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Thornton</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20%5BMageia-artwork%5D%20Splash%20screens%20ready&In-Reply-To=%3C4F5E1A71.6030506%40NorthTech.US%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready">Bradley at NorthTech.US + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Mar 12 16:46:57 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000586.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000580.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#587">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#587">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#587">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#587">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: RIPEMD160 + + + +On 03/12/2012 06:34 AM, Max Quarterpleen wrote: + +><i> And then Esteban showed up with a magical external solution which was very +</I>><i> good, but very bad for the teams. +</I> +And he paid for that with what must have seemed to him like, "The brush +off". + +I think the thing that seemed to be the most harmful was what still +seems to be the decision of one person (you) in selecting the product +pack of images. + +For a minute there I was certain that I had missed some mails expressing +the preference of a different set of images over that of Esteban's, but +I didn't. And the Marcom Team didn't actually choose the other graphics +over that of Esteban's, as you seemingly inferred in your last post +(Maybe that did happen on the artwork team list, but if it didn't happen +on this list then it wasn't the MarCom Team). + + +><i> I tried to do what I thought would be best for Mageia in general, and the +</I>><i> artwork team in particular in the long run. If that makes me a dick, fine. +</I>><i> I didn't set out to be a dick and had only the best intentions. I still +</I>><i> think that what I did is better for Mageia, and given the opportunity I +</I>><i> would do it again, but it wouldn't be any easier. +</I> +It was a mistake in judgment perhaps, but certainly not a murder or +armed robbery LOL! Should you feel bad? Well, maybe you will consider +sending Esteban a private email explaining this - that the promising +graphics he seemed to just *whip up* might crush the morale of a team +that has been performing well below what you expected, and therefore, +you decided to throw him under the bus for their sake (Maybe you should +tell them how you feel too). + +What you're saying isn't actually evil Max. It was a painful business +decision to let the artwork team demonstrate and validate their worth, +and just as they were coming through, as you indicated, someone popped +up out of the blue (almost), and made small work of it. + +And yes, that could look bad. But if I'm not mistaken, Esteban's artwork +did come in at or maybe one day after the deadline for the freeze. + +The worst decision you could have made as team lead it IMO, would be to +not make a decision at all. + +That having been said, it seems you still have a lot of *post freeze* +work to do on the artwork. + +But again, the thing that disturbs me isn't so much that this occurred, +but that the decision wasn't actually a team product at all, but the +decision of a single individual - an individual who cited those reasons +for not considering the newcomer's works. + +><i> I'm very sorry that Esteban feels this way, that was entirely not my +</I>><i> intention. In fact, I was up for over an hour last night (actually very +</I>><i> early this morning) agonizing over that email, trying my best *not *to +</I>><i> sound like a dick. I guess I failed there. +</I> +I'm sure your intentions were honorable. And they seem honorable - you +acted on behalf of a team of people who needed some sort of validation +for the welfare of that team. + +Now please consider seeing if you can't patch things up with Esteban - +I've got a gut feeling that he'll become a great asset and motivating +force on your team :) + +><i> +</I>><i> Now, I am not going to resign in a huff and storm off, because that would +</I> +Of course not. Besides, I don't think you would want to lose your +medical and dental insurance ;) + +><i> be even worse. I don't know what I will do, but I'm open to suggestions. +</I> +Well, right now you're going to have to get some copy folded into the +artwork you[r team] chose to go forward with :) + +I figure Trish will have some final copy for your team in a few hours +following a suggestion period by anyone else here. + +My gravest concern remains - that the textual verbiage and the visual +concepts aren't being developed congruently in a complimentary manner +(we're pasting up). + +In the meantime don't sweat it - we're all Diks at times when we're +frustrated, exhausted, and overworked. Coming to terms with that is all +we can do and then we move on - we've got a product launch to ready :) + +Oh, and please stop cross-posting! It bugs me and borks my mail filters. +Sending separate duplicate messages to each list keeps the mail client +(and Bradley) happy :) + +Kindest regards, + + +- -- +Bradley D. 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