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+ <B>Anne Nicolas</B>
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+<PRE>Le 02/04/2012 10:32, Max Quarterpleen a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">ennael at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/4/2 Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for the very quick answer
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Installer images: Sad to say that little progress has been made.
+</I>&gt;<i> We have
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; some ideas, but no feedback and no actual images. Yet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If needed let's have a meeting. This is going nowhere even if you all
+</I>&gt;<i> have good ideas. We need to get a result now
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm going to see if we can schedule an impromptu meeting before
+</I>&gt;<i> Wednesday to discuss this and start work done, and then another on
+</I>&gt;<i> Wednesday.
+</I>
+After thinking about all this, we will stop here work on the installer
+images. Time is too short and discussion is going nowhere for now.
+Having one more meeting would not go anywhere. We had a planning and we
+are already very far from it. I will use screenshots for it and we will
+have to review together this kind of process to make it work for Mageia 3.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Backgrounds: We were discussing where to put the Mageia logo in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; background images and have nearly reached a consensus. Schultz has
+</I>&gt;<i> already
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; made several images with different resolutions. As soon as we know
+</I>&gt;<i> where and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; how to put the logo we will.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please go on. RC is planned in 1 week and all artwork should be
+</I>&gt;<i> integrated
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So far it looks like people like the logo with a drop shadow in the
+</I>&gt;<i> bottom-right corner of the screen. Anne, please have a look and make
+</I>&gt;<i> sure that this does not violate the logo rules:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mediafire.com/?uo3yah8myxpa1j5">http://www.mediafire.com/?uo3yah8myxpa1j5</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> If that is OK we'll start putting the logo in the different resolutions,
+</I>&gt;<i> making sure that it fits nicely in the KDE environment (GNOME and XFCE
+</I>&gt;<i> are less of a problem in this regard).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Boot: Schultz said he would be working on that, I don't know
+</I>&gt;<i> exactly how
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; much progress he has made.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Schultz, any input on this ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>
+
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+<PRE>On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Anne Nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Le 02/04/2012 10:32, Max Quarterpleen a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">ennael at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2012/4/2 Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thanks for the very quick answer
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Installer images: Sad to say that little progress has been made.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We have
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; some ideas, but no feedback and no actual images. Yet.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If needed let's have a meeting. This is going nowhere even if you all
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; have good ideas. We need to get a result now
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm going to see if we can schedule an impromptu meeting before
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Wednesday to discuss this and start work done, and then another on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Wednesday.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After thinking about all this, we will stop here work on the installer
+</I>&gt;<i> images. Time is too short and discussion is going nowhere for now.
+</I>&gt;<i> Having one more meeting would not go anywhere. We had a planning and we
+</I>&gt;<i> are already very far from it. I will use screenshots for it and we will
+</I>&gt;<i> have to review together this kind of process to make it work for Mageia 3.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+*sigh*
+You're right. I sort of wish we had gotten our act together sooner. Oh
+well, live and learn. We'll do better for Mga3.
+
+Also, about my last comment about the logo in the background. I think I
+should clarify: the logo as it is is both visible and unobtrusive. It
+clearly brands the image as part of Mageia and doesn't attract too much
+attention to itself, allowing people to view the image unencumbered.
+My question was more about the use of the shadow behind the logo (which
+helps it stand out but not so much that it pokes you in the eye). Is that
+OK as far as not changing the logo is concerned?
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Backgrounds: We were discussing where to put the Mageia logo in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; background images and have nearly reached a consensus. Schultz has
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; already
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; made several images with different resolutions. As soon as we know
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; where and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; how to put the logo we will.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Please go on. RC is planned in 1 week and all artwork should be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; integrated
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So far it looks like people like the logo with a drop shadow in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; bottom-right corner of the screen. Anne, please have a look and make
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; sure that this does not violate the logo rules:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.mediafire.com/?uo3yah8myxpa1j5">http://www.mediafire.com/?uo3yah8myxpa1j5</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If that is OK we'll start putting the logo in the different resolutions,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; making sure that it fits nicely in the KDE environment (GNOME and XFCE
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; are less of a problem in this regard).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Boot: Schultz said he would be working on that, I don't know
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; exactly how
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; much progress he has made.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Schultz, any input on this ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
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+<PRE>Hi folks,
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+Please look at Max's new backgrounds and vote for one logo:
+
+Begin forwarded message:
+
+Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 23:22:32 +0300
+From: Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia artwork discussion and work list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Subject: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+
+
+Hi everybody.
+We've pretty much all agreed (or at least, everybody who has bothered to
+respond agreed) that we are going to go with the logo in the bottom
+right corner with the more prominent shadow, the drop-shadow.
+Now, some people thought that it still isn't very visible. I personally
+think it looks great, but I am only one person.
+So, I mad two more mockups: a greyscale logo and a white logo. (I tried
+a black logo and it was just awful).
+Grayscale: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg</A>
+White: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg</A>
+Natural: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg</A>
+Please disregard JPEG artifacts, we will distribute the images as PNGs.
+Please respond with your thoughts.
+Again, the final position of the logo will depend on the resolution of
+the image so that it won't interfere with the KDE taskbar.
+Max
+
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+&gt;<i> Grayscale: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> White: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Natural: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg</A>
+</I>
+Natural or Grayscale for me.
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+&gt;<i> &gt; Grayscale: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; White: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Natural: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Natural or Grayscale for me.
+</I>
+Probably best to forward your vote to artwork, to make sure Max sees it.
+
+Cheers,
+
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+&gt;<i> Hi Seb,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Grayscale: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> White: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Natural: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Natural or Grayscale for me.
+</I>&gt;<i> Probably best to forward your vote to artwork, to make sure Max sees it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>
+Yep already done a email to the artwork mailing list after the one I
+sent here, to do with the backgrounds. Thanks for the suggestion though.
+
+Sebastian sebsebseb
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+
+I am replying later than intended.
+
+A newsletter is an ok idea, but I think a free PDF magazine for people
+to download with a new issue each month, would be a much better idea in
+the future, when our community is big enough. Something like
+<A HREF="http://pclosmag.com/">http://pclosmag.com/</A> and <A HREF="http://fullcirclemagazine.org">http://fullcirclemagazine.org</A> ,but aimed at
+Mageia users and potential Mageia users.
+
+Full Circle Magazine also has a podcast, and having an official podcast
+for Mageia I think is a great idea. Unfortunately I don't have someone
+else to do one with at the moment, and I don't want to try and start one
+on my own. Also my idea for how I would want the podcast to be like,
+isn't really going to work unless there are enough people who would like
+to come on as a guest. Ideally I would want most episodes to have a
+guest. A guest who is a Mageia contributor, or just a user that would
+like to share their story about why they are using Mageia and what they
+think of it.
+
+I will be going on three or two podcasts to talk about Mageia 2 :).
+Possibly more even if other people would like me on theirs.
+
+I assume at the moment with the magazine idea just like with the Mageia
+podcast idea, currently lacking the helpers. However starting off with a
+weekly or monthly news letter would probably be much easier at the moment.
+
+With certain Mageia related projects, it really will help to have enough
+people first that would like to help with the project. Hopefully Mageia
+2 will bring in a lot of new contributors :).
+
+As for websites, I think that in general the more websites that mention
+Mageia in a positive way the better for the project :).
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+On 03/30/2012 12:59 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 04:51, Josh King (dotmil) &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What I do have is some ideas I would like feedback and comments on before we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have another mageiapeople.org fiasco.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why do you call it a fiasco?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1) a newsletter [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2) A Mageia news site. [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To be short; these are good ideas;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+&gt;<i> and if you can find the right platform and people to set it up and
+</I>&gt;<i> maintain it as a news site, then why not.
+</I>
+Because it may be that either:
+
+1.) There wasn't enough access, or interest in that particular
+incarnation of those earlier prototyped concepts, or
+
+2.) We haven't stumbled across the formula with the right zeal and
+appeal that we're all looking for.
+
+Yes I think we may want to take a look at those all but abandoned
+vehicles, but also think that we shouldn't try to force the mold. These
+parts of our infrastructure were launched way back before Before Beta 1
+IIRC, and if their relative failure is a result of #2 above, then we may
+want to keep looking for something that appeals more to ????
+
+For example, our original forums were based on FudForum, software I
+particularly like for some projects, and not for others. They were
+basically buried within a free hosting solution, which wasn't
+acceptable, but no attempts were made to migrate any of the discussions
+to the current forums, and no links were provided when we finally did
+settle on the forumware we are using now.
+
+I would like to avoid beginning to move forward with real and exciting
+content, forced into a software solution that will simply prove once
+more, that it is for whatever reason unsuitable for our purposes. I'm
+not saying that what we already have is unsuitable, just that we need to
+think, and brainstorm, and sandbox without restriction until we all go,
+&quot;Hey that's pretty bitchen! Let's use that&quot;.
+
+I don't get the whole &quot;Planet&quot; thing. never did. But really, anything
+ewboontoo leaves a bad taste in my mouth anyway, and we're really trying
+to set ourselves apart from others anyway.
+
+in an earlier post, (and I think this was you Romain, who pointed it
+out), there needs to be some style applied to planet.mageia.org. This is
+going to require the coordination of MarCom w/the web development team
+along with the artwork team in order to accomplish, and there's really
+no point in even pursuing that until Trish is provided with the
+credentials so that she can delegate administration of this resource to
+members of the team here.
+
+It is pretty bland, and ugly, compared to the news and blog sites of
+other distros - even when compared to the minimalist approach used by
+debian GNU/Linux.
+
+Let's get these credentials to Trish, stop this nonsense with the
+infinite transferring of extension to extension, and get on with it.
+
+In the meantime, if we add content to the forward face of Mageia, let's
+make sure we can abandon the software at anytime and fold that content
+into software that in the future we may find more conducive to our needs.
+
+It was a fiasco, because there was no response, little direction, and
+ambiguous command and control related to the administration of this
+so-called *existing* infrastructure. The initiative that Josh and
+Sebastian showed in this was, albeit politely, shot down because we
+currently have an existing, yet perhaps inferior software service in
+place, for some of what we're talking about.
+
+Like Josh indicated, an SQL dump of the MariaDB database and a push from
+whatever RCS he used to deploy his POC beta is simple enough to migrate
+to a VirtualHost container under Mageia.org's HTTPD farm.
+
+heh. We do incorporate *MariaDB* INSTEAD of *MySQL*, don't we? LOL! Or
+are we using EllisonCo software, missing yet another opportunity to set
+ourselves apart from other Linux distros? ;)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
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+On 03/30/2012 11:10 AM, Josh King (dotmil) wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 03/28/2012 11:00 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Josh,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To admin the planet, all that is needed in the password for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/admin/login.php">http://planet.mageia.org/en/admin/login.php</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I was told marcom had this? Is this true?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think you need to talk to Dams, Damien Lallement:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia at damsweb.net</A>&gt;, or coincoin on IRC.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Still no response on this. Will keep you updated, but all we need is the
+</I>&gt;<i> admin password for moonmoon and I can take it from there. Patricia, if
+</I>&gt;<i> nothing is heard back can you bring this up at the next council meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> perhaps?
+</I>
+Yes there's definately a breakdown somewhere. Thanks for your diligence
+in this matter Josh.
+
+Trish, I think we really do need to bring this up at the next council
+meeting.
+
+I'm sure that if there was adequate coordination on issues such as this,
+Josh wouldn't have had to self-host, and from what I have been able to
+ascertain he would have preferred to move forward under the magiea.org
+domain anyway.
+
+I'm rather surprised he hasn't thrown his hands up and said, &quot;whatev&quot;,
+already.
+
+Hang in there Josh There's something broken in the community's
+communication infrastructure and we may be forging ahead with arbitrary
+technological and production deadlines at the expense of a quality
+*community*.
+
+This is Open Source - there really is no real timeline; simply goals
+that currently push for product releases at the expense of coordinated
+efforts.
+
+Most people here know that I'm a Slacker, having used that distro since
+it's inception, and there's a lesson to be learned there: &quot;The next
+release of Slackware will be released when it's ready&quot;, is almost a
+mantra for a reason.
+
+Things mature in their own time. We can set goals and artificial
+deadlines (most deadlines in the world, with the exception of court
+dates, are indeed artificial), but we should be willing and able to
+adjust those dates based upon the *smoothly acheived* deadlines, derived
+from the self-imposed goals we set for such events to occur.
+
+I hope that helps :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
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+On 03/17/2012 06:29 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Bradley,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hopefully you're feeling completely recovered!
+</I>
+Thank you so much for your well wishes Trish :) Thanks to Sebastian and
+others too who expressed empathy. The major invasive stuff is completed,
+and I don't think I have to endure anymore grinding.
+
+I have an appt tomorrow LOL, so we'll see, but certainly nothing like
+what I went through the last time. The cutting is done, now for the
+paste, so to speak :)
+
+But I digress. Getting back on topic.
+
+I've been reading, lurking, flagging, and compiling sites to include on
+the wiki in the meantime.
+
+The level of noise on the list as such that no sooner did I turn around
+then we had about fifty new posts on the copy for the install screens on
+the list here, and it fatigued me, having to ask myself why people
+either weren't paying attention to what had transpired or consulted the
+archives, as rda correctly requested that people do in the future.
+
+Oh, how many pages of install screens do we have? (Joking, of course). I
+found that funny because there were no less than four times that
+question was asked by different folks lol ;)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There's a few contact points I can add to the notification list. I'll
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dig those up over the next couple of weeks, and Trish, if you can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shoot me on over any scraps of dangling release announcement copy to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> add to my scratch pad that would be nice to have as a reference too.
+</I>
+Quoting myself here, but before I put up any of these on the wiki I need
+some clarification/direction on the matter.
+
+We have a budget. And some of these sites are not free (Nor should we
+expect them to be). Some of the sites have *some* free services, and
+some are actually free.
+
+Each has varying targets.
+
+We spent around $2500.00 on stickers and such, so I can't imagine that
+an allocation of say, ten percent of that would be asking too much to
+earmark for MarCom's budget in this regard.
+
+I need to hear back whether we're going to have this support and that
+there is a potential to release this *neccessary* funding for us.
+
+If we can spend ten times this amount of stickers and t-shirts, then I
+believe it is prudent to allocate the pittance I'm asking for to reach
+millions in the mainstream - not just a few hundred or so at a couple of
+conventions.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't have any copy, alas, but we need to get three general things
+</I>&gt;<i> started:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. the Mageia blog post for release
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. a generic release announcement/press release for distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. interviews with people who use Mageia, and/or solicited reviews -
+</I>&gt;<i> for these, we need to get together a list of the kinds of questions
+</I>&gt;<i> people would like answers to.
