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+ <H1>[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release</H1>
+ <B>Bradley D. Thornton</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release">Bradley at NorthTech.US
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+ <I>Wed Apr 6 14:26:39 CEST 2011</I>
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+On 04/06/2011 03:12 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:36, Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> These are things we should be collecting the particulars of, and who are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the managers of those role accounts, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep, but that requires a team to be setup and to show regular
+</I>&gt;<i> attendance and to have a clear lead - not that you aren't beginning
+</I>&gt;<i> now, but the marcom teams activity record is still in its infancy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So far, those aliases are managed through the board and maybe a few
+</I>&gt;<i> founding members.
+</I>
+Well I don't know what Trish's schedule is like, but I idle in #chan
+most of the time, maintain archives of it, and can respond quite
+regularly to any /query's or /msg's sent to me ther (tallship).
+
+I believe that we can whip out a convention for the creation of the
+email aliases to delegate to the council since they've seemingly taken
+over the sysadmin team's job too, and we'll see if they actually act on
+it, or pass it by like the forum/email list integration listed below as
+a priority a few months ago.
+
+We need a bit of reciprocity here. We can't be waiting on the horse for
+the cart and be expected to deliver the grain before the horse arrives
+to pull us along.
+
+There's a lot of infrastructure we requested and decided upon having
+here, and yet await.
+
+If the council would rather do everything themselves instead, then more
+power to them.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regardless, we do need a few role accounts...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And we don't have a marcom group in the forums either, and this was
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> discussed at length on the list here too (you'll recall the discussions
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> about whether we would stick with the existing FudForum software we had
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> been provided or whether we would be moving to other software at the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mageia.org proper site ;) ). Who do we talk to to get this corrected?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not aware of (or don't remember about) that. If you are to use a
+</I>&gt;<i> Web-based forum, you would gain in using <A HREF="http://forums.mageia.org">http://forums.mageia.org</A> -
+</I>&gt;<i> but be aware that:
+</I>&gt;<i> - you will get a higher scrutinity there - not that it's bad, but
+</I>&gt;<i> it's important to know;
+</I>&gt;<i> - you will have to manage hiatuses between your forum and your
+</I>&gt;<i> mailing-list, some people not reading/using both.
+</I>
+Yes that was discussed at length, Wolfgang brought up the significance
+of syncing the forums and the email lists so that two disparate groups
+didn't begin to emerge independant of each other due to the lack of
+preference for one medium over the other.
+
+A simple technical detail that I'm wholly in favor of, although I myself
+prefer to use email lists themselves :)
+
+And forums archive better for search indexing.
+
+That discussion is archived (Don't tell me if we don't archive this
+Mailman list - that would be very bad and I would rather not know if
+that were the case) on this list - the particular discussion being
+spawned on 24 January 2011.
+
+We've waited for about six months now as a team, and suddenly the
+'council' is arbitrarily creating lists and contact points without input
+or direction, or researching what has already been prepared and waiting
+on their actual formation?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Finally, I have to go back and ask again, &quot;Who is, or collectively are,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the people responsible for posting such possibly inappropriate material
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on our facebook page like:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.facebook.com/Mageia#!/photo.php?fbid=1371504459899&amp;set=o.157247240967735&amp;theater">http://www.facebook.com/Mageia#!/photo.php?fbid=1371504459899&amp;set=o.157247240967735&amp;theater</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ???
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Removed. That's more a matter of curation/moderation. The Facebook
+</I>&gt;<i> page is public and everyone can post to it (and that's good) but could
+</I>&gt;<i> be better animated, if we can focus someone more on this, yes (that
+</I>&gt;<i> role is in the users/forums/ml/community teams that are not really
+</I>&gt;<i> setup either at this time - maybe you could try to ignite that).
+</I>
+hm... :)
+
+I did run over and throw a few posts out just to help in filling the
+forums with some kruft and content so it can get going. I noticed
+several others trying to do the same thing too :)
+
+Eventually, we won't have to work so hard at that, and the business of
+helping people with technical support issues will replace the
+artificially prompted posts in the very beginning ;)
+
+But as of now, I'm pretty much kaput. I wanted to spend some time
+staying in synch with the discussion list here, and yes, I'm a little
+frustrated that many of the things that appeared to be resolved on the
+list here were seemingly disregarded when it came time to implement, and
+simply arbitrarily taken on as a task by the 'council' and some
+'founders' w/o input, approval, or direction from this team.
+
+It seems a bit ironic that we had to wait for those things to happen
+(the seating of the council) and then all of the things we had in place
+(throughout the archives of this list) haven't been attended to by those
+we waited to create a position for, so it could be done by them.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.760.666.2703 (US)
+TEL: +44.702.405.1909 (UK)
+<A HREF="http://NorthTech.US">http://NorthTech.US</A>
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