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+Macxi,<br><br>I used your picture of the window and set your bug as &quot;See also&quot; in mine. Hope you don&#39;t mind.<br><br>Alejandro.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Alejandro López <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:listas.apl@gmail.com" target="_blank">listas.apl@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Morgan Leijström <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:fri@tribun.eu" target="_blank">fri@tribun.eu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Please post a enhancment request at <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/" target="_blank">https://bugs.mageia.org/</a><br>
+And try to propose different wording and that third alternative.<br></blockquote></div><div><br>Done.<br><br><a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6086" target="_blank">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6086</a><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+<br>Alejandro.<br>
+<br> </font></span></div><div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+/Morgan<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+torsdagen den 24 maj <a href="tel:2012%2016.31.55" value="+12012163155" target="_blank">2012 16.31.55</a> skrev  Alejandro López:<br>
+<div><div>&gt; Macxi,<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I understood the &quot;Do not ask me next time&quot; meant that the next upgrade, the<br>
+&gt; upgrade to Mageia 3, would happen automatically, without asking me. That&#39;s<br>
+&gt; why I didn&#39;t check it. Now you tell me it means &quot;Do not upgrade to Mageia 2<br>
+&gt; and stop asking me to do so.&quot; Waw! This message really needs to be clearer.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Nevertheless, my proposition was not related to these two options but about<br>
+&gt; adding a third one saying something like &quot;Do not stop on errors.&quot; So I<br>
+&gt; guess it should be treated separatelly from yours (even thought I would<br>
+&gt; like to see both of them implemented).<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Cheers,<br>
+&gt; Alejandro.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Macxi &lt;<a href="mailto:terraagua@gmail.com" target="_blank">terraagua@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; &gt; Em qui 24 mai 2012, às 09:52:15, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati escreveu:<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; On Thursday 24 May 2012 08:09 my mailbox was graced by a message from<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; Alejandro López who wrote:<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Well, this is my proposition. What do you people think about it?<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; Sounds both logical and reasonable.<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; No doubt reasons will be found not to do it  ;-3)<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; Cheers,<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; Ron.<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Alejandro and Ron,<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Yesterday I opened a topic in Mageia Forum (en) about it, to discuss this<br>
+&gt; &gt; improvement:<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Distribution Upgrade Mageia 1 to Mageia 2<br>
+&gt; &gt; <a href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&amp;t=2506" target="_blank">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&amp;t=2506</a><br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; And now, I opened a bug report:<br>
+&gt; &gt; Bug 6068 - The texts of the dialog windows of Mageia Upgrade are not<br>
+&gt; &gt; clear enough<br>
+&gt; &gt; <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6068" target="_blank">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6068</a><br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; I still have no suggestions about it.<br>
+&gt; &gt; But as Alejandro, I also am concerned about this option, it seems, for a<br>
+&gt; &gt; beginner, the best option, but I think technically more complicated and<br>
+&gt; &gt; danger<br>
+&gt; &gt; of breaking the system.<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Cheers<br>
+&gt; &gt; Macxi<br>
+<br>
+</div></div><span><font color="#888888">--<br>
+Morgan Leijström<br>
+</font></span></blockquote></div></div></div><br>
+</blockquote></div><br>
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+Macxi,<br><br>I used your picture of the window and set your bug as &quot;See also&quot; in mine. Hope you don&#39;t mind.<br><br>Alejandro.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Alejandro López <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:listas.apl@gmail.com" target="_blank">listas.apl@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Morgan Leijström <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:fri@tribun.eu" target="_blank">fri@tribun.eu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Please post a enhancment request at <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/" target="_blank">https://bugs.mageia.org/</a><br>