+</I>
+Okay Trish has hit the nail on the head with respect to the priorities
+we should be focusing on above. Let's move off the infinite loop of the
+install screens now that it's a dead issue for the time being and take
+up the reigns of the tasks above that Trish has laid out for us :)
+
+wrt 1.) I think perhaps a good way to start is to get from Anne, an
+example of an announcement that she, as our spokesperson, might issue.
+
+We can nip in the butt any possibility that we'll be caught off guard
+again and embarrassed, by taking this proposed sample statement that she
+envisions releasing, fixing it, and then, as her teleprompter returning
+it as the statement we actually ARE going to issue.
+
+2.) This I've addressed above. I want to know what our budget is going
+to be, and zero is not acceptable considering the monies spent on
+schwag, that I pointed out above (Nothing wrong with scwhag, but I don't
+recall that marketing expense ever coming through our team for approval,
+nod, consensus, etc.).
+
+3.) Very good milestone to achieve. How might we &quot;solicit reviews&quot;, and
+what are many of the questions we're seeing on the forums that we can
+draw from for this, aside from...
+
+&quot;What sets Mageia apart from other major Linux distros?&quot; That's question
+number one IMO :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
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+On 03/30/2012 05:10 AM, Josh King (dotmil) wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On a different note, the news site look to be different enough from the
+</I>
+I would call this OT, as it implies what some would call a hijacked
+thread. Personally, I think that term is a little harsh, yet I do think
+your ideas in this regard would garner more notice by starting a new
+thread topic :)
+
+Regardless, I like your ideas Josh and I'm glad I took the time to read
+this one.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
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+On 03/23/2012 01:22 AM, Oliver Burger wrote:
+&gt;<i> Am 23.03.2012 01:51, schrieb Josh King (dotmil):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi All,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have a basic install of moonmoon set up and running on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org.">http://mageiapeople.org.</A> I plan to do some design work this weekend so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it's not so, well, boring looking.
+</I>
+
+
+&gt;<i> I also fail to see a reason for putting things like that up outside the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia infrastructure.
+</I>
+We have a really big problem right now. We don't even have the
+administrative credentials for the services we're in charge of.
+
+It doesn't hurt to sandbox beta technologies anyway, and if it is
+something that might fly then we can migrate to the mageia.org zone.
+
+One really good reason for putting things like that up is the complete
+lack of command and control, that I have pointed out in another post,
+with regards to sandboxing these branstorm/poc/sandboxes/betas, within
+our own DNS domain.
+
+&gt;<i> Why not discuss it in advance? You are not working in a vacuum, there is
+</I>&gt;<i> a project arround you, isn't there?
+</I>
+Yes, we are operating in a relative vacuum in that regard. unable to
+even manage our own resources, by figuring out who has the darn
+passwords for doing so.
+
+It was discussed in advance too, in chan on IRC and on this list.
+
+Considering those facts, &quot;Is there a project around him?&quot;
+
+No offense intended Oliver. I'm just pointing a big fat spotlight on
+this, presumably temporary, shortcoming of our project.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
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+On 03/19/2012 11:58 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could I ask everyone please: don't top-post replies to the list?
+</I>
+
+You Go Girl! :)
+
+I'm so glad to hear that. And I noticed that even Sebastian fired off
+his last top-post about five hours after your notice in this email ;)
+
+I'm not going to trim this post. I think it should remain so that people
+who stumble across this post of mine in the archives be able to absorb,
+via osmosis, everything else you said below.
+
+For me, I'm simply going to send directly to /dev/null, via filters,
+anyone who does top-post, as I have neither the time nor the inclination
+to endure such punishment.
+
+So if anyone thinks I'm ignoring them, I'm not. I've just filtered them
+and will only see reference to them if they are quoted inline by someone
+else.
+
+So without further ado, here's the rest of Trish's post:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As of today, I won't be doing it any more; I've always hated it, and
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm done putting up with it; I'll be trimming your replies to me
+</I>&gt;<i> ruthlessly and answering inline, and I'll explain why I'd like all of
+</I>&gt;<i> the marcom team to follow suit.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What's wrong with top-posting?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * It makes messages difficult to read when the answer comes before the
+</I>&gt;<i> question - this is important not only to the original poster and
+</I>&gt;<i> the responder, but to everyone else on the list. Not all of us are
+</I>&gt;<i> native English speakers; we have to be clear and keep the extra
+</I>&gt;<i> waffle to a minimum.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * It means the top-poster is less likely to trim (this does matter.
+</I>&gt;<i> There are still many people around the world stuck on dialup with
+</I>&gt;<i> very low data quotas), and subsequent top-posters are then also less
+</I>&gt;<i> likely to trim;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * It's going to be seen as rude on plenty of mailing lists, which is
+</I>&gt;<i> absolutely not how we want people to see Mageia's marketing reps.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please post your replies in-line, underneath the point you're
+</I>&gt;<i> replying to, and trim any parts of the original message(s) that you
+</I>&gt;<i> aren't replying to.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here's more info on the topic:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/gey_stv0.htm">http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/gey_stv0.htm</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.html-faq.com/etiquette/?toppost">http://www.html-faq.com/etiquette/?toppost</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html">http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html">http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some older than others - all useful.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>
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+On 04/02/2012 01:50 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please look at Max's new backgrounds and vote for one logo:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Begin forwarded message:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 23:22:32 +0300
+</I>&gt;<i> From: Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: Mageia artwork discussion and work list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Natural: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg</A>
+</I>
+I like this one, and find it to be the classiest, and most clever, of
+the three.
+
+I'm not a member of the artwork team and won't be subscribing to the
+list there either, but this is my personal fav if Max would like to
+consider my input.
+
+I do have another question. Perhaps it is simply another symptom of the
+ten or so posts by Josh that have served to illustrate his frustration
+with an ineffectual bureaucracy in obtaining a single uid/pwd
+combination to manage a resource that belongs to MarCom in the first place:
+
+Q: Why, when we have our own infrastructure, is the artwork team posting
+development work to imgur.com?
+
+I would think that having all three images posted on a single page on
+our wiki or a gallery under our domain would be preferable.
+
+Thanks for forwarding the post here Trish, for those of us who aren't
+subscribed to the Artwork Team's list :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
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+There are five currently agreed upon (or not) sets of copy for the
+installation screens for those who perform graphical installs of Mageia.
+
+Following Ennael's post which seemingly scraps that out of control
+juggernaut (Good call IMO), There's plenty of time to work on this for
+Mageia 2.1, Mageia 3 Beta 1, whatev :)
+
+That having been said, we keep asking ourselves about what sets Mageia
+apart from other distros (IOW, why use Mageia instead of CentOS or
+Fedora, considering that Mageia is 'yet another RPM based distro').
+
+If we all keep asking ourselves this question, and all we get back is
+one little control center app, then that is, operationally, the main
+difference isn't it (Please, flame me on this one, I really want someone
+to take enough offense to this that I hear what makes our distro
+operationally and technologically different enough to compel someone to
+adopt)?
+
+On the non-production level, we have been receiving much feedback.
+Community, Community, Community. Great? Where?
+
+Josh has attempted, along with Sebastian and a few others to address
+this issue and sandbox a few proof of concept ideas. I won't go there in
+this post, but applaud that effort and point to the fact that because
+that effort has support, that we're lacking there with respect to our
+current *community* offerings.
+
+What I would like to suggest, is that in the future, one of the screens
+direct people, post-installation, to their root user's email inbox to
+get more involved, and for further information on post-installation
+matters - you might be tired of hearing this, but we do this with Slackware.
+
+&quot;You're almost finished installing the most spectaculicious of all Linux
+distributions, but take time to check the email for root when your done
+for getting involved with the community&quot; - yeah, a bit loquacious but
+you get the idea....
+
+Once the user is finished installing they have post-installation topics,
+including an email with links to join certain aspects of the community
+(which do not as of yet really exist).
+
+Just thought I'd offer that one up while chewing on a cud of alfalfa :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
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+On 03/23/2012 01:13 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 23/03/12 17:17, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Loqo typed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just a thought: can we add the Mageia Google+ pages to the planet?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It should really be in the &quot;Mageia on the web&quot; section with Twitter,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Facebook, etc.
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The Mageia group should be there as well: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I wouldn't add google+, identi.ca or twitter rss feeds on planet. Planet
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is for blogs, not for microblogging sites. Adding g+ or identi.ca on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> planet will only polute with duplicate links to the same content.
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> There has been a misunderstanding and from more than one person it seems
+</I>&gt;<i> as well.
+</I>
+My eyes glazed over several days ago on this too.
+
+Sebastian, What I *think* I was able to understand, was your suggestion
+that everything (everything) feeds into indenti.ca, because that is the
+one route with which we can feed that has a path to feed all of the
+other social bookmarking/networking sites.
+
+Did I get that right?
+
+Can you do up a graphical flow chart that demonstrates this downstream
+effect? As MarCom, and if you're correct, we need to be able to sell the
+idea to the council and finalize this news feed concept.
+
+More than anything. I want to understand it :)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> From Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> P.S
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's a good idea to have the first letter of a name capitalised usually,
+</I>&gt;<i> at the moment the name in the Twitter link is lower cased and the name
+</I>&gt;<i> in the Facebook link as well on the planet.
+</I>
+I can't believe that no one caught this misnomer LOL.
+
+Actually, the convention is to have everything lower case, since it's an
+URL.
+
+For example, you can <A HREF="http://twitter.com/mageia">http://twitter.com/mageia</A> or
+<A HREF="http://twitter.com/Mageia">http://twitter.com/Mageia</A> or <A HREF="http://twitter.com/mAgEiA">http://twitter.com/mAgEiA</A> ;)
+
+The same goes pretty much for most Social networking and bookmarking
+sites, including FB.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
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+On 03/29/2012 07:51 PM, Josh King (dotmil) wrote:
+&gt;<i> I know everyone is busy with the installer texts and images.
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunately that's not my strong suit so I haven't had much to add.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What I do have is some ideas...
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+No aplogies, please Josh. Keep on keepin' on ;)
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+On 03/28/2012 02:05 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> Guys, please:
+</I>
+&gt;<i> - use the list archives too to know where you stand. There has been
+</I>
+Indeed.
+
+As the signal to noise ratio goes up people tend to disregard entire
+threads.
+
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+Finally! Whew!
+
+The signal to noise ratio was up by an order of magnitude, so I chose to
+layout for a while, watch, and address points of relevance when the
+traffic died down.
+
+I think most things I'm commenting on are still relevant, otherwise the
+drafts I penned would have been roundfiled (many were, since those
+issues eventually answered themselves).
+
+I really tired of having to watch the copy for the install screens
+continually revisited, and it looks like it finally came to a conclusion
+- - and I drew conclusions from that mess that I've addressed too.
+
+Most existing threads, but couple of new threads here that I'm offering,
+and some more relevant than others.
+
+Our mail server seems to historically suck pretty bad - sometimes a post
+shows up quickly, and sometimes hours later. I dunno what the other
+folks on the admin team are failing to do and I don't have access to
+troubleshoot it but there is an failing there which can stymie the
+timeliness of responses for collaborative work.
+
+Maybe I'll track down the person who has direct administration over the
+SMTP servers later and beleaguer them with my incessant badgering till
+they fix it - but not now LOL.
+
+Anyway, and in no particular order, here comes the maelstrom :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
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+On 03/25/2012 01:17 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We have 5 texts, but some people mostly me) are unhappy with them.
+</I>
+That's because, as marketing folks, we've been publishing some decent
+copy when there wasn't anything particularly relevant to produce copy for.
+
+So you're not alone there :)
+
+That lack of satisfaction comes as a result of not really having
+anything to say, while being endowed with the skill to say it anyway to
+make it seem as if there is.
+
+I offered up one, I think, relevant point (along with another
+communications vehicle - the root's inbox) to consider including in our
+next spin of Mageia.
+
+Most of the points we provided copy for are just inventive ways of
+saying we're not any different than other major distros. The Niche
+distros have no problems expressing why you should use them, while we
+haven't discovered yet what it is we should be saying.
+
+But when we do, I have confidence that we'll be able to say it with
+eloquence.
+
+Maybe we should focus on how we're different from say, debian GNU/Linux
+- - the most completely inclusive (wrt software packages) of all Linux
+distros, and the greatest success story on the power of the community in
+that collaborative regard.
+
+Right now it's hard for me to imagine how we're operationally all that
+different from Redhat.
+
+I offered up a hint in one of my posts by directing attention to
+MariaDB, hint, hint.
+
+Not to say that MariaDB should be the major SQL server in our default
+install, but to showcase the possibilities of being different (um..
+better, to be sure).
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
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+On 03/30/2011 09:18 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> Ok, htere's a quick followup and proposal to discuss. I'll forward to
+</I>&gt;<i> -discuss next week for further review, so please comment here and now
+</I>&gt;<i> already. :-p
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:31, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 DVD (32 or 64bit)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 dual arch CD
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 netinstall CD
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 LiveCD (32, 64bit, locale specific)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 Mobile (for an equivalent to Flash)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that we can explain in a download/selection page depending on the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> intended uses, with a set of default download made available in one
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> click (typically, that could be the 32bit LiveCD or dualarch CD).
+</I>
+Are these still the media spins we're going to use for Mageia 2 or have
+we expanded/diminished this list?
+
+Our offerings are going to be important to our press releases, and
+reviewers, as well as other announcements.
+
+IMO, the list above was a little lofty, redundant, or exessive in
+nature, but regardless, a definitive list of the various media spins
+we're going to throw out as ISOs or shrinkwraps needs to be part of most
+of the announcements we're going to make for the next stable release of
+Mageia.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
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+</I>&gt;<i> I do have another question. Perhaps it is simply another symptom of the
+</I>&gt;<i> ten or so posts by Josh that have served to illustrate his frustration
+</I>&gt;<i> with an ineffectual bureaucracy in obtaining a single uid/pwd
+</I>&gt;<i> combination to manage a resource that belongs to MarCom in the first place:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Q: Why, when we have our own infrastructure, is the artwork team posting
+</I>&gt;<i> development work to imgur.com?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would think that having all three images posted on a single page on
+</I>&gt;<i> our wiki or a gallery under our domain would be preferable.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+At the risk of derailing the thread: there have been many, many,
+*many*requests of the sysadmin and webadmin teams to provide artwork
+(and
+probably marcom too) with server-side storage. That has yet to happen, and
+probably won't happen before Mga2. After that we can renew our begging.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> I would think that having all three images posted on a single page on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> our wiki or a gallery under our domain would be preferable.
+</I>
+A gallery would be better here.
+
+&gt;<i> At the risk of derailing the thread: there have been many, many, many
+</I>&gt;<i> requests of the sysadmin and webadmin teams to provide artwork (and probably
+</I>&gt;<i> marcom too) with server-side storage. That has yet to happen, and probably
+</I>&gt;<i> won't happen before Mga2. After that we can renew our begging.
+</I>
+Yes. Best would be to track it in a bug, with, in it, the list of
+services/capabilities you would like to have (I thought there was a
+bug open already, but could not find it): gallery, other?
+
+In the meantime, there's a dropbox folder I believe (Patricia?).
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+&gt;<i> in an earlier post, (and I think this was you Romain, who pointed it
+</I>&gt;<i> out), there needs to be some style applied to planet.mageia.org. This is
+</I>&gt;<i> going to require the coordination of MarCom w/the web development team
+</I>&gt;<i> along with the artwork team in order to accomplish,
+</I>
+Yes. And I'm working on the moonmoon codebase to get a quick hold of
+it when it needs to be adapted, in case of.
+
+&gt;<i> and there's really
+</I>&gt;<i> no point in even pursuing that until Trish is provided with the
+</I>&gt;<i> credentials so that she can delegate administration of this resource to
+</I>&gt;<i> members of the team here.
+</I>
+Trish has the credentials (I don't, and I'm trying to get these too to
+unlock the issue further).
+
+&gt;<i> It was a fiasco, because there was no response, little direction, and
+</I>&gt;<i> ambiguous command and control related to the administration of this
+</I>&gt;<i> so-called *existing* infrastructure.
+</I>
+ - there was a response; albeit certainly not the one expected;
+ - little direction, yes; *
+ - ambiguous C&amp;C, yes;
+
+* globally, there little, if any, direction, regarding our Web
+resources at large; I'm responsible for that. Historically, I happen
+to manage www and most of its content; I welcome contributions, but
+indeed, I'd vet them, as a maintainer; Web team is sleeping, if still
+alive; that's an issue to me too, because although I have pending
+work, so far, it's still a one-man work (such as a coming redesign for
+the home page I started to draft) and it needs more directed
+discussion, and progress with actual code and production, to go
+forward. In short, it sucks for the time being.
+
+&gt;<i> The initiative that Josh and Sebastian showed in this was, albeit politely,
+</I>&gt;<i> shot down because we currently have an existing, yet perhaps inferior
+</I>&gt;<i> software service in place, for some of what we're talking about.
+</I>
+It's more that they could have had sooner access to it, yes, and that
+we need to know how to handle credential delegations (the moonmoon
+platform doesn't go for multiple user accounts for now). I'd perfectly
+go with the &quot;better apologize than ask for permission&quot; in that area,
+but that's something that must be acknowledged by everyone, and
+comparimentized, so that some aspects of the official releases (be it
+Mageia, or Web services) are not affected.
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia 1 DVD (32 or 64bit)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia 1 dual arch CD
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia 1 netinstall CD
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia 1 LiveCD (32, 64bit, locale specific)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia 1 Mobile (for an equivalent to Flash)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Are these still the media spins we're going to use for Mageia 2 or have
+</I>&gt;<i> we expanded/diminished this list?
+</I>
+No change so far, but we have no &quot;Mobile&quot; variant:
+ - DVD (32 &amp; 64bit) =&gt; full, exclusively Free Software
+ - Dual arch CD =&gt; not available yet
+ - Live CDs (32 &amp; 64bit) =&gt; in various languages pack (although we did
+not have those for the past 2/3 unstable releases, so I don't know
+where we stand)
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+On 04/03/2012 01:42 AM, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> At the risk of derailing the thread: there have been many, many,
+</I>&gt;<i> *many*requests of the sysadmin and webadmin teams to provide artwork
+</I>&gt;<i> (and
+</I>&gt;<i> probably marcom too) with server-side storage. That has yet to happen, and
+</I>&gt;<i> probably won't happen before Mga2. After that we can renew our begging.
+</I>
+hm... Well. My intent was simply to play devil's advocate with a book
+off matches, but in light of your response and Romain's....
+
+This appears to be of grave enough concern to... Well I'll just respond
+to Romain's post that followed in the other thread to keep it all in
+context by offering, I think, some welcomed news? ;)
+
+Don't touch that dial! Same Bat time, Same Bat channel :)
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+On 04/03/2012 02:25 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:37, Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 DVD (32 or 64bit)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 dual arch CD
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 netinstall CD
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 LiveCD (32, 64bit, locale specific)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 Mobile (for an equivalent to Flash)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Are these still the media spins we're going to use for Mageia 2 or have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we expanded/diminished this list?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No change so far, but we have no &quot;Mobile&quot; variant:
+</I>&gt;<i> - DVD (32 &amp; 64bit) =&gt; full, exclusively Free Software
+</I>&gt;<i> - Dual arch CD =&gt; not available yet
+</I>&gt;<i> - Live CDs (32 &amp; 64bit) =&gt; in various languages pack (although we did
+</I>&gt;<i> not have those for the past 2/3 unstable releases, so I don't know
+</I>&gt;<i> where we stand)
+</I>&gt;<i> - Wired network-based install CD (32 &amp; 64bit)
+</I>
+
+Thanks rda :) This is crucial info for our announcements, and is a good
+place to start. We can adjust for public announcements at the last
+minute when we know for sure :)
+
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+On 04/03/2012 02:10 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * globally, there little, if any, direction, regarding our Web
+</I>&gt;<i> resources at large; I'm responsible for that. Historically, I happen
+</I>&gt;<i> to manage www and most of its content; I welcome contributions, but
+</I>&gt;<i> indeed, I'd vet them, as a maintainer; Web team is sleeping, if still
+</I>&gt;<i> alive; that's an issue to me too, because although I have pending
+</I>&gt;<i> work, so far, it's still a one-man work (such as a coming redesign for
+</I>&gt;<i> the home page I started to draft) and it needs more directed
+</I>&gt;<i> discussion, and progress with actual code and production, to go
+</I>&gt;<i> forward. In short, it sucks for the time being.
+</I>
+Well then... ;) I feel your pain :)
+
+I've been a member of the sysadmin team now for oh, I dunno, maybe 15 or
+16 months or so. I haven't bothered to try and offer any of my services
+there in over a year now, however, basically because of what you and Max
+have reported in the last couple of posts.
+
+I became more than interested in MarCom primarily because of you rda. I
+suppose I could dig up the post in my personal archives somewhere but I
+won't so please forgive me for my paraphrasing of your statement.
+
+You said something to the effect of, &quot;Here on the marketing team we will
+have the unenviable opportunity to be overworked, overlooked, not
+acknowledged and contributing much of most. Welcome!&quot; (I told you my
+paraphrase wouldn't do you much justice lol).
+
+I took that as a challenge, and have put forth effort where I could, and
+also when I could. I almost folded a couple of times but decided to just
+lay out instead because there's usually an ebb and flow.
+
+I completely understand the lack of time when we have to work on other
+things for our rice and top ramen LOL. So don't beat yourself up Romain ;)
+
+Basically, what I am is a systems engineer and sysadmin. That's what
+I've been doing since ARPAnet/MILnet days. I'm also a service provider.
+
+To me, three or four days to process a request is bordering on
+negligence. We're seeing three and four months here. It takes litterally
+45 seconds to create a user account, another minute to create a database
+for that person and three or four minutes to create a VirtualHost
+container so they can SSH in, do their work, upload their stuff, and
+dance around in ecstasy.
+
+I had no idea that even Max, being a Team Lead, was having such... Well
+I can't even begin to imagine his frustration - it far exceeds what
+we've been seeing here at MarCom. At least our team itself is pretty good :)
+
+So what I think *might* help alleviate some of the problems here, at
+least wrt prototyping and sandboxing, etc., would be to offer to deploy
+a Mageia box for such purposes.
+
+The only thing that would be left *wanting* is for whomever handles the
+DNS to add an A RR here and there.
+
+I would recommend that All development of the sort that Josh has been
+doing adhere to a standard convention like agile or whatev, although I
+could really care less and people could actually fly by the seat of
+their pants.
+
+What I mean by that is that it is prudent, to have development take
+place on a desktop or home server, and then push everything up with git
+and similar RCS tools to, let's call it a staging box that I launch for
+MarCom.
+
+I would give the root credentials to you and/or Trish, and aside from
+snapshotting it, will take no part in administration of this box. My
+stuff is in a private suite in One Wilshire, all storage is on a SAN
+cluster, and so far I run a 100% Proliant network farm - no commodity boxes.
+
+I've owned my own IP blocks for twenty years that were given to me by
+nic.ddn.mil back in my MILnet days and command my own reverse DNS
+directly at ARIN.
+
+At this time I can deploy a box under ESXi 5 - fully HA fault tolerant
+and clustered. For what we need I figure 512MB RAM and a couple of Xeon
+cores will suffice - I can make adjustments where necessary but for a
+web and database server that should be more than enough unless a bunch
+of people are running Eclipse or Netbeans or something.
+
+No ircd stuff or problematic daemons like that at this time please.
+Anything not mentioned just lemme know and I'll prolly give it a nod as
+long as it isn't something that script kiddies like to roll around in.
+
+If more types of database servers are needed I may need to bump the RAM
+a bit if traffic gets heavy, but it should be fine for MariaDB/MySQL,
+PostgreSQL, and maybe even Sybase or Oracle 9i all at the same time - I
+have noncom free licenses for the latter two if anyone needs to run
+stuff that off the wall.
+
+I would prefer to wait a couple or three weeks and then deploy it under
+Xen, which would completely remove me from the loop, provide you with a
+virtual serial console, and you would be responsible for all
+backups/snapshots yourself.
+
+If the need is urgent I could deploy the machine under VMware, but I
+will have to do the install myself and turn over the root pwd to you.
+
+If we can wait a couple of weeks I can simply provide you with the
+customer portal credentials where you can manage this server, do one
+click backups, destroy/reinstall from various distros (yes Mageia is one
+of them and presumably the one we want to run Mageia related stuff
+under), start/stop the box, etc.
+
+The reason we would need to wait a couple of weeks for the Xen is
+because at the moment, I have no stock. my stuff is in pretty high
+demand and I'm sitting on three new Proliant's that I have to configure
+the iLO for and then take then down to the datacenter and rack them.
+Then I have to enable the stock in inventory.
+
+I will do no firewalling. That's up to you, and you know what the big
+bad world is like out there.
+
+Personally, on all of my own machinery, you can't even FTP - only SCP or
+SFTP, often to obscure port numbers, but it's all just the same thing if
+you use Dreamweaver, Filezilla, Bluefish, whatev. I also usually enable
+X11-Forwarding so a simple 'ssh -Y box.sld.tld' will usually suffice to
+run whichever GUI apps that one really needs on the box.
+
+I would offer to do more, launch a box, harden it, administer security
+and access, etc., but given the cold shoulder I got when I joined the
+sysadmin team almost a year and a half ago I figure they should be
+accountable for something.
+
+If that works out, bear in mind I have unlimited bandwidth, unlimited
+resources once I allocate them, and PB's of SAN storage.
+
+Oh, one other thing. More than anything I was making a suggestion as to
+MariaDB to be the default INSTEAD of MySQL - no one can tell the
+difference anyway, except that the prompt is different and it runs
+circles around MySQL - it's the same thing by the same guy, but I
+suppose that's a matter for the council and packaging team to deliberate
+(Just thought I'd throw that bone out there :) ).
+
+Well, think on that. And if it's something that will benefit the
+community I'm more than happy to provide it. Sorry I can't be much help
+with the actual web design stuff, I wish my CSS and javascript was better.
+
+This would enable people to have sandboxes or prototype/poc stuff
+without burdening the main Mageia server resources (Mine are I'm sure
+more robust anyway). Whoever holds root though, I EXPECT that they will
+be responsible when it comes to DR and security, as well as the creation
+of DBs and VirtualHost containers and non-priv'd user accounts so those
+who need to can sandbox.
+
+I'm sorry I'm not offering more in the way of actually managing the box
+for the community, hardening, and taking on a more active management
+role with it, but I just don't see the responsiveness from other parts
+of the community that I would require to take on that role, let alone
+the responsibility - Max, Josh, you, and others are expressing a lot of
+frustration there and I'm just not willing to put in that much work w/o
+knowing it will actually be utilized.
+
+Lemme know. Or if you have any thoughts on the matter, since this is an
+open ended offer take your time and moll it around with a few other
+(responsible and reactive) folks in the appropriate places before
+getting back to me. On or offlist.
+
+tallship now removes removes his SA hat and puts his MarCom hat back on
+coz it's fun and challenging and outside his comfort zone :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> &gt; and there's really
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; no point in even pursuing that until Trish is provided with the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; credentials so that she can delegate administration of this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; resource to members of the team here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish has the credentials (I don't, and I'm trying to get these too to
+</I>&gt;<i> unlock the issue further).
+</I>
+Um, not yet. Dams is doing something about it for Josh at the moment,
+but it ain't done yet.
+
+Bradley, how nice to see you come back to life! I'll get some responses
+going shortly.
+
+Cheers,
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> &gt; At the risk of derailing the thread: there have been many, many,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; many requests of the sysadmin and webadmin teams to provide artwork
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (and probably marcom too) with server-side storage. That has yet to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; happen, and probably won't happen before Mga2. After that we can
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; renew our begging.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes. Best would be to track it in a bug, with, in it, the list of
+</I>&gt;<i> services/capabilities you would like to have (I thought there was a
+</I>&gt;<i> bug open already, but could not find it): gallery, other?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In the meantime, there's a dropbox folder I believe (Patricia?).
+</I>
+Marcom has a sandbox on the Wiki, and I do have a bit of dropbox
+storage set aside for Mageia, but yes: a bug. Right now.
+
+Cheers,
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+Please put this one somewhere where you can check it over the next
+couple of weeks - it's going to be our work-in-progress document until
+release.
+
+PLEASE DO THINGS IN ORDER OF PRIORITY.
+
+Sorry; I know I shouldn't shout; but!
+
+Priority #1:
+
+The release texts. We've got a space ready to go in the Sandbox, please
+let's get on with it.
+
+Head over to the Sandbox and start writing.
+
+We need to have a first draft ready for the next Council meeting, and
+if I have to write it all by myself over Easted, I won't be a happy
+woman!
+
+Deadline for completion: 23 April.
+
+Priority #2:
+
+Do some writing for the new-look website - I'll have details about this
+shortly (just waiting for some more from Romain).
+
+Deadline for completion: 23 April.
