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Thornton</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20Other%20ideas&In-Reply-To=%3C4F7AD46B.60704%40NorthTech.US%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas">Bradley at NorthTech.US + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 3 12:43:55 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000796.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000801.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#800">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#800">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#800">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#800">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: RIPEMD160 + + + +On 04/03/2012 02:10 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> * globally, there little, if any, direction, regarding our Web +</I>><i> resources at large; I'm responsible for that. Historically, I happen +</I>><i> to manage www and most of its content; I welcome contributions, but +</I>><i> indeed, I'd vet them, as a maintainer; Web team is sleeping, if still +</I>><i> alive; that's an issue to me too, because although I have pending +</I>><i> work, so far, it's still a one-man work (such as a coming redesign for +</I>><i> the home page I started to draft) and it needs more directed +</I>><i> discussion, and progress with actual code and production, to go +</I>><i> forward. In short, it sucks for the time being. +</I> +Well then... ;) I feel your pain :) + +I've been a member of the sysadmin team now for oh, I dunno, maybe 15 or +16 months or so. I haven't bothered to try and offer any of my services +there in over a year now, however, basically because of what you and Max +have reported in the last couple of posts. + +I became more than interested in MarCom primarily because of you rda. I +suppose I could dig up the post in my personal archives somewhere but I +won't so please forgive me for my paraphrasing of your statement. + +You said something to the effect of, "Here on the marketing team we will +have the unenviable opportunity to be overworked, overlooked, not +acknowledged and contributing much of most. Welcome!" (I told you my +paraphrase wouldn't do you much justice lol). + +I took that as a challenge, and have put forth effort where I could, and +also when I could. I almost folded a couple of times but decided to just +lay out instead because there's usually an ebb and flow. + +I completely understand the lack of time when we have to work on other +things for our rice and top ramen LOL. So don't beat yourself up Romain ;) + +Basically, what I am is a systems engineer and sysadmin. That's what +I've been doing since ARPAnet/MILnet days. I'm also a service provider. + +To me, three or four days to process a request is bordering on +negligence. We're seeing three and four months here. It takes litterally +45 seconds to create a user account, another minute to create a database +for that person and three or four minutes to create a VirtualHost +container so they can SSH in, do their work, upload their stuff, and +dance around in ecstasy. + +I had no idea that even Max, being a Team Lead, was having such... Well +I can't even begin to imagine his frustration - it far exceeds what +we've been seeing here at MarCom. At least our team itself is pretty good :) + +So what I think *might* help alleviate some of the problems here, at +least wrt prototyping and sandboxing, etc., would be to offer to deploy +a Mageia box for such purposes. + +The only thing that would be left *wanting* is for whomever handles the +DNS to add an A RR here and there. + +I would recommend that All development of the sort that Josh has been +doing adhere to a standard convention like agile or whatev, although I +could really care less and people could actually fly by the seat of +their pants. + +What I mean by that is that it is prudent, to have development take +place on a desktop or home server, and then push everything up with git +and similar RCS tools to, let's call it a staging box that I launch for +MarCom. + +I would give the root credentials to you and/or Trish, and aside from +snapshotting it, will take no part in administration of this box. My +stuff is in a private suite in One Wilshire, all storage is on a SAN +cluster, and so far I run a 100% Proliant network farm - no commodity boxes. + +I've owned my own IP blocks for twenty years that were given to me by +nic.ddn.mil back in my MILnet days and command my own reverse DNS +directly at ARIN. + +At this time I can deploy a box under ESXi 5 - fully HA fault tolerant +and clustered. For what we need I figure 512MB RAM and a couple of Xeon +cores will suffice - I can make adjustments where necessary but for a +web and database server that should be more than enough unless a bunch +of people are running Eclipse or Netbeans or something. + +No ircd stuff or problematic daemons like that at this time please. +Anything not mentioned just lemme know and I'll prolly give it a nod as +long as it isn't something that script kiddies like to roll around in. + +If more types of database servers are needed I may need to bump the RAM +a bit if traffic gets heavy, but it should be fine for MariaDB/MySQL, +PostgreSQL, and maybe even Sybase or Oracle 9i all at the same time - I +have noncom free licenses for the latter two if anyone needs to run +stuff that off the wall. + +I would prefer to wait a couple or three weeks and then deploy it under +Xen, which would completely remove me from the loop, provide you with a +virtual serial console, and you would be responsible for all +backups/snapshots yourself. + +If the need is urgent I could deploy the machine under VMware, but I +will have to do the install myself and turn over the root pwd to you. + +If we can wait a couple of weeks I can simply provide you with the +customer portal credentials where you can manage this server, do one +click backups, destroy/reinstall from various distros (yes Mageia is one +of them and presumably the one we want to run Mageia related stuff +under), start/stop the box, etc. + +The reason we would need to wait a couple of weeks for the Xen is +because at the moment, I have no stock. my stuff is in pretty high +demand and I'm sitting on three new Proliant's that I have to configure +the iLO for and then take then down to the datacenter and rack them. +Then I have to enable the stock in inventory. + +I will do no firewalling. That's up to you, and you know what the big +bad world is like out there. + +Personally, on all of my own machinery, you can't even FTP - only SCP or +SFTP, often to obscure port numbers, but it's all just the same thing if +you use Dreamweaver, Filezilla, Bluefish, whatev. I also usually enable +X11-Forwarding so a simple 'ssh -Y box.sld.tld' will usually suffice to +run whichever GUI apps that one really needs on the box. + +I would offer to do more, launch a box, harden it, administer security +and access, etc., but given the cold shoulder I got when I joined the +sysadmin team almost a year and a half ago I figure they should be +accountable for something. + +If that works out, bear in mind I have unlimited bandwidth, unlimited +resources once I allocate them, and PB's of SAN storage. + +Oh, one other thing. More than anything I was making a suggestion as to +MariaDB to be the default INSTEAD of MySQL - no one can tell the +difference anyway, except that the prompt is different and it runs +circles around MySQL - it's the same thing by the same guy, but I +suppose that's a matter for the council and packaging team to deliberate +(Just thought I'd throw that bone out there :) ). + +Well, think on that. And if it's something that will benefit the +community I'm more than happy to provide it. Sorry I can't be much help +with the actual web design stuff, I wish my CSS and javascript was better. + +This would enable people to have sandboxes or prototype/poc stuff +without burdening the main Mageia server resources (Mine are I'm sure +more robust anyway). Whoever holds root though, I EXPECT that they will +be responsible when it comes to DR and security, as well as the creation +of DBs and VirtualHost containers and non-priv'd user accounts so those +who need to can sandbox. + +I'm sorry I'm not offering more in the way of actually managing the box +for the community, hardening, and taking on a more active management +role with it, but I just don't see the responsiveness from other parts +of the community that I would require to take on that role, let alone +the responsibility - Max, Josh, you, and others are expressing a lot of +frustration there and I'm just not willing to put in that much work w/o +knowing it will actually be utilized. + +Lemme know. Or if you have any thoughts on the matter, since this is an +open ended offer take your time and moll it around with a few other +(responsible and reactive) folks in the appropriate places before +getting back to me. On or offlist. + +tallship now removes removes his SA hat and puts his MarCom hat back on +coz it's fun and challenging and outside his comfort zone :) + +Kindest regards, + +- -- +Bradley D. 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