+And try to propose different wording and that third alternative.<br></blockquote></div><div><br>Done.<br><br><a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6086" target="_blank">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6086</a><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+<br>Alejandro.<br>
+<br> </font></span></div><div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+/Morgan<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+torsdagen den 24 maj <a href="tel:2012%2016.31.55" value="+12012163155" target="_blank">2012 16.31.55</a> skrev  Alejandro López:<br>
+<div><div>&gt; Macxi,<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I understood the &quot;Do not ask me next time&quot; meant that the next upgrade, the<br>
+&gt; upgrade to Mageia 3, would happen automatically, without asking me. That&#39;s<br>
+&gt; why I didn&#39;t check it. Now you tell me it means &quot;Do not upgrade to Mageia 2<br>
+&gt; and stop asking me to do so.&quot; Waw! This message really needs to be clearer.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Nevertheless, my proposition was not related to these two options but about<br>
+&gt; adding a third one saying something like &quot;Do not stop on errors.&quot; So I<br>
+&gt; guess it should be treated separatelly from yours (even thought I would<br>
+&gt; like to see both of them implemented).<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Cheers,<br>
+&gt; Alejandro.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Macxi &lt;<a href="mailto:terraagua@gmail.com" target="_blank">terraagua@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; &gt; Em qui 24 mai 2012, às 09:52:15, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati escreveu:<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; On Thursday 24 May 2012 08:09 my mailbox was graced by a message from<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; Alejandro López who wrote:<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Well, this is my proposition. What do you people think about it?<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; Sounds both logical and reasonable.<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; No doubt reasons will be found not to do it  ;-3)<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; Cheers,<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; Ron.<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Alejandro and Ron,<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Yesterday I opened a topic in Mageia Forum (en) about it, to discuss this<br>
+&gt; &gt; improvement:<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Distribution Upgrade Mageia 1 to Mageia 2<br>
+&gt; &gt; <a href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&amp;t=2506" target="_blank">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&amp;t=2506</a><br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; And now, I opened a bug report:<br>
+&gt; &gt; Bug 6068 - The texts of the dialog windows of Mageia Upgrade are not<br>
+&gt; &gt; clear enough<br>
+&gt; &gt; <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6068" target="_blank">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6068</a><br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; I still have no suggestions about it.<br>
+&gt; &gt; But as Alejandro, I also am concerned about this option, it seems, for a<br>
+&gt; &gt; beginner, the best option, but I think technically more complicated and<br>
+&gt; &gt; danger<br>
+&gt; &gt; of breaking the system.<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Cheers<br>
+&gt; &gt; Macxi<br>
+<br>
+</div></div><span><font color="#888888">--<br>
+Morgan Leijström<br>
+</font></span></blockquote></div></div></div><br>
+</blockquote></div><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Dimitrios Glentadakis <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:dglent@gmail.com" target="_blank">dglent@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+The boot is during a few minutes because it stalls for a while in the<br>
+&quot;Started /home&quot;<br>
+How can i skip/disable this step ?<br>
+<br>
+<a href="http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7646/startedhome.jpg" target="_blank">http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7646/startedhome.jpg</a><br>
+<br>
+</blockquote><div><br>I faced a similar problem yestenday when I switched from &quot;nouveau&quot; to the nvidia
+propietary driver. So I&#39;m now using noveau again until I have time to
+investigate what happened.<br>
+<br>
+In my case, it would hang at a different point on each boot.<br>
+<br>
+HTH,<br>
+Alejandro.<br>
+ 
+<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<br>
+Thanks<br>
+<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Dimitrios Glentadakis<br>
+</font></span></blockquote></div><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Dimitrios Glentadakis <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:dglent@gmail.com" target="_blank">dglent@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+The boot is during a few minutes because it stalls for a while in the<br>
+&quot;Started /home&quot;<br>
+How can i skip/disable this step ?<br>
+<br>
+<a href="http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7646/startedhome.jpg" target="_blank">http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7646/startedhome.jpg</a><br>