+
+Both #1 and #2 have to go from us to i18n, so we need to honour the
+deadline.
+
+Priority #3:
+
+Get the planet sorted. Dams has come back to me and Josh and will
+organise the login this week, but I'll keep chasing until it happens.
+
+Priority #4:
+
+Get our press release off to all the sites on our list, *before* the
+release happens... 8-)
+
+Priority #5:
+
+Have a post-mortem, and make sure that this schemozzle doesn't happen
+again next time.
+
+Priority #0:
+
+USE THE SANDBOX. Really. Email the list with an idea, but write it up
+properly (not half-baked) and put it in the sandbox. When we've nailed
+it down, move it to the main page, then we can DO stuff. We've indulged
+in way more wittering than we really need to!
+
+Cheers!
+
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+I've raised a bug about the space we've been asking for, lo this long
+time:
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5213">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5213</A>
+
+Max, could you please add to it what you need?
+
+Cheers!
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+
+Once the vote is gone, can someone mail me the svg or png of the chosen logo.
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+
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As seen in bug this bug:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5213">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5213</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcom and Artwork teams (and maybe other teams later) need to have a
+</I>&gt;<i> storage space to upload temporary files, to share work in progress.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To do that, I think a simple solution would be to use WebDAV :
+</I>&gt;<i> - we setup webdav with ssl, and allow upload from users from artwork
+</I>&gt;<i> ldap group
+</I>&gt;<i> - we setup apache to distribute files from this directory, as
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://tmp.mageia.org/artwork">http://tmp.mageia.org/artwork</A> (disabling execution of any script)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Other options that I see are :
+</I>&gt;<i> - using an ftp server instead of webdav to upload the files. However
+</I>&gt;<i> the connection is not encrypted with ftp.
+</I>&gt;<i> - using scp/sftp, but this require to have posix accounts for all
+</I>&gt;<i> users
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> either greyscale or full white for me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Once the vote is gone, can someone mail me the svg or png of the chosen
+</I>&gt;<i> logo.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+An xcf with the proper layers.
+I wasn't happy with the shadows in Inkscape, so I used Gimp.
+
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Hi there, (please followup the discussion in mageia-marketing, not in
+-artwork or -webteam)
+
+here's a peak at one possible option for Mageia 2 release Web site
+update (not full at once, but for most important pages, and driving
+other pages into that direction too).
+
+The rationale behind this update is articulated as such:
+
+ A) the home page (mageia.org/) is targetted at one-time/first
+time/casual visitors, with a single, main call to action: download
+Mageia. There are others actions, such as: contribute, get older
+version(s), learn more about the product, and the community and the
+project. But there is no other navigation. It's really a poster-like
+page, direct to a main action, with the following main channel for
+visitors:
+
+ - home =&gt; action 1: get the software
+ - download =&gt; action 1: select your download
+ - while-downloading =&gt; actions: how to use, how to contribute, learn
+more about Mageia, what feedback you could provide
+
+Pushing this page calls for updating the Downloads index page design
+as well as the post-download page.
+
+
+ B) a dedicated, community home page is for people coming back again
+and again (contributors, activ users) with three main incoming
+sources:
+ - start.mageia.org (loaded by Mageia browsers)
+ - a mageia.org/coop or another keyword.
+ - home page lower priority action (see bottom nav links &quot;Community&quot;)
+
+Here go: news, calendar, teams, docs, and links to the various
+resources/tools on mageia.org in an organized way.
+
+
+ C) for past-home page pages, a new top navigation bar, organizing
+more of the site and making it more accessible from everywhere;
+especially, for easier embedding/deployment/update of it, the navbar
+will be available in different fashion: a dynamic Web service will
+produce the needed HTML/JS for it, and a JS snippet will allow to
+dynamically insert it into all sites (so there's little integration
+work). The top navigation bar exact content is still up to debate, but
+the very top categories should not exceed 5/6 entries at most.
+
+A, B and C are not strongly attached to each other, however they are
+part of the same proposal. There's a missing download page (and
+animation) from A page, but that's a start to go.
+
+A (home page) is <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/7Vqq6.png">http://i.imgur.com/7Vqq6.png</A> . It's a bold move for
+us. It's heavily inspired from a Firefox page which is a nice example
+of a product landing page. From a charter point of view, it reuses the
+white/blue gradient from our original logo and site elements. It may
+benefit from a very light, thin pattern in the blue background, or not
+(not sure). Text copy may need tweaks.
+
+B (community page) is ... still pending, I'm not satisfied with what I
+have so far. We have <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/contribute/">http://www.mageia.org/contribute/</A> but I'm not
+sure to change this one right now. Hope to have something to roll out
+for review next week.
+
+C (global nav) is ... pending too. I will roll it out for testing
+later this week. What it needs is to refine its structure; currently
+planned is:
+
+ * Mageia (links to a special map page of the site)
+ * About Us: mageia project info/history &amp; mageia.org organization
+info, what is under <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/about/">http://mageia.org/en/about/</A> already
+ * Downloads:
+ - Mageia 1 and 2 downloads and features pages,
+ - updates downloads info and mirrors
+ - mirrors
+ - specific software (we used to host a specific mgaonline package for)
+ * Community:
+ - news (blogs, planets, other?), calendar
+ - introduction to contributing
+ - forums, mailing-lists, IRC
+ - wiki, bugzilla, other doc resources
+ - contributors corners
+ * Support: current <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/support/">http://www.mageia.org/en/support/</A> page redispatched:
+ - users support: community and commercial vendors
+ - (security) updates info
+ - product lifecycle
+ - hardware stuff
+ * Contribute: necessary? as a short link to the contributors guide
+ * About You: not available for now, maybe moved somewhere else, but
+supported by identity and other mageia.org services, would act as a
+portal for every single user, to monitor her own activity/data.
+ * Search (over mageia.org domain)
+
+This new nav answer three concerns:
+ - /platform: allow an easier, consistent deployment of the top nav
+updates through all mageia.org; using here a javascript snippet;
+ - /layout: embed the Mageia logo in the navigation bar, so that it
+too brands the page to the project;
+ - /content: better structure the mageia.org domain into main activities/zones.
+
+I know that some may worry that some links currently in the top nav
+bar won't be available/visible anymore in all mageia.org as a first
+level item. It's a matter of context and of the very details of the
+implementation and the navigation channels.
+
+I don't have a B plan about that at this time, but it's not mandatory
+to change all things either. So it either works, or it doesn't.
+
+
+Note that (for a future/long term question), separating what is about
+the product (Features, Downloads, Support, News) from what is about
+the project/community (About Us, Community, part of Support,
+Contribute) would help a lot (different life cycles for the sites),
+but it needs to have a separate name for each too.
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+&gt;<i> We have a budget. And some of these sites are not free (Nor should we
+</I>&gt;<i> expect them to be). Some of the sites have *some* free services, and
+</I>&gt;<i> some are actually free.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> I need to hear back whether we're going to have this support and that
+</I>&gt;<i> there is a potential to release this *neccessary* funding for us.
+</I>
+If we need a budget, we actually have to put it together before asking
+for it; can you put something together with costs and priorities that
+we can use as a starting point?
+
+Personally I'd like to concentrate on free content, rather than
+paid-for content, but let's have a look at your proposal and see?
+
+Cheers,
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+<PRE>On 28/03/12, loqo typed:
+&gt;<i> I'm probably not very popular by talking bluntly, so I apologise
+</I>&gt;<i> again. This is how I've learned to get things done and any polite
+</I>&gt;<i> requests for changing my style/approach will be taken on board without
+</I>&gt;<i> conflict.
+</I>A late reply: That's fine with me.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You guys are all awesome and I respect every one of you. I'm proud to
+</I>&gt;<i> be a part of this process!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I genuinely love Mageia and want to get the best possible results. I
+</I>&gt;<i> wish to see a wide range of users coming to Mageia and loving it as
+</I>&gt;<i> much as I do! I also want to make it friendly and clear for newcomers
+</I>&gt;<i> that aren't experienced with Linux. Why should Ubuntu get them all?
+</I>&gt;<i> ;)
+</I>Indeed at that.
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+&gt;<i> 1) a newsletter - biweekly or whatever frequency fits to update
+</I>&gt;<i> subscribers on whats new in Magia. It would also be a good place for
+</I>&gt;<i> developer/team member interviews, and maybe a &quot;howto&quot; section. I don't
+</I>&gt;<i> claim to be a writer by any means so this would need to be a
+</I>&gt;<i> collaborative effort
+</I>
+After sending my first reply, I got onto
+<A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue259">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue259</A> yesterday
+morning the 3rd. Jono Bacon's dent to Identica, and Tweet to Twitter,
+came in as a channel notice to a IRC channel I go to and I saw the message.
+
+I also had a bit of a look at some of the past issues. I think how they
+do the newsletter on their WIKI like that, is a very good idea.
+
+For quite a long time I have been subscribed to Jono Bacon the Ubuntu
+Community Manager on Identica.
+
+As a new distro with a new community we can learn a lot from Ubuntu with
+a very established distro and community!
+
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+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley, how nice to see you come back to life! I'll get some responses
+</I>&gt;<i> going shortly.
+</I>Yep nice to have him back, but that means more emails for me to reply to
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com
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+<PRE>On 03/04/12, Bradley D. Thornton typed:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I really tired of having to watch the copy for the install screens
+</I>&gt;<i> continually revisited, and it looks like it finally came to a conclusion
+</I>&gt;<i> - - and I drew conclusions from that mess that I've addressed too.
+</I>
+Hi Bradley
+
+I helped with the install screen texts quite a lot, and made sure the
+graphics designer had made the install screen images with the marketing
+team text, two different versions in fact. It's ashame that none of that
+is going to be used in Mageia 2. Or maybe Anne's using screen shots
+instead idea can have marketing team text's as part of it?
+
+To give an idea what final installer screen texts would have been or
+been like after some changes:
+
+1. Mageia is more than just a Linux distribution: it'sa community of
+users, developers, and advocates from around the world. (18 words)
+
+2. Mageia is international - you can use it and be part of our community
+in your own language. (17 words)
+
+We need something that explains the repo's, or makes it clear, that
+loads of applications can be quickly downloaded and installed for 3. (Seb)
+
+3. Mageia has lots of different types of applications ready for quick
+easy install - Office, Internet, Development, Education, and more. (19
+words)
+
+4. Mageia Control Center allows the easy set upofuser accounts,
+hardware, software, networking, security and more. (17words)
+
+5. Using Mageia meansyou are part of our community - please get
+involved! www.mageia.org (13 words)
+
+Pretty good aren't they? Shame none of them will be being used in Mageia
+2 it seems. I guess they can be used in Mageia 3 though instead or
+something similar.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Our mail server seems to historically suck pretty bad - sometimes a post
+</I>&gt;<i> shows up quickly, and sometimes hours later. I dunno what the other
+</I>&gt;<i> folks on the admin team are failing to do and I don't have access to
+</I>&gt;<i> troubleshoot it but there is an failing there which can stymie the
+</I>&gt;<i> timeliness of responses for collaborative work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe I'll track down the person who has direct administration over the
+</I>&gt;<i> SMTP servers later and beleaguer them with my incessant badgering till
+</I>&gt;<i> they fix it - but not now LOL.
+</I>Indeed I have had major issues with that before, emails not appearing on
+the mailing list untill much later, went to the system admins team
+channel a few weeks or so ago, when this happended as well for example.
+Plus ended up sending a message again to this mailing list to find out
+if it was working properly or not which it wasn't at the time, and so
+also ended up with the message twice on this mailing list.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<PRE>I (Sebastian sebsebseb ) don't know why in the other message some of the
+words are joined together that shouldn't be. Wasn't like that on the
+Pirate Pad.
+
+1. Mageia is more than just a Linux distribution: it's a community of
+users, developers, and advocates from around the world. (18 words)
+
+2. Mageia is international - you can use it and be part of our community
+in your own language. (17 words)
+
+We need something that explains the repo's, or makes it clear, that
+loads of applications can be quickly downloaded and installed for 3. (Seb)
+
+3. Mageia has lots of different types of applications ready for quick
+easy install - Office, Internet, Development, Education, and more. (19
+words)
+
+4. Mageia Control Center allows the easy set up of user accounts,
+hardware, software, networking, security and more. (17words)
+
+5. Using Mageia means you are part of our community - please get
+involved! www.mageia.org (13 words)
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+<PRE>On 03/04/12, Bradley D. Thornton typed:
+&gt;<i> Sebastian, What I *think* I was able to understand, was your
+</I>&gt;<i> suggestion that everything (everything) feeds into indenti.ca, because
+</I>&gt;<i> that is the one route with which we can feed that has a path to feed
+</I>&gt;<i> all of the other social bookmarking/networking sites. Did I get that
+</I>&gt;<i> right? Can you do up a graphical flow chart that demonstrates this
+</I>&gt;<i> downstream effect? As MarCom, and if you're correct, we need to be
+</I>&gt;<i> able to sell the idea to the council and finalize this news feed
+</I>&gt;<i> concept. More than anything. I want to understand it :)
+</I>Yep that's basically it, if first send the message from Identica it can
+also go to Twitter, and from Twitter some how to Facebook. If send the
+message first from Diaspora to Identica, it can then go to Twitter and
+like I said before from Twitter to Facebook some how.
+
+With Identica got to use ! to send to the group
+<A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A> however Twitter only uses # which would
+send to a tag on Identica <A HREF="http://identi.ca/tag/mageia">http://identi.ca/tag/mageia</A> and the Identica
+bridge to Twitter automatically converts ! to # when sending the message
+to Twitter.
+
+Yes Identica and Diaspora aren't mainstreame social networking sites
+such as Twitter and Facebook, however Mageia has a presence there, and
+so they should be taken seriously as well and ideally by the whole
+Mageia social networking community. Another reason for them to be taken
+seriously would be that they are open social networking sites unlike
+Twitter and Facebook. Identica has mainly Linux users using the site it
+seems, and I think that's the same for Diaspora.
+
+Twitter can't send to Identica directly for example.
+
+Anyway that's a good idea I could do a chart or something like that
+later on, trying to explain this stuff as well.
+
+<A HREF="http://status.net/wiki/Twitter">http://status.net/wiki/Twitter</A>
+
+<A HREF="http://kmacphail.blogspot.co.uk/2010/12/exporting-diaspora-posts-to-identica.html.">http://kmacphail.blogspot.co.uk/2010/12/exporting-diaspora-posts-to-identica.html.</A>
+
+&gt;<i> Actually, the convention is to have everything lower case, since it's an
+</I>&gt;<i> URL.
