshd-monitor + openldap-clients + nss_ldap + pam_ldap + nscd + sudo + zsh + nail + ntp + smartmontools + perl-Image-Size + autofs + nfs-utils-clients + mdv-youri-submit + mdv-distrib-tools + mkcd + perl-File-NCopy + perl-Filesys-Df + perl-MIME-tools + perl-RPM4 + rpmmon + repsys + mdvsys + icecream + postfix + db42-utils + db4-utils >= 4.6 + rpmlint + rpmlint-mandriva-policy + + +So here is some sorting : +urpmi, basesystem, cfengine-cfagent, mdvsys, rpmlint, +rpmlint-mandriva-policy, zsh are not needed on a pure buildhost. Well, +urpmi and basesystem are already here in fact. And I hope that we +finally got ride of the zsh script of chmouel :) + +openssh-server, nss_ldap, pam_ldap, nscd, sudo, sshd-monitor, ntp, nail, +postfix, openldap-clients are already handled by puppet ( ssh is +monitored by puppet with Service ) + +smartmontools and icecream should be converted to puppet module. + +i am not sure that rpmmon work or is really needed. I remeber having +seems it being used at iurt. + +autofs, nfs-utils-clients. I do not think autofs will be useful, and for +nfs-utils-client, we can use the mount type, and indeed add a requires +on it, since it seems iurt need nfs. + +This let us with the following packages : + + perl-File-NCopy + perl-Filesys-Df + perl-MIME-tools + perl-RPM4 + perl-Image-Size + +I assume these are needed for some script. However, since there was lots +of cruft, I would be in favor of : +- removing them, see what break, add those that are required + + + db42-utils + db4-utils >= 4.6 +I also assume this was needed by some iurt hack, that blino removed +( not sure ). Again, maybe we can remove this ? + + mdv-youri-submit + mkcd + repsys + +I am doubtful they are used on a pure buildhost. So maybe we can remove +them ? If they are needed because they provides some perl modules, they +will be pulled by the packages anyway. + + mdv-distrib-tools +contain a perl module and a executable. I do not exactly what it does, +but I am pretty sure it is used on the main mirror, not on buildhost. +So we could likely remove it too. + + +So, while I do not intend to remove them right now ( at least, not while +blino is still setting everything ), does people see something wrong in +the list ? + +Aka, stop requiring everything, convert icecream, smartmontools and +nfs-utils to proper modules. +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000997.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [491] - add the zone for reverse dns on our ipv6 range +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001015.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [398] install iurt on main node as well, for scheduler tools +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#998">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#998">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#998">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#998">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |