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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120612/398aedbf/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120612/398aedbf/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e71594be0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120612/398aedbf/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,38 @@ +<html> + <head> + <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" + http-equiv="Content-Type"> + </head> + <body text="#009900" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> + On 06/12/2012 07:15 PM, Romain d'Alverny wrote: + <blockquote +cite="mid:CANa9xwse0VjwciOn3-_6sTnwXRyxFJMBiqDJfVzH1TM4o3uT8A@mail.gmail.com" + type="cite"> + <blockquote type="cite"> + <pre wrap="">The one of these that I felt could really use some urgent attention is +Wikipedia. [...] +If perhaps someone either from this team or maybe the document team +has some approved language I could write a proposal for a Wikipedia update. +</pre> + </blockquote> + <pre wrap=""> +What do you suggest to write? +_______________________________________________ +Mageia-marketing mailing list +<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a> +<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a> +</pre> + </blockquote> + I was thinking mostly just about expanding on features, mission, + community, etc. I'm going through the archives now, but I am + looking to see where I can currently be of the most help while my + workload is lighter. Would you like me to write a mock page?<br> + <div class="moz-signature">-- <br> + <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new + experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font> + </h4> + <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font> + </h5> + </div> + </body> +</html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120612/398aedbf/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120612/398aedbf/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e71594be0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120612/398aedbf/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,38 @@ +<html> + <head> + <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" + http-equiv="Content-Type"> + </head> + <body text="#009900" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> + On 06/12/2012 07:15 PM, Romain d'Alverny wrote: + <blockquote +cite="mid:CANa9xwse0VjwciOn3-_6sTnwXRyxFJMBiqDJfVzH1TM4o3uT8A@mail.gmail.com" + type="cite"> + <blockquote type="cite"> + <pre wrap="">The one of these that I felt could really use some urgent attention is +Wikipedia. [...] +If perhaps someone either from this team or maybe the document team +has some approved language I could write a proposal for a Wikipedia update. +</pre> + </blockquote> + <pre wrap=""> +What do you suggest to write? +_______________________________________________ +Mageia-marketing mailing list +<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a> +<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a> +</pre> + </blockquote> + I was thinking mostly just about expanding on features, mission, + community, etc. I'm going through the archives now, but I am + looking to see where I can currently be of the most help while my + workload is lighter. Would you like me to write a mock page?<br> + <div class="moz-signature">-- <br> + <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new + experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font> + </h4> + <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font> + </h5> + </div> + </body> +</html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120612/40a33af0/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120612/40a33af0/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..11157a82f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120612/40a33af0/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,132 @@ +<html> + <head> + <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" + http-equiv="Content-Type"> + </head> + <body text="#009900" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> + On 06/09/2012 12:27 PM, Romain d'Alverny wrote: + <blockquote +cite="mid:CANa9xwtG=A5L6HKxBeGiaU38myW1=8g8C6P68xX1RY0nL0ZLKA@mail.gmail.com" + type="cite"> + <pre wrap="">Hi everyone, (xposted on -marketing, -artwork and -webteam; if +possible, please follow-up in -marketing) + +So here's the plan (actually, that's a suggestion of a plan): + - we make a new team; which role is to think, design, produce and +maintain the identity of the project and its declinations in messages, +graphics, Web and print [1]; + - this team is named "atelier"; + - a new mailing-list is open for that; + - it practically merges responsibilities from artwork, web and marcom teams; + - it integrates roles as diverse as: design, marketing, graphic +research and production, copy writing, web design, integration and +development, curation, etc. + - existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but +locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed; + - will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making +and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code, +graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still +welcome, but not enough to move forward; + - external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer +getting in touch/inviting a professional person to propose and work on +a specific, focused topic, from overall project identity design, down +to a specific production. It only needs to be stated within the team +first so that everyone is in sync; + - formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from +external people are made easier is a true option too (that means +things easier to grasp, understand and update); + - no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through +the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not +a must, just good to have; + - no more than 10 hours a week on Mageia. + +Questions: + - who's going to lead this? + - what's the plan up to Mageia 3? several things at least in several +regards (identity, print, web, distribution), but that will highly +depend on who lead(s) the team. + +[1] ideally, everything that's the public face of Mageia.Org, the +Mageia distribution and the Mageia project should go through this +team; that does not mean that things will not be flexible, but if +there's one place to discuss, document and synchronize all this work, +it's here. That, in turn, requires some responsiveness and initiative +from the team members. +_______________________________________________an +Mageia-marketing mailing list +<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a> +<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a> +</pre> + </blockquote> + <font face="Utopia">Sounds good to me. I would like to take on some + work especially concerning Marketing where it appears that we're + especially thin here. I feel that although the distrowatch + page-hits are high, there is not nearly enough of an overall web + presence. I think that Mageia has an especially good potential to + poach Ubunt/Mint users but the buzz just isn't there. I t</font>ried + + + to add some sites to the list in sandbox, but was denied + permission. Here are some sites I found:<br> + <br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" + href="http://www.lifehacker.com/">http://www.lifehacker.com/</a> + Gawkers tech blog. Allot of entry level Linux users<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" + href="http://linux.slashdot.org/">http://linux.slashdot.org/</a> + /EN - Very well known IT Blog<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" + href="http://www.desktoplinuxreviews.com">http://www.desktoplinuxreviews.com</a> + /EN Linux reviews<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" + href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com</a> + /EN Linux/Informational<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.linuxbsdos.com">http://www.linuxbsdos.com</a> + /EN Linux Reviews<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" + href="https://www.linuxquestions.org">https://www.linuxquestions.org</a> + / Linux/Informational<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" + href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia</a><br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.techradar.com">http://www.techradar.com</a> + /EN Tech News & Info<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.gnu.org">https://www.gnu.org</a> + /EN<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" + href="http://www.linuxbasis.com/distributions.html">http://www.linuxbasis.com/distributions.html</a> + /EN<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dedoimedo.com">http://www.dedoimedo.com</a> + /EN<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" + href="http://www.linuxinsider.com">http://www.linuxinsider.com</a> + /EN<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" + href="http://www.linuxjournal.com">http://www.linuxjournal.com</a> + /EN<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://linuxos.pro">http://linuxos.pro</a> + /EN<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" + href="http://www.thisweekinlinux.com">http://www.thisweekinlinux.com</a> + /EN<br> + <br> + The one of these that I felt could really use some urgent attention + is Wikipedia. I know this committee/team is in a state of flux with + the merge and all but every day that goes by is a day further away + from its' release. I have my main contract winding down here so I + have some extra time. If perhaps someone either from this team or + maybe the document team has some approved language I could write a + proposal for a Wikipedia update. Let me know what everyone thinks.<br> + <br> + Kind Regards,<br> + <br> + Digigold<br> + <br> + <div class="moz-signature">--<br> + <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new + experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font> + </h4> + <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font> + </h5> + </div> + </body> +</html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120612/40a33af0/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120612/40a33af0/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..11157a82f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120612/40a33af0/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,132 @@ +<html> + <head> + <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" + http-equiv="Content-Type"> + </head> + <body text="#009900" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> + On 06/09/2012 12:27 PM, Romain d'Alverny wrote: + <blockquote +cite="mid:CANa9xwtG=A5L6HKxBeGiaU38myW1=8g8C6P68xX1RY0nL0ZLKA@mail.gmail.com" + type="cite"> + <pre wrap="">Hi everyone, (xposted on -marketing, -artwork and -webteam; if +possible, please follow-up in -marketing) + +So here's the plan (actually, that's a suggestion of a plan): + - we make a new team; which role is to think, design, produce and +maintain the identity of the project and its declinations in messages, +graphics, Web and print [1]; + - this team is named "atelier"; + - a new mailing-list is open for that; + - it practically merges responsibilities from artwork, web and marcom teams; + - it integrates roles as diverse as: design, marketing, graphic +research and production, copy writing, web design, integration and +development, curation, etc. + - existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but +locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed; + - will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making +and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code, +graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still +welcome, but not enough to move forward; + - external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer +getting in touch/inviting a professional person to propose and work on +a specific, focused topic, from overall project identity design, down +to a specific production. It only needs to be stated within the team +first so that everyone is in sync; + - formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from +external people are made easier is a true option too (that means +things easier to grasp, understand and update); + - no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through +the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not +a must, just good to have; + - no more than 10 hours a week on Mageia. + +Questions: + - who's going to lead this? + - what's the plan up to Mageia 3? several things at least in several +regards (identity, print, web, distribution), but that will highly +depend on who lead(s) the team. + +[1] ideally, everything that's the public face of Mageia.Org, the +Mageia distribution and the Mageia project should go through this +team; that does not mean that things will not be flexible, but if +there's one place to discuss, document and synchronize all this work, +it's here. That, in turn, requires some responsiveness and initiative +from the team members. +_______________________________________________an +Mageia-marketing mailing list +<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a> +<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a> +</pre> + </blockquote> + <font face="Utopia">Sounds good to me. I would like to take on some + work especially concerning Marketing where it appears that we're + especially thin here. I feel that although the distrowatch + page-hits are high, there is not nearly enough of an overall web + presence. I think that Mageia has an especially good potential to + poach Ubunt/Mint users but the buzz just isn't there. I t</font>ried + + + to add some sites to the list in sandbox, but was denied + permission. Here are some sites I found:<br> + <br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" + href="http://www.lifehacker.com/">http://www.lifehacker.com/</a> + Gawkers tech blog. Allot of entry level Linux users<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" + href="http://linux.slashdot.org/">http://linux.slashdot.org/</a> + /EN - Very well known IT Blog<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" + href="http://www.desktoplinuxreviews.com">http://www.desktoplinuxreviews.com</a> + /EN Linux reviews<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" + href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com</a> + /EN Linux/Informational<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.linuxbsdos.com">http://www.linuxbsdos.com</a> + /EN Linux Reviews<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" + href="https://www.linuxquestions.org">https://www.linuxquestions.org</a> + / Linux/Informational<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" + href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia</a><br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.techradar.com">http://www.techradar.com</a> + /EN Tech News & Info<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.gnu.org">https://www.gnu.org</a> + /EN<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" + href="http://www.linuxbasis.com/distributions.html">http://www.linuxbasis.com/distributions.html</a> + /EN<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dedoimedo.com">http://www.dedoimedo.com</a> + /EN<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" + href="http://www.linuxinsider.com">http://www.linuxinsider.com</a> + /EN<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" + href="http://www.linuxjournal.com">http://www.linuxjournal.com</a> + /EN<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://linuxos.pro">http://linuxos.pro</a> + /EN<br> + * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" + href="http://www.thisweekinlinux.com">http://www.thisweekinlinux.com</a> + /EN<br> + <br> + The one of these that I felt could really use some urgent attention + is Wikipedia. I know this committee/team is in a state of flux with + the merge and all but every day that goes by is a day further away + from its' release. I have my main contract winding down here so I + have some extra time. If perhaps someone either from this team or + maybe the document team has some approved language I could write a + proposal for a Wikipedia update. Let me know what everyone thinks.<br> + <br> + Kind Regards,<br> + <br> + Digigold<br> + <br> + <div class="moz-signature">--<br> + <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new + experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font> + </h4> + <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font> + </h5> + </div> + </body> +</html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120612/5e9a222f/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120612/5e9a222f/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5ca8c4891 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120612/5e9a222f/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,8 @@ +<div dir="ltr"><blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">We should probably leave this discussion for now and focus on founding<br></blockquote> +<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +the new group.<br><br></blockquote><div><br>I agree.<br>The way I see it we should have one group (never mind the name) with three virtual task forces.<br>The task forces will not be real, just a sort of legacy issue for people from the old teams to have some initial direction in the new team. Ideally, everybody will contribute where he or she can.<br> +These three virtual task forces should, however, have a real coordinator. One person who is in charge of looking out for a specific field. Aside from that there should be a team leader, who should be one of the task force leaders.<br> +This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure: Someone willing to work on web design or a marketing poster or whatnot turns to the appropriate task coordinator. He or she then discusses with the other two what needs to be done for this by which task force, then one of these three (it doesn't really matter who) propagates that information back down to everybody else.<br> +It will work the same way in reverse. The three coordinators come up with the final list of things that need to be done for Mga3 (with considerable input and discussion from everybody, of course) and then coordinate the tasks.<br> +I think that this allows for maximum communication and we don't end up with the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.<br>Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come up with their own ideas, plans, projects and whatnot and then act upon them as part of the group. Even if in the end they are working alone, the whole group is aware of what is going on.<br> +</div></div></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120612/5e9a222f/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120612/5e9a222f/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5ca8c4891 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120612/5e9a222f/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,8 @@ +<div dir="ltr"><blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">We should probably leave this discussion for now and focus on founding<br></blockquote> +<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +the new group.<br><br></blockquote><div><br>I agree.<br>The way I see it we should have one group (never mind the name) with three virtual task forces.<br>The task forces will not be real, just a sort of legacy issue for people from the old teams to have some initial direction in the new team. Ideally, everybody will contribute where he or she can.<br> +These three virtual task forces should, however, have a real coordinator. One person who is in charge of looking out for a specific field. Aside from that there should be a team leader, who should be one of the task force leaders.<br> +This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure: Someone willing to work on web design or a marketing poster or whatnot turns to the appropriate task coordinator. He or she then discusses with the other two what needs to be done for this by which task force, then one of these three (it doesn't really matter who) propagates that information back down to everybody else.<br> +It will work the same way in reverse. The three coordinators come up with the final list of things that need to be done for Mga3 (with considerable input and discussion from everybody, of course) and then coordinate the tasks.<br> +I think that this allows for maximum communication and we don't end up with the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.<br>Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come up with their own ideas, plans, projects and whatnot and then act upon them as part of the group. Even if in the end they are working alone, the whole group is aware of what is going on.<br> +</div></div></div> |