+</I>I meant the URL title text's them selves.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
+</PRE>
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 03/25/2012 01:17 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We have 5 texts, but some people mostly me) are unhappy with them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>No that was Max that put that he wasn't happy with the original text's,
+I just agreed with him that they could have been improved.
+
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+&gt;<i> I'm so glad to hear that. And I noticed that even Sebastian fired off
+</I>&gt;<i> his last top-post about five hours after your notice in this email ;)
+</I>I am still quite new to sending emails to mailing lists really. Took me
+over a year to join most of the Mageia mailing list's for a few reasons.
+Then I started sending to them as I started to join teams in December.
+Some of the Mageia mailing lists are the first mailing lists that I am
+sending messages to and then a bit later on the LUG as well.
+
+In early January I finally bothered to join the LUG mailing list, which
+I am glad I have done. Been to the LUG once so far, and that was fun :).
+Would have been twice, but some travel issues and there wasn't really a
+proper meeting that time anyway. Gave away most of the Mageia 1 KDE and
+Gnome CD's from FOSDEM 2012 that I wanted to get rid of last month as
+well :).
+
+Going to the LUG probably at the end of this month :).
+
+Really when it comes to online communication I prefer much more instant
+communication such as IRC and instant messaging, however now since
+Mageia I am starting to become much more of an emails person as well.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Apparently, Marcom is supposed to look after the official planet (and
+</I>&gt;<i> receive all the requests and arrange for people to get hooked up). So,
+</I>&gt;<i> adding users to the official planet is our task anyway, and that means
+</I>&gt;<i> we can decide how the planet is going - and we have to moderate it so
+</I>&gt;<i> that we watch out for feeds with offensive or illegal content, and be
+</I>&gt;<i> prepared to move... so we need to make sure that people wanting to
+</I>&gt;<i> add their feeds are very aware of the Code of Conduct, among other
+</I>&gt;<i> things.
+</I>
+For the planet, I think a few things needs to be done :
+
+ - define clear rules about what kind of blogs are allowed on planet.
+
+ - define a list of people with admin access on planet, whose role is to
+ add the feeds when people request it, or remove feeds which are not
+ following the rules
+
+ - define how to request a new blog to be added: I think bugzilla could
+ be used for this. We can add a component in bugzilla for this kind of
+ request if needed.
+
+ - Write a wiki page to be linked from planet, with : the rules about
+ allowed blogs on planet, how to request a new blog to be added, and
+ the list of people with admin access
+
+</PRE>
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+&gt;<i> I don't get the whole &quot;Planet&quot; thing. never did. But really, anything
+</I>&gt;<i> ewboontoo leaves a bad taste in my mouth anyway, and we're really
+</I>&gt;<i> trying to set ourselves apart from others anyway.
+</I>
+Loads of open source projects have planets and here are two more:
+<A HREF="http://planet.gnome.org/">http://planet.gnome.org/</A> <A HREF="http://planetkde.org/">http://planetkde.org/</A>
+
+I guess Planets for opensource/freesoftware projects are fashionable at
+the moment. I mean something that by many people is expected at the
+moment for a opensource/freesoftware project to have.
+
+I used to help a lot with Ubuntu in IRC in 2008, 2009, and 2010. I used
+to chat to loads of different people who were using or trying out Ubuntu
+in private message as well for example. Also I have seen new users at
+the time put this kind of thing on IRC: How they think the Ubuntu
+community is really good, and that's what made them use Ubuntu.
+
+I don't like the distro itself that much any more for various reasons
+since 9.04/9.10, however will still try it out at times. Oh I know, and
+I have seen it for myself a lot, they have a very good community for
+their distro and it's been like that for many years.
+
+What I think as contributors of a new distribution, we should learn a
+lot from the other distro's such as Ubuntu when it comes to running a
+community and providing something for a community. Do some of the same
+things like we do at the moment such as, planets, and forums, and IRC
+channels and so on. However we need to also think about doing something
+different as well communitywise that will attract new users to our
+distro, rather than the others, and try and do that as well. Well if the
+long term goal is to try and have Mageia being one of the most used
+distros. If we don't do something different that attracts many new
+users to our community, well why should a new user pick Mageia over many
+other distro's really?
+
+If we are going to have a rather big user base for Mageia, we need to
+keep on working on the community making it better and better, not just
+the distro itself!
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+&gt;<i> For the planet, I think a few things needs to be done :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- define clear rules about what kind of blogs are allowed on planet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- define a list of people with admin access on planet, whose role is to
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; add the feeds when people request it, or remove feeds which are not
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; following the rules
+</I>
+Damien suggested to put this config in a svn repository with full
+access. So whatever happens, we know who committed what.
+
+&gt;<i> &#160;- define how to request a new blog to be added: I think bugzilla could
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; be used for this. We can add a component in bugzilla for this kind of
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; request if needed.
+</I>
+There's a planet.mageia.org component (just checked).
+
+&gt;<i> &#160;- Write a wiki page to be linked from planet, with : the rules about
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; allowed blogs on planet, how to request a new blog to be added, and
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; the list of people with admin access
+</I>
+Here: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets</A>
+</PRE>
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+</I>&gt;<i> That having been said, we keep asking ourselves about what sets Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> apart from other distros (IOW, why use Mageia instead of CentOS or
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora, considering that Mageia is 'yet another RPM based distro').
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If we all keep asking ourselves this question, and all we get back is
+</I>&gt;<i> one little control center app, then that is, operationally, the main
+</I>&gt;<i> difference isn't it (Please, flame me on this one, I really want someone
+</I>&gt;<i> to take enough offense to this that I hear what makes our distro
+</I>&gt;<i> operationally and technologically different enough to compel someone to
+</I>&gt;<i> adopt)?
+</I>
+Thing is with the control centre, Mandriva obviously also has a version
+of it as well, but also PC Linux OS, Unity Linux, and I think all the
+distro's based on Unity Linux. Unity Linux is more of a distribution
+builder than a distro or something like that.
+
+Probably wouldn't take that much for loads of other distro's to have a
+version of the control centre as well, it's open source after all.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+</I>&gt;<i> That having been said, we keep asking ourselves about what sets Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> apart from other distros (IOW, why use Mageia instead of CentOS or
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora, considering that Mageia is 'yet another RPM based distro').
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If we all keep asking ourselves this question, and all we get back is
+</I>&gt;<i> one little control center app, then that is, operationally, the main
+</I>&gt;<i> difference isn't it (Please, flame me on this one, I really want someone
+</I>&gt;<i> to take enough offense to this that I hear what makes our distro
+</I>&gt;<i> operationally and technologically different enough to compel someone to
+</I>&gt;<i> adopt)?
+</I>I think that distro's collaboration is a rather good thing indeed such
+as the AppStream project: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/notice/92041870">http://identi.ca/notice/92041870</A> However
+Mageia could do with something proper in the distro that makes it unique
+from all or many other distro's, something much more than the control
+centre. That is worth having for many users, if it's going to have a
+much bigger user base. I remember some of the founders had this idea
+before in 2010 or something like that for a future release.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+
+On the 30th March someone started emailing the LUG mailing list that I
+am on, about an event for the local IT and business community that will
+be at one of the universities here. The idea of the event is so that
+the Computer Science department can build up a closer connection with
+the local IT and business community.
+
+It's a event for IT related people such as, developers, web designers,
+business users, hobbyists, DBAs, and SysAdmins.
+
+The event is a workshop where groups can promote them selves, with side
+rooms available as well.
+
+There were replies on the mailing list and I replied as well. I told him
+how I am contributing to Mageia and wanted to build up more interest in
+the project in the local community and so on.
+
+After sending him my requested phone number and then whilst earlier
+talking to him on the phone it was suggested that I did a Lightning talk
+about Mageia.
+
+If I am to do this it will be in front of about 100 people it seems,
+that are university staff and students and people from the local IT and
+business community.
+
+I may have not done a talk before in front of such a big audience, but I
+did do a talk about Tim Berners-Lee, and web standards in front of one
+of my college classes, in 2005/6. So I am not that worried that it will
+be in front of a lot of people. In fact I quite like the idea of doing a
+talk in front of a lot of people :).
+
+I think it would be a very good opportunity and experience for me to go
+to this event and also whilst there to do a Lightning Talk about Mageia.
+So if anyone would like to help me prepare for this talk, please do so.
+
+Oliver told me that he has some slides for a talk he did before that he
+can send me.
+
+At this time I don't know when it will be exactly. I have time to think
+about if I am going to do the talk or not, but I'll probably get back to
+him soon to say that I will do it.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+&gt;<i> At this time I don't know when it will be exactly. I have time to
+</I>&gt;<i> think about if I am going to do the talk or not, but I'll probably
+</I>&gt;<i> get back to him soon to say that I will do it.
+</I>
+This is exactly what we need people to do, so it's great you're
+thinking about it!
+
+If you need CDs to hand out, there should still be some after LinuxTag
+(ennael or Oliver will know where they are) and stickers, so you have
+handouts if you need them. If it's after the release, we need to
+organise new Live CDs anyway.
+
+Keep us posted!
+
+Cheers,
+
+
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+On 01/19/2011 08:53 PM, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote:
+&gt;<i> Helo,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well i write here because i don tknow to who i shuld speak this. Here at
+</I>&gt;<i> Mexico, in fevrier, it will take place Enli 2011 www.enli.org.mx
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I got a conferece to present mageia. I wonder if someone has an already
+</I>&gt;<i> presentation i may translate to spanish to explain people what is mageia,
+</I>&gt;<i> whata are diferences between other distros, and mainly with mandriva. what is
+</I>&gt;<i> our work and what do they can expect. 1 hour of speaking.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> LD
+</I>
+Sebastian,
+
+Luis did his presentation on Mageia at Enli a little over a year ago.
+You may want to solicit him for ideas on it and particulars as to his
+coverage in the matter.
+
+I pulled this from my inbox in the hopes that you and He can get
+together, as he can probably point you towards some of the other
+resources that he drew upon :)
+
+A lightning talk is typically less than 10 minutes, so it should be a
+snap for you. His presentation was much longer and considerably more
+comprehensive than what you're looking to do, considering the time he
+was allotted for his presentation.
+
+I hope that helps!
+
+- --
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+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
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+ <B>info at librestickers.com</B>
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+I'm Teemu Otala from LibreStickers.com (site still under construction).
+LibreStickers.com will be a new webshop where one can purchase reasonable priced Open Source related stickers; *nix like distros, software, databases and programming languages. The selection will depend on the responses/approvals from the trademark/logo owners.
+The idea is to raise the awareness of Open Source software with fashionable small stickers (18x26mm) that developers and users can use to decorate their hardware (mainly laptops).
+The site is commercial, but it is not really about making money; just enough to keep it floating (estimated price for a sticker is around 0.70-1 euros at the moment).
+LibreStickers.com would also contribute 0,10&#8364;/sold sticker back to the project.
+
+I would like to request your permission to use Mageia logo and perhaps text Mageia on a single sticker - see attached file for early draft version.
+The sticker will be the highest possible quality: matt laminated vinyl with quality printing.
+Could you please respond if this request can be approved even partially, and if so what should be changed in the sticker design.
+The idea is to get these ready for LinuxTag2012 in Berlin, I would like to visit Mageia stand to give out some free stickers to the project members. The actual website should be ready by beginning of June 2012.
+
+Best Regards,
+
+ Teemu Otala
+ <A HREF="http://www.librestickers.com">http://www.librestickers.com</A>
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+On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 13:58, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">info at librestickers.com</A>
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">info at librestickers.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> The site is commercial, but it is not really about making money; just enough to keep it floating (estimated price for a sticker is around 0.70-1 euros at the moment).
+</I>&gt;<i> LibreStickers.com would also contribute 0,10&#8364;/sold sticker back to the project.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would like to request your permission to use Mageia logo and perhaps text Mageia on a single sticker - see attached file for early draft version.
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>
+Looks good to me. We should have it viewed through artwork as well,
+the layout and quality of the draft seems ok (apart the green border
+but that may be an aterfact). Other input?
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 13:58, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">info at librestickers.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">info at librestickers.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The site is commercial, but it is not really about making money;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; just enough to keep it floating (estimated price for a sticker is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; around 0.70-1 euros at the moment). LibreStickers.com would also
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; contribute 0,10&#8364;/sold sticker back to the project.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I would like to request your permission to use Mageia logo and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; perhaps text Mageia on a single sticker - see attached file for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; early draft version. [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Looks good to me. We should have it viewed through artwork as well,
+</I>&gt;<i> the layout and quality of the draft seems ok (apart the green border
+</I>&gt;<i> but that may be an aterfact). Other input?
+</I>
+How are our stocks of stickers we got made for FOSDEM? We might not
+need too many more, ourselves, just now.
+
+It would be good, though, for there to be stickers generally available!
+
+Cheers,
+
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+little lighter?
+One of our blues?
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+&gt;<i> How are our stocks of stickers we got made for FOSDEM? We might not
+</I>&gt;<i> need too many more, ourselves, just now.
+</I>I still have enough of those for the remaining FLOSS events in Germany
+(LinuxTag, FrOSCon and perhaps the Linuxday in Bregenz (Austria))
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+But in general I have no objection. And &quot;after the event is before the
+event&quot;, meaning there will be many more events coming in the future :)
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+&gt;<i> Looks good, but maybe change the bottom part from black to something a
+</I>&gt;<i> little lighter?
+</I>&gt;<i> One of our blues?
+</I>
+The darker one then (for contrast). Could you see that with him (suggesting)?
+
+As for the formal go, I'd like the point to be raised at the board,
+and to be noticed by council (I'll forward the request) as it's about
+brand management, and there's a financial matter. But we could still
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 19:53, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; For the planet, I think a few things needs to be done :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;- define clear rules about what kind of blogs are allowed on planet.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;- define a list of people with admin access on planet, whose role is to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; add the feeds when people request it, or remove feeds which are not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; following the rules
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Damien suggested to put this config in a svn repository with full
+</I>&gt;<i> access. So whatever happens, we know who committed what.
+</I>
+Configuration file look like this :
+<A HREF="http://dpaste.com/727371/">http://dpaste.com/727371/</A>
+
+We can store it somewhere on svn. But I don't know if that's convenient
+to edit. What do marketing team think ?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;- define how to request a new blog to be added: I think bugzilla could
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; be used for this. We can add a component in bugzilla for this kind of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; request if needed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's a planet.mageia.org component (just checked).
+</I>
+Ok, so should we make marketing team default assignee on
+planet.mageia.org component, and update wiki page to say that requests
+should be done on bugzilla in Websites -&gt; planet.mageia.org ?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;- Write a wiki page to be linked from planet, with : the rules about
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; allowed blogs on planet, how to request a new blog to be added, and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; the list of people with admin access
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets</A>
+</I>
+Ok, I didn't know this page. So now we need to decide who will manage
+those requests, and update planet to show a link to this wiki page ?
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+On 04/05/2012 06:40 AM, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+&gt;<i> Looks good, but maybe change the bottom part from black to something a
+</I>&gt;<i> little lighter?
+</I>&gt;<i> One of our blues?
+</I>
+Yes, as there is an official palette.
+
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+ <I>Fri Apr 6 01:54:07 CEST 2012</I>
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+&gt;<i> &gt; Damien suggested to put this config in a svn repository with full
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; access. So whatever happens, we know who committed what.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Configuration file look like this :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://dpaste.com/727371/">http://dpaste.com/727371/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We can store it somewhere on svn. But I don't know if that's
+</I>&gt;<i> convenient to edit. What do marketing team think ?
+</I>
+This look okay to you?
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &#160;- Write a wiki page to be linked from planet, with : the rules
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; about allowed blogs on planet, how to request a new blog to be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; added, and the list of people with admin access
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Here: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok, I didn't know this page. So now we need to decide who will manage
+</I>&gt;<i> those requests, and update planet to show a link to this wiki page ?
+</I>
+That would be us (marcom), in particular Josh who has kindly taken this
+on - thanks Josh!
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
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+Fri Apr 6 09:39:03 EST 2012
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+&gt;<i> On 04/05/2012 06:54 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi Josh,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Damien suggested to put this config in a svn repository with full
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; access. So whatever happens, we know who committed what.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Configuration file look like this :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://dpaste.com/727371/">http://dpaste.com/727371/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; We can store it somewhere on svn. But I don't know if that's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; convenient to edit. What do marketing team think ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This look okay to you?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; - Write a wiki page to be linked from planet, with : the rules
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; about allowed blogs on planet, how to request a new blog to be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; added, and the list of people with admin access
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Here: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Ok, I didn't know this page. So now we need to decide who will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; manage those requests, and update planet to show a link to this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; wiki page ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That would be us (marcom), in particular Josh who has kindly taken
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this on - thanks Josh!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That looks fine to me, but moonmoom already has a similar file in
+</I>&gt;<i> place. I'm not sure I understand the need for committing it to svn?
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, where is the svn repo located and who will have commit rights?
+</I>
+Just sending this back to the list - don't know the answer, sorry!
+
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+ <B>Josh King (dotmil)</B>
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+
+After a lengthy absence, it's time to update the planets again. The
+guidelines for having your blog added can be found at the following wiki
+page: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets.">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets.</A> We want them to be full of
+those who make Mageia what it is ahead of the 2 launch. This doesn't
+need to be only developers or major team members, because we *all* are
+Mageia.
+
+For now, until a more formal process is in place, please just send me
+your name, and a link to your blog. The blogs should primarily be
+related to Mageia and/or Free Software and are expected to comply with
+the Mageia Code of Conduct (<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/code-of-conduct/">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/code-of-conduct/</A>)
+
+Any questions or comments please reply to this message or email me
+directly. We would also eventually like to come up with a better overall
+design for the planets, so if you are someone who is web design
+inclined, please also contact me.
+
+Thanks!
+--
+IRC: dotmil
+Skype: linuxpunk1
+AIM: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i> If you need CDs to hand out, there should still be some after LinuxTag
+</I>&gt;<i> (ennael or Oliver will know where they are) and stickers, so you have
+</I>&gt;<i> handouts if you need them. If it's after the release, we need to
+</I>&gt;<i> organise new Live CDs anyway.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Keep us posted!
+</I>Earlier I emailed saying that I would like to do the talk.
+
+It seems that the event will be on Saturday 19th May, which does not
+leave that much time to have official Mageia 2 Live CD's made and sent
+to myself from abroad. Since the release is now going to be on Tuesday
+15th May instead (,unless delayed again which it probably won't be).
+
+I could try giving away Mageia 1 CD's at the event if more are sent, but
+I think giving away Mageia 2 will be much better.
+
+I wouldn't mind having stickers sent to give out at the event and LUG.
+
+Also it would be good to have papers with official information about
+Mageia in English that can be given to people at events and LUG's for
+example. At FOSDEM 2012 there was, but in French (and I came back home
+with two anyway). Of course this is probably really a task for Marcom.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+
+&gt;<i> Earlier I emailed saying that I would like to do the talk.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems that the event will be on Saturday 19th May, which does not
+</I>&gt;<i> leave that much time to have official Mageia 2 Live CD's made and
+</I>&gt;<i> sent to myself from abroad. Since the release is now going to be on
+</I>&gt;<i> Tuesday 15th May instead (,unless delayed again which it probably
+</I>&gt;<i> won't be).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I could try giving away Mageia 1 CD's at the event if more are sent,
+</I>&gt;<i> but I think giving away Mageia 2 will be much better.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wouldn't mind having stickers sent to give out at the event and LUG.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also it would be good to have papers with official information about
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia in English that can be given to people at events and LUG's for
+</I>&gt;<i> example. At FOSDEM 2012 there was, but in French (and I came back
+</I>&gt;<i> home with two anyway). Of course this is probably really a task for
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcom.
+</I>
+Okay, so contact Oliver or ennael about getting the stickers, and let
+us have a look at what you're going to present! Do you know if they'll
+have video or something afterwards, that we can look at and link to?
+
+Cheers!
+
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+<PRE>On 05/04/12 09:32, Bradley D. Thornton wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 01/19/2011 08:53 PM, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Helo,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well i write here because i don tknow to who i shuld speak this. Here at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mexico, in fevrier, it will take place Enli 2011 www.enli.org.mx
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I got a conferece to present mageia. I wonder if someone has an already
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> presentation i may translate to spanish to explain people what is mageia,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> whata are diferences between other distros, and mainly with mandriva. what is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> our work and what do they can expect. 1 hour of speaking.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> LD
+</I>&gt;<i> Sebastian,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Luis did his presentation on Mageia at Enli a little over a year ago.
+</I>&gt;<i> You may want to solicit him for ideas on it and particulars as to his
+</I>&gt;<i> coverage in the matter.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I pulled this from my inbox in the hopes that you and He can get
+</I>&gt;<i> together, as he can probably point you towards some of the other
+</I>&gt;<i> resources that he drew upon :)
+</I>Ok thanks, but you didn't provide the email address. However I guess I
+can get that from the archive anyway.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A lightning talk is typically less than 10 minutes, so it should be a
+</I>&gt;<i> snap for you. His presentation was much longer and considerably more
+</I>&gt;<i> comprehensive than what you're looking to do, considering the time he
+</I>&gt;<i> was allotted for his presentation.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I hope that helps!
+</I>I think really going by the phone call I had, that he wanted me to do a
+longer talk. However then I said how I hadn't done this kind of thing
+before, so the Lightning talk got suggested.
+
+Indeed Lightning talks are short about 15 minutes or so, and so topics
+have to be quick and to the point, especially if going to leave any time
+for questions.
+
+A Lightning talk is usually a summary or something like that I think, of
+a project at an event for example, and as you would probably expect the
+Lightning talks will be at the end of this event.
+
+Knowing me once I got started and feeling comfortable enough I would
+probably want more than 15 minutes or so really. I mean I talked about
+Desktop Linux and so on, with someone for three hours and a bit when I
+went on a podcast for my first time last year for example. Of course
+that's different since it was done on the computer.
+
+Also when I did that talk about Tim Berners-Lee and web standards in
+2005 in front of one of my college classes, it was only meant to be
+about 10 minutes, but was 20 or so.
+
+It seems that I could do a longer talk or presentation and a lightning talk.
+
+I'll email more about this event soon, once I have found out a bit more.
+Currently waiting for another email reply from him.
+
+I thought about it earlier, but I would actually want the talk/s I am
+doing to be recorded, so that I can watch it myself, and show lot's of
+people, well if I am happy enough with it :). Not told the person
+organising the event this yet, but something that can be done later on.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+</I>&gt;<i> After a lengthy absence, it's time to update the planets again.
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+&gt;<i> On 06/04/12 02:09, Josh King (dotmil) typed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi All,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> After a lengthy absence, it's time to update the planets again.
+</I>&gt;<i> Welcome back :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks sebsebseb:-) Good to be back
+
+
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+On 04/05/2012 08:53 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 05/04/12 09:32, Bradley D. Thornton wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Luis did his presentation on Mageia at Enli a little over a year ago.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You may want to solicit him for ideas on it and particulars as to his
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> coverage in the matter.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I pulled this from my inbox in the hopes that you and He can get
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> together, as he can probably point you towards some of the other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> resources that he drew upon :)
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Ok thanks, but you didn't provide the email address. However I guess I
+</I>&gt;<i> can get that from the archive anyway.
+</I>
+Oh you're right. the listserver scrubbed his direct email addy from the
+cc line.
+
+Yeah it's in the archives, and I'm not sure if he's still subscribed to
+the list here or not.
+
+Regardless, it looks like you're making good headway anyway.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Indeed Lightning talks are short about 15 minutes or so, and so topics
+</I>&gt;<i> have to be quick and to the point, especially if going to leave any time
+</I>&gt;<i> for questions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yes that's the beauty, and the bane of it. If you really want to just
+jam it out in Toastmaster fashion and rehearse it, it works.
+
+But if it takes a few minutes for you to warm up and you like to work
+from notes as opposed to a rehearsed speach you'll prolly find that just
+around the time you're getting warmed up and having fun your time is up
+already :(
+
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+&gt;&gt;<i> That looks fine to me, but moonmoom already has a similar file in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> place. I'm not sure I understand the need for committing it to svn?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also, where is the svn repo located and who will have commit rights?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just sending this back to the list - don't know the answer, sorry!
+</I>
+That's the very same file. The use of having it in svn would be to
+know what was changed and when (and why, in the commit message). It
+would allow to have several persons able to edit this config, whereas
+through moonmoon, there is only one admin account.
+
+It would be located in the web svn repository
+(<A HREF="http://svn.mageia.org/web/">http://svn.mageia.org/web/</A>) so commit rights would be those of the
+Web team, and you would of course get this right.
+
+But the right solution is the one that fits best those in charge of
+the planets (there are several, not only English one): up to you.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> There's a planet.mageia.org component (just checked).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok, so should we make marketing team default assignee on
+</I>&gt;<i> planet.mageia.org component, and update wiki page to say that requests
+</I>&gt;<i> should be done on bugzilla in Websites -&gt; planet.mageia.org ?
+</I>
+Yep. Josh, agree with that?
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;- Write a wiki page to be linked from planet, with : the rules about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; allowed blogs on planet, how to request a new blog to be added, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; the list of people with admin access
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Here: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok, I didn't know this page. So now we need to decide who will manage
+</I>&gt;<i> those requests, and update planet to show a link to this wiki page ?
+</I>
+Either that, or we move the page very content in the planet side bar,
+so everything is self contained. Either way, it will help that the
+planets source code is sourced from our svn (and we can maintain a
+branch of it against upstream).
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+<PRE>On 04/06/2012 01:23 AM, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 06 april 2012 06:14:50 schreef Josh King (dotmil):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do Mageia Xen Images exist anywhere yet? I have a company I work closely
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with who is considering offering them as part of their VPS lineup. But 2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> questions, first do they exist and second, would there be any demand?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any inputs on either are greatly appreciated.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> do you mean dom0 host support? or guest support?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> normal kernels should all have guest support, so you can easily install them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> unless you mean some prebuild mageia image files?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i donno if there would be demand, but you can build an image yourself if you
+</I>&gt;<i> want.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+Sorry I wasn't clear. I'm looking for guest support, and was hoping
+someone had already built one. I have a company that would be wiling to
+provide Xen guests for VPS's, but is undermanned and cannot dedicate
+resources to building one that could be easily deployed.
+
+While I could go ahead and create a guest, I guess I'm wondering if
+there are any special requirements ffor such a guest so it can be
+re-used by other hosting companies (hopefully).
+
+Thanks!
+
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+<PRE>On 04/06/2012 10:45 AM, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry I wasn't clear. I'm looking for guest support, and was hoping
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> someone had already built one. I have a company that would be wiling to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> provide Xen guests for VPS's, but is undermanned and cannot dedicate
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> resources to building one that could be easily deployed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> While I could go ahead and create a guest, I guess I'm wondering if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> there are any special requirements ffor such a guest so it can be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> re-used by other hosting companies (hopefully).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i don't think anything special is required, the necessary guest drivers and
+</I>&gt;<i> xen specific stuff should already be in standard kernel/standard install
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i would think an install from iso/network should be easily doable and you
+</I>&gt;<i> won't loose that much time with it...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+That's kind of what I'm thinking. The question is how are these
+redistributable? I hope someone who more Xen-foo than I can shed some
+light on how we could make these readily available to be added as domU
+images, or is there such a need?
+
+--
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+Maybe Mageia could have a bi-weekly or monthly Google Plus Hangout.
+You know, just so that everybody who communicates on email and IRC can once
+in a while get see each other, help community building and all that.
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+&gt;<i> I was just thinking about this...
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe Mageia could have a bi-weekly or monthly Google Plus Hangout.
+</I>&gt;<i> You know, just so that everybody who communicates on email and IRC
+</I>&gt;<i> can once in a while get see each other, help community building and
+</I>&gt;<i> all that. I'm sure Seb could explain better.
+</I>
+This is a very neat idea, Max! I'm not sure whether my bandwidth would
+be up to it, but I'll give it a go. Maybe we could try it instead of an
+IRC meeting one time?
+
+Cheers!
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+I'm planning on spending some time in the next 18 hours putting some
+work in on the sandbox. Please join in!
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+Cheers,
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+<PRE>Hi Romain,
+
+We'd promised to have some text ready for the Council meeting, but I'm
+not quite sure what we need to write for the website - do you have
+anything more that we can look at?
+
+Cheers!
+
+&gt;<i> Hi there, (please followup the discussion in mageia-marketing, not in
+</I>&gt;<i> -artwork or -webteam)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> here's a peak at one possible option for Mageia 2 release Web site
+</I>&gt;<i> update (not full at once, but for most important pages, and driving
+</I>&gt;<i> other pages into that direction too).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The rationale behind this update is articulated as such:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A) the home page (mageia.org/) is targetted at one-time/first
+</I>&gt;<i> time/casual visitors, with a single, main call to action: download
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia. There are others actions, such as: contribute, get older
+</I>&gt;<i> version(s), learn more about the product, and the community and the
+</I>&gt;<i> project. But there is no other navigation. It's really a poster-like
+</I>&gt;<i> page, direct to a main action, with the following main channel for
+</I>&gt;<i> visitors:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - home =&gt; action 1: get the software
+</I>&gt;<i> - download =&gt; action 1: select your download
+</I>&gt;<i> - while-downloading =&gt; actions: how to use, how to contribute, learn
+</I>&gt;<i> more about Mageia, what feedback you could provide
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Pushing this page calls for updating the Downloads index page design
+</I>&gt;<i> as well as the post-download page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> B) a dedicated, community home page is for people coming back again
+</I>&gt;<i> and again (contributors, activ users) with three main incoming
+</I>&gt;<i> sources:
+</I>&gt;<i> - start.mageia.org (loaded by Mageia browsers)
+</I>&gt;<i> - a mageia.org/coop or another keyword.
+</I>&gt;<i> - home page lower priority action (see bottom nav links
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Community&quot;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here go: news, calendar, teams, docs, and links to the various
+</I>&gt;<i> resources/tools on mageia.org in an organized way.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> C) for past-home page pages, a new top navigation bar, organizing
+</I>&gt;<i> more of the site and making it more accessible from everywhere;
+</I>&gt;<i> especially, for easier embedding/deployment/update of it, the navbar
+</I>&gt;<i> will be available in different fashion: a dynamic Web service will
+</I>&gt;<i> produce the needed HTML/JS for it, and a JS snippet will allow to
+</I>&gt;<i> dynamically insert it into all sites (so there's little integration
+</I>&gt;<i> work). The top navigation bar exact content is still up to debate, but
+</I>&gt;<i> the very top categories should not exceed 5/6 entries at most.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A, B and C are not strongly attached to each other, however they are
+</I>&gt;<i> part of the same proposal. There's a missing download page (and
+</I>&gt;<i> animation) from A page, but that's a start to go.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A (home page) is <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/7Vqq6.png">http://i.imgur.com/7Vqq6.png</A> . It's a bold move for
+</I>&gt;<i> us. It's heavily inspired from a Firefox page which is a nice example
+</I>&gt;<i> of a product landing page. From a charter point of view, it reuses the
+</I>&gt;<i> white/blue gradient from our original logo and site elements. It may
+</I>&gt;<i> benefit from a very light, thin pattern in the blue background, or not
+</I>&gt;<i> (not sure). Text copy may need tweaks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> B (community page) is ... still pending, I'm not satisfied with what I
+</I>&gt;<i> have so far. We have <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/contribute/">http://www.mageia.org/contribute/</A> but I'm not
+</I>&gt;<i> sure to change this one right now. Hope to have something to roll out
+</I>&gt;<i> for review next week.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> C (global nav) is ... pending too. I will roll it out for testing
+</I>&gt;<i> later this week. What it needs is to refine its structure; currently
+</I>&gt;<i> planned is:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * Mageia (links to a special map page of the site)
+</I>&gt;<i> * About Us: mageia project info/history &amp; mageia.org organization
+</I>&gt;<i> info, what is under <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/about/">http://mageia.org/en/about/</A> already
+</I>&gt;<i> * Downloads:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mageia 1 and 2 downloads and features pages,
+</I>&gt;<i> - updates downloads info and mirrors
+</I>&gt;<i> - mirrors
+</I>&gt;<i> - specific software (we used to host a specific mgaonline package
+</I>&gt;<i> for)
+</I>&gt;<i> * Community:
+</I>&gt;<i> - news (blogs, planets, other?), calendar
+</I>&gt;<i> - introduction to contributing
+</I>&gt;<i> - forums, mailing-lists, IRC
+</I>&gt;<i> - wiki, bugzilla, other doc resources
+</I>&gt;<i> - contributors corners
+</I>&gt;<i> * Support: current <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/support/">http://www.mageia.org/en/support/</A> page
+</I>&gt;<i> redispatched:
+</I>&gt;<i> - users support: community and commercial vendors
+</I>&gt;<i> - (security) updates info
+</I>&gt;<i> - product lifecycle
+</I>&gt;<i> - hardware stuff
+</I>&gt;<i> * Contribute: necessary? as a short link to the contributors guide
+</I>&gt;<i> * About You: not available for now, maybe moved somewhere else, but
+</I>&gt;<i> supported by identity and other mageia.org services, would act as a
+</I>&gt;<i> portal for every single user, to monitor her own activity/data.
+</I>&gt;<i> * Search (over mageia.org domain)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This new nav answer three concerns:
+</I>&gt;<i> - /platform: allow an easier, consistent deployment of the top nav
+</I>&gt;<i> updates through all mageia.org; using here a javascript snippet;
+</I>&gt;<i> - /layout: embed the Mageia logo in the navigation bar, so that it
+</I>&gt;<i> too brands the page to the project;
+</I>&gt;<i> - /content: better structure the mageia.org domain into main
+</I>&gt;<i> activities/zones.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I know that some may worry that some links currently in the top nav
+</I>&gt;<i> bar won't be available/visible anymore in all mageia.org as a first
+</I>&gt;<i> level item. It's a matter of context and of the very details of the
+</I>&gt;<i> implementation and the navigation channels.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't have a B plan about that at this time, but it's not mandatory
+</I>&gt;<i> to change all things either. So it either works, or it doesn't.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Note that (for a future/long term question), separating what is about
+</I>&gt;<i> the product (Features, Downloads, Support, News) from what is about
+</I>&gt;<i> the project/community (About Us, Community, part of Support,
+</I>&gt;<i> Contribute) would help a lot (different life cycles for the sites),
+</I>&gt;<i> but it needs to have a separate name for each too.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>
+
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+<PRE>Hi all,
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+I had promised that we'd have a first draft of the release texts ready
+for inspection at this meeting, but: we're not there yet.
+
+For the website, Romain will be updating marcom on the structure this
+week, when we can get to work on that. For the blog post - too easy, we
+can put that together very quickly. The only other one which might take
+a bit of work is the press release, which I'm hoping we can get some
+input from council members as to what people would like to see in the
+release - then it will take shape very quickly.
+
+So, see you at the meeting, if everyone's not stunned with chocolate...
+
+Cheers!
+
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+<PRE>I won' t make it tonight. At the time of tge meeting i will most likely be
+on the road...
+
+Happy easter,
+Oliver
+On 09.04.2012 13:58, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I had promised that we'd have a first draft of the release texts ready
+</I>&gt;<i> for inspection at this meeting, but: we're not there yet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the website, Romain will be updating marcom on the structure this
+</I>&gt;<i> week, when we can get to work on that. For the blog post - too easy, we
+</I>&gt;<i> can put that together very quickly. The only other one which might take
+</I>&gt;<i> a bit of work is the press release, which I'm hoping we can get some
+</I>&gt;<i> input from council members as to what people would like to see in the
+</I>&gt;<i> release - then it will take shape very quickly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, see you at the meeting, if everyone's not stunned with chocolate...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
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+</I>&gt;<i> Mon Apr 9 21:54:53 EST 2012
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+
+Has anyone done any writing towards these?
+
+We absolutely must have the first draft ready to show council on Monday
+16th, and the deadline for completion is 23 April, so we need to get
+cracking.
+
+Check on the wiki sandbox to see what's needed, and please say when you
+can be online to collaborate on a piratepad or wherever, sometime over
+the weekend - times in UTC please.
+
+Cheers!
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+needed exactly for the release texts, as in what is meant to be typed.
+
+A Piratepad is a good idea so we can work on it together. In general
+evening's UK time are a good time for me, not this evening though for
+example since going out.
+
+Currently UK is on BST, instead of UTC/GMT so one hour a head of that.
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+I don't remember whether it's our turn or artwork's, but whichever it
+is I won't be around - I'll be without internet access for a couple of
+days.
+
+Please do go and scribble something in the Sandbox... 8-)
+
+Cheers,
+
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+
+I only get 5 minutes for the Mageia Lightning Talk. So any help would be
+appreciated for the talk as a whole, from how I will introduce myself,
+what I will say about Mageia, to how I will end the talk. However I have
+some ideas for this.
+
+I would like some help making some slides for the talk and I would also
+appreciate having help in creating a talk description for the event
+website: <A HREF="http://www.itmegameet.co.uk/">http://www.itmegameet.co.uk/</A>
+
+The event won't be like FOSDEM where certain talks get recorded. As a
+result mine won't be recorded and put online, unless I can get someone
+from the audience to record it for me. However I can probably get
+someone from the audience to record it for me on their mobile phone for
+example, but the quality of the video may not be that good as a result
+if that.
+
+It also seems that some people from other parts of the UK that I know
+online who use or know about Mageia may come to the event as well to see
+my talk. Some people from my LUG may be at the event as well.
+
+Since the event is a few days after the Mageia 2 release if certain
+people are coming I plan to book a restaurant as well for the evening
+and celebrate the Mageia 2 release for example :).
+
+With Ubuntu they have release parties after a new final version has been
+released: <A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/RunningReleaseParty">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/RunningReleaseParty</A>
+
+There won't be a Mageia side room or stand at the event, but hopefully I
+can be sent official Mageia 2 CD's that I can take with me in a bag and
+stickers as well. Also I did contact Oliver about this before.
+
+With official Mageia 2 CD's there wouldn't be much time to make and then
+send them from abroad so that I have them on Saturday 19th May, since
+the Tuesday 15th May release.
+
+ From Sebastian
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+Cheers,
+
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+ <I>Wed Apr 25 16:08:14 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+Just in case it can help you in your task of promoting Mageia 2, here is a
+link to get a comparison between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2.
+
+* new packages are in green background
+* updated packages in white background
+
+<A HREF="http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/source/1/application/0">http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/source/1/application/0</A>
+
+This shows source packages. The &quot;show only applications&quot; and &quot;regular
+packages&quot; led me to some SQL errors I must investigate, so meanwhile I
+advise to not use them on this page.
+
+The group filter should work fine, for example here is the same page for games
+only:
+
+<A HREF="http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0/group/78%2C20%2C64%2C10%2C30%2C46%2C74%2C1/source/1">http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0/group/78%2C20%2C64%2C10%2C30%2C46%2C74%2C1/source/1</A>
+
+(It's still a demo instance for Mageia App Db, it's not running on Mageia
+servers yet)
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
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+&gt;<i> Just in case it can help you in your task of promoting Mageia 2, here
+</I>&gt;<i> is a link to get a comparison between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2.
+</I>
+Brilliant - this is very helpful, thanks!
+
+--
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+Fri Apr 27 20:11:27 EST 2012
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+just wanted to drop a note that Release Notes needs an
+update for the newly added, really beautiful and partly animated
+Mageia E17 themes, made by Agust, which can be seen at
+<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2061">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2061</A>
+I could do a draft, but i'd prefer if that could be done by someone
+who's more used to marketing'ish / advertising writing stuff,
+because i totally suck at that.
+
+An important point is that those themes are for now
+exclusive to Mageia, and created by a Mageia user, who
+recently joined forces with artwork team, IIRC.
+
+
+Kind Regards
+
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+ <B>info at librestickers.com</B>
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+&gt;<i> On 04/05/2012 06:40 AM, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Looks good, but maybe change the bottom part from black to something
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> little lighter?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> One of our blues?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, as there is an official palette.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kindest regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> - --
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+Sorry for the slow answer. Thank you very much for excellent feedback.
+
+The official palette would be excellent but as the 'mageia' text uses
+the whole palette (text and dot on top of letter 'i') it would actually
+mask part of the text nevertheless what palette variant
+(<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/charter.html">http://www.mageia.org/en/charter.html</A>) is used.
+
+Therefore it looks like the official palette is a bit tricky leaving us
+with four options to choose from:
+1) Leave the bottom background totally off
+(<A HREF="http://librestickers.com/mageia/mageia2.png">http://librestickers.com/mageia/mageia2.png</A>)
+2) Add a line and text 'Powered by' that both utilize the official
+palette (<A HREF="http://librestickers.com/mageia/mageia.png">http://librestickers.com/mageia/mageia.png</A>)
+3) Alter the mageia text palette to unofficial
+4) Use just some lighter official palette like color
+
+The sticker size is 18mm wide and 26mm high.
+The sticker background color is Satin White (matte) which is suitable
+for all options listed above.
+There is also a chance of using brushed aluminium background sticker
+which is very elegant and works nicely with options 1 and 2.
+One open question is also that should there be a text TM (unregistered
+trademark) following the logo and/or text (as for example Arch Linux
+prefers)?
+
+If everything goes as planned these will go for printing by the end of
+next week and will be ready for distribution by 20th of May...
+Hopefully.
+
+Regards,
+ Teemu
+
+P.S. Still planning to visit LinuxTag2012 and bring a stack of these to
+Mageia stand plus there will be the 0,10e/sold sticker (from the coming
+online shop) to the project (10-14% of the actual selling price)
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 23:58, &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">info at librestickers.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Therefore it looks like the official palette is a bit tricky leaving us with
+</I>&gt;<i> four options to choose from:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) Leave the bottom background totally off
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://librestickers.com/mageia/mageia2.png">http://librestickers.com/mageia/mageia2.png</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) Add a line and text 'Powered by' that both utilize the official palette
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://librestickers.com/mageia/mageia.png">http://librestickers.com/mageia/mageia.png</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) Alter the mageia text palette to unofficial
+</I>&gt;<i> 4) Use just some lighter official palette like color
+</I>
+1 or 2 look good (right colors, good contrast). 3 is not an option.
+I'm not sure 4 would bring something better.
+
+&gt;<i> One open question is also that should there be a text TM (unregistered
+</I>&gt;<i> trademark) following the logo and/or text (as for example Arch Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> prefers)?
+</I>
+No.
+
+&gt;<i> If everything goes as planned these will go for printing by the end of next
+</I>&gt;<i> week and will be ready for distribution by 20th of May... Hopefully.
+</I>
+Cool.
+
+&gt;<i> P.S. Still planning to visit LinuxTag2012 and bring a stack of these to
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia stand plus there will be the 0,10e/sold sticker (from the coming
+</I>&gt;<i> online shop) to the project (10-14% of the actual selling price)
+</I>
+Excellent. I know that at least ennael, boklm and obgr will be at LinuxTag.
+
+Thanks.
+</PRE>
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+<PRE>Am 27.04.2012 20:27, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> just wanted to drop a note that Release Notes needs an
+</I>&gt;<i> update for the newly added, really beautiful and partly animated
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia E17 themes, made by Agust, which can be seen at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2061">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2061</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> I could do a draft, but i'd prefer if that could be done by someone
+</I>&gt;<i> who's more used to marketing'ish / advertising writing stuff,
+</I>&gt;<i> because i totally suck at that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> An important point is that those themes are for now
+</I>&gt;<i> exclusive to Mageia, and created by a Mageia user, who
+</I>&gt;<i> recently joined forces with artwork team, IIRC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kind Regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS: resent after subscribing to the list
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Uhmm - ping?
+As release is approaching, we should get release notes ready.
+
+
+
+/OT: Are there some mageia shirts left over from previous events?
+</PRE>
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 06 april 2012 16:23:44 schreef Josh King (dotmil):
+&gt;<i> On 04/06/2012 01:23 AM, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op vrijdag 06 april 2012 06:14:50 schreef Josh King (dotmil):
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Do Mageia Xen Images exist anywhere yet? I have a company I work closely
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; with who is considering offering them as part of their VPS lineup. But 2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; questions, first do they exist and second, would there be any demand?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Any inputs on either are greatly appreciated.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; do you mean dom0 host support? or guest support?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; normal kernels should all have guest support, so you can easily install
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; them.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; unless you mean some prebuild mageia image files?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i donno if there would be demand, but you can build an image yourself if
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; you want.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry I wasn't clear. I'm looking for guest support, and was hoping
+</I>&gt;<i> someone had already built one. I have a company that would be wiling to
+</I>&gt;<i> provide Xen guests for VPS's, but is undermanned and cannot dedicate
+</I>&gt;<i> resources to building one that could be easily deployed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While I could go ahead and create a guest, I guess I'm wondering if
+</I>&gt;<i> there are any special requirements ffor such a guest so it can be
+</I>&gt;<i> re-used by other hosting companies (hopefully).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks!
+</I>
+i don't think anything special is required, the necessary guest drivers and
+xen specific stuff should already be in standard kernel/standard install
+
+i would think an install from iso/network should be easily doable and you
+won't loose that much time with it...
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 06 april 2012 23:09:25 schreef Josh King (dotmil):
+[...]
+&gt;<i> That's kind of what I'm thinking. The question is how are these
+</I>&gt;<i> redistributable? I hope someone who more Xen-foo than I can shed some
+</I>&gt;<i> light on how we could make these readily available to be added as domU
+</I>&gt;<i> images, or is there such a need?
+</I>
+well, depending on how you usually do this for the VPS offering...
+
+A) you could do a kickstart install depending on parameters
+
+B) or just install once, copy it as a template and whenever needed, you can
+copy this image and make the necessary password changes.
+
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+
+just wanted to drop a note that Release Notes needs an
+update for the newly added, really beautiful and partly animated
+Mageia E17 themes, made by Agust, which can be seen at
+<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2061">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2061</A>
+I could do a draft, but i'd prefer if that could be done by someone
+who's more used to marketing'ish / advertising writing stuff,
+because i totally suck at that.
+
+An important point is that those themes are for now
+exclusive to Mageia, and created by a Mageia user, who
+recently joined forces with artwork team, IIRC.
+
+PS: I'm not subscribed to the list, so please make sure you
+use &quot;Reply to All&quot; function so i'll also get follow-up mails.
+
+Kind Regards
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+<LI><A HREF="000836.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
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+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
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+<LI><A HREF="000830.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
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+<I>Oliver Burger
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+<LI><A HREF="000852.html">[Mageia-marketing] First draft of release texts
+</A><A NAME="852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
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+<LI><A HREF="000775.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000777.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<LI><A HREF="000801.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="801">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000802.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="802">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<LI><A HREF="000803.html">[Mageia-marketing] Priorities, who's doing what and what's next
+</A><A NAME="803">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<LI><A HREF="000804.html">[Mageia-marketing] Space on Mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="804">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+</A><A NAME="806">&nbsp;</A>
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+<LI><A HREF="000809.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="809">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000824.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+</A><A NAME="848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000849.html">[Mageia-marketing] Texts for release
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<LI><A HREF="000853.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts...
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<I>Florian Hubold
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+<I>Florian Hubold
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+<I>Florian Hubold
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000773.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Design for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000774.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Design for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000794.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="794">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000807.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="807">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000829.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000847.html">[Mageia-marketing] Here's a thought....
+</A><A NAME="847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000856.html">[Mageia-marketing] Saturday 19th May 2012
+</A><A NAME="856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000805.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000791.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="791">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000789.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="789">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000784.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000783.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000788.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="788">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000792.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="792">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000785.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="785">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000790.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="790">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000780.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000786.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="786">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000787.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="787">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000781.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000782.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000793.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="793">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000799.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="799">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000798.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="798">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000800.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="800">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000825.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000833.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000842.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000929.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000930.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000858.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000795.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="795">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000796.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="796">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000797.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="797">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000808.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 Web site changes option
+</A><A NAME="808">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000820.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000827.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000831.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000843.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000844.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000862.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Re: Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000826.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>info at librestickers.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000861.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Re: Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>info at librestickers.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000776.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000778.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000779.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000810.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="810">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000811.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000812.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="812">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000813.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="813">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000814.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="814">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000815.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="815">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000816.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="816">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000817.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="817">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000819.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000821.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000822.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000823.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000837.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000839.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000840.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000854.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts...
+</A><A NAME="854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000818.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="818">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000832.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Apr 30 21:28:50 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:14:29 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
+ <i>This archive was generated by
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+ <h1>April 2012 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Apr 2 10:42:00 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Apr 30 21:28:50 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 94<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000773.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Design for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000774.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Design for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000775.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000776.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000777.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000778.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000779.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000791.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="791">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000789.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="789">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000784.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000783.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000788.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="788">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000792.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="792">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000785.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="785">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000790.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="790">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000780.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000786.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="786">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000787.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="787">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000781.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000782.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000793.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="793">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000794.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="794">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000795.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="795">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000796.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="796">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000797.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="797">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000799.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="799">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000798.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="798">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000800.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="800">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000801.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="801">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000802.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="802">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000803.html">[Mageia-marketing] Priorities, who's doing what and what's next
+</A><A NAME="803">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000804.html">[Mageia-marketing] Space on Mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="804">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000805.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000806.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="806">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000807.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="807">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000808.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 Web site changes option
+</A><A NAME="808">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000809.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="809">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000810.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="810">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000811.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000812.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="812">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000813.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="813">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000814.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="814">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000815.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="815">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000816.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="816">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000817.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="817">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000818.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="818">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000819.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000820.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000821.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000822.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000823.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000824.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000825.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000826.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>info at librestickers.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000827.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000828.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000829.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000830.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000831.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000832.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000833.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000834.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000835.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000836.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000837.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000838.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000839.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000840.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000841.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000842.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000843.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000844.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000845.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000929.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000846.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000930.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000847.html">[Mageia-marketing] Here's a thought....
+</A><A NAME="847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000848.html">[Mageia-marketing] Here's a thought....
+</A><A NAME="848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000849.html">[Mageia-marketing] Texts for release
+</A><A NAME="849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000850.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 Web site changes option
+</A><A NAME="850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000851.html">[Mageia-marketing] First draft of release texts
+</A><A NAME="851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000852.html">[Mageia-marketing] First draft of release texts
+</A><A NAME="852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000853.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts...
+</A><A NAME="853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000854.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts...
+</A><A NAME="854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000855.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting this week
+</A><A NAME="855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000856.html">[Mageia-marketing] Saturday 19th May 2012
+</A><A NAME="856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000857.html">[Mageia-marketing] Emails lost yesterday
+</A><A NAME="857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000858.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000931.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000859.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000860.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000861.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Re: Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>info at librestickers.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000862.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Re: Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000863.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Apr 30 21:28:50 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:14:29 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
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+ <h1>April 2012 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Apr 2 10:42:00 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Apr 30 21:28:50 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 94<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000773.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Design for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000774.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Design for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000845.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000929.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000846.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000930.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000806.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="806">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000785.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="785">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000817.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="817">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000857.html">[Mageia-marketing] Emails lost yesterday
+</A><A NAME="857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000851.html">[Mageia-marketing] First draft of release texts
+</A><A NAME="851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000852.html">[Mageia-marketing] First draft of release texts
+</A><A NAME="852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000794.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="794">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000795.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="795">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000798.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="798">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000805.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000807.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="807">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000775.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000776.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000777.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000778.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000786.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="786">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000802.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="802">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000861.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Re: Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>info at librestickers.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000862.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Re: Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000788.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="788">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000815.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="815">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000847.html">[Mageia-marketing] Here's a thought....
+</A><A NAME="847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000848.html">[Mageia-marketing] Here's a thought....
+</A><A NAME="848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000792.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="792">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000810.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="810">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000816.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="816">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000790.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="790">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000782.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000809.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="809">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000808.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 Web site changes option
+</A><A NAME="808">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000850.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 Web site changes option
+</A><A NAME="850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000825.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000839.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000842.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000823.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000824.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000837.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000838.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000793.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="793">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000797.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="797">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000799.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="799">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000784.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000855.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting this week
+</A><A NAME="855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000779.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000789.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="789">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000783.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000780.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000796.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="796">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000800.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="800">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000801.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="801">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000811.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000812.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="812">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000819.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000836.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000840.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000841.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000787.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="787">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000821.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000822.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000791.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="791">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000813.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="813">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000814.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="814">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000803.html">[Mageia-marketing] Priorities, who's doing what and what's next
+</A><A NAME="803">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000826.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>info at librestickers.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000827.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000828.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000829.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000830.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000831.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000833.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000931.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000860.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000863.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000853.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts...
+</A><A NAME="853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000854.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts...
+</A><A NAME="854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000856.html">[Mageia-marketing] Saturday 19th May 2012
+</A><A NAME="856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000858.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000859.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000804.html">[Mageia-marketing] Space on Mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="804">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000849.html">[Mageia-marketing] Texts for release
+</A><A NAME="849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000781.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000818.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="818">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000820.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000832.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000834.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000835.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000843.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000844.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Apr 30 21:28:50 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:14:29 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
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+ <h1>April 2012 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Apr 2 10:42:00 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Apr 30 21:28:50 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 94<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01333356120- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000773.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Design for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333356120-01333356437- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000774.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Design for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333399815- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000775.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333399815-01333400187- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000776.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333399815-01333400187-01333401511- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000777.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333399815-01333400187-01333401511-01333401737- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000778.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01333399815-01333441064- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000786.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="786">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333399815-01333441064-01333442528- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000794.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="794">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333399815-01333441064-01333442528-01333443067- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000795.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="795">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333399815-01333441064-01333442528-01333443067-01333451844- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000802.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="802">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333399815-01333441064-01333442528-01333443067-01333451844-01333457643- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000805.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333399815-01333441064-01333442528-01333443067-01333451844-01333457643-01333466010- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000807.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="807">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333399815-01333441064-01333442528-01333446229- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000798.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="798">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333414406- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000779.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333440921- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000791.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="791">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333440921-01333510013- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000813.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="813">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01333440921-01333510548- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000814.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="814">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333440961- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000789.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="789">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333440971- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000784.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333440979- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000783.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333440993- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000788.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="788">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333440993-01333512412- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000815.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="815">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333441008- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000792.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="792">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333441008-01333556091- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000816.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="816">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333441019- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000785.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="785">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333441019-01333559605- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000817.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="817">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333441044- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000790.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="790">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333441056- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000780.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333441056-01333444223- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000796.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="796">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333441056-01333444223-01333449835- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000800.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="800">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01333441056-01333444223-01333451686- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000801.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="801">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333441056-01333444223-01333451686-01333507293- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000812.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="812">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01333441056-01333562657- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000819.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333441076- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000787.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="787">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333441076-01333581810- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000821.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01333441076-01333583377- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000822.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333441093- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000781.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333441105- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000782.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333441105-01333488395- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000809.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="809">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333442251- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000793.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="793">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333442251-01333445135- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000797.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="797">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333442251-01333445135-01333445393- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000799.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="799">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333453511- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000803.html">[Mageia-marketing] Priorities, who's doing what and what's next
+</A><A NAME="803">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333454647- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000804.html">[Mageia-marketing] Space on Mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="804">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333458800- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000806.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="806">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333467855- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000808.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 Web site changes option
+</A><A NAME="808">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333467855-01333932583- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000850.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 Web site changes option
+</A><A NAME="850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333501653- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000810.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="810">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333504291- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000811.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333562029- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000818.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="818">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333562029-01333568393- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000820.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333562029-01333568393-01333646649- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000832.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333562029-01333568393-01333646649-01333670047- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000834.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333562029-01333568393-01333646649-01333700304- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000844.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333591070- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000823.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333591070-01333592512- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000824.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333591070-01333592512-01333680764- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000837.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333591070-01333592512-01333680764-01333683531- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000838.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333614730- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000825.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333614730-01333684401- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000839.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333614730-01333684401-01333696215- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000842.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333627101- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000826.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>info at librestickers.com
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333627101-01333628042- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000827.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333627101-01333628042-01333629500- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000828.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333627101-01333628042-01333629500-01333633229- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000829.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333627101-01333628042-01333629500-01333633229-01333637346- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000831.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333627101-01333628042-01333629500-01333633229-01333655033- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000833.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333627101-01333628042-01333629500-01333633811- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000830.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333671748- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000835.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333671748-01333700162- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000843.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333674545- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000836.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333674545-01333684911- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000840.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333674545-01333684911-01333685735- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000841.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333722224- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000845.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333722224-01333727602- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000929.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333746565- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000846.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333746565-01333783080- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000930.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333820820- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000847.html">[Mageia-marketing] Here's a thought....
+</A><A NAME="847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333820820-01333841597- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000848.html">[Mageia-marketing] Here's a thought....
+</A><A NAME="848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333926908- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000849.html">[Mageia-marketing] Texts for release
+</A><A NAME="849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333972670- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000851.html">[Mageia-marketing] First draft of release texts
+</A><A NAME="851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333972670-01333986853- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000852.html">[Mageia-marketing] First draft of release texts
+</A><A NAME="852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01334237910- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000853.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts...
+</A><A NAME="853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01334237910-01334238724- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000854.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts...
+</A><A NAME="854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01334696822- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000855.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting this week
+</A><A NAME="855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01335039690- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000856.html">[Mageia-marketing] Saturday 19th May 2012
+</A><A NAME="856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01335131533- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000857.html">[Mageia-marketing] Emails lost yesterday
+</A><A NAME="857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01335362894- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000858.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01335362894-01335521517- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000859.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01335472289- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000931.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01335551233- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000860.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01335551233-01335814130- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000863.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01335736697- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000861.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Re: Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>info at librestickers.com
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01335736697-01335779609- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000862.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Re: Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Apr 30 21:28:50 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:14:29 CEST 2012</i>
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