+<br>
+</blockquote><div><br>I faced a similar problem yestenday when I switched from &quot;nouveau&quot; to the nvidia
+propietary driver. So I&#39;m now using noveau again until I have time to
+investigate what happened.<br>
+<br>
+In my case, it would hang at a different point on each boot.<br>
+<br>
+HTH,<br>
+Alejandro.<br>
+ 
+<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<br>
+Thanks<br>
+<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Dimitrios Glentadakis<br>
+</font></span></blockquote></div><br>
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+<p>I migrated to kmail2 and i cannot send messages. I have the error message: &quot;Unknown collection&quot;</p>
+<p>I use gmail with imap</p>
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+<p>I migrated to kmail2 and i cannot send messages. I have the error message: &quot;Unknown collection&quot;</p>
+<p>I use gmail with imap</p>
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+<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body>Question, does flip switch work, if not did you see the nvidia logo, if not check your xorg.conf and make sure the driver is nvidia and not nv<div><br></div><div>Regards peter<br><br><br><br><br><span style="font-size:100%">Sent from Samsung tablet</span> </div><br><br><br>Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;dglent@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br><br><br>2012/5/24, Richard &lt;richardwest@leiston.info&gt;:<br>&gt; On Thursday, May 24, 2012 09:04:41 PM Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Le 24 mai 2012 20:49, "John Balcaen" &lt;mikala@mageia.org&gt; a écrit :<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Le 24 mai 2012 01:11, "Dimitrios Glentadakis" &lt;dglent@gmail.com&gt; a écrit<br>&gt;&gt; :<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; I upgraded to Mageia 2 from Mageia 1. After reboot, in KDE i have the<br>&gt; screen upside down. The windows title is correct but the content of the<br>&gt; windows that belong to the bottom area are in the top, and the words are<br>&gt; written from right to left. I rebooted again but the problem is always<br>&gt; present. My system is unusable now. I have nvidia card.<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; Any idea ?<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt; It seems to be a krandr configuration problem.<br>&gt;&gt; Could you check your ~/.kde4/share/config/krandrrc file?<br>&gt; Now i can log to kde normaly.<br>&gt; I installed the nvidia drivers from nonfree or tainted repo and after 1 - 2<br>&gt;<br>&gt; reboot it is fixed.<br>&gt; Now, i have another problem. I have enabled the effects in kwin but i have a<br>&gt;<br>&gt; message with a list of effect plugins that cannot be enabled. So i dont have<br>&gt;<br>&gt; any effect.<br>&gt; Another problem is with kmail. I have a message in first launch of kmail to<br>&gt;<br>&gt; migrate to kmail2. I choosed ok and the wizard crashed with a message that<br>&gt; if<br>&gt; i want to migrate later manually i have to launch kmail-migrator --<br>&gt; interactive. But when i launch it i have the message:<br>&gt; kmail-migrator(3971) main: Migration of kmailrc has alreadyrun,not running<br>&gt; it<br>&gt; again<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Try deleting .kde4/share/config/kmail-migratorrc and try again. Worked for<br>&gt; me.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; --<br>&gt; Richard.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; http://www.leiston.info<br>&gt;<br><br><br>Yes, this worked fine<br>Thanks!<br><br>-- <br>Dimitrios Glentadakis<br><br> </body> \ No newline at end of file
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+<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body>Question, does flip switch work, if not did you see the nvidia logo, if not check your xorg.conf and make sure the driver is nvidia and not nv<div><br></div><div>Regards peter<br><br><br><br><br><span style="font-size:100%">Sent from Samsung tablet</span> </div><br><br><br>Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;dglent@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br><br><br>2012/5/24, Richard &lt;richardwest@leiston.info&gt;:<br>&gt; On Thursday, May 24, 2012 09:04:41 PM Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Le 24 mai 2012 20:49, "John Balcaen" &lt;mikala@mageia.org&gt; a écrit :<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Le 24 mai 2012 01:11, "Dimitrios Glentadakis" &lt;dglent@gmail.com&gt; a écrit<br>&gt;&gt; :<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; I upgraded to Mageia 2 from Mageia 1. After reboot, in KDE i have the<br>&gt; screen upside down. The windows title is correct but the content of the<br>&gt; windows that belong to the bottom area are in the top, and the words are<br>&gt; written from right to left. I rebooted again but the problem is always<br>&gt; present. My system is unusable now. I have nvidia card.<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; Any idea ?<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt; It seems to be a krandr configuration problem.<br>&gt;&gt; Could you check your ~/.kde4/share/config/krandrrc file?<br>&gt; Now i can log to kde normaly.<br>&gt; I installed the nvidia drivers from nonfree or tainted repo and after 1 - 2<br>&gt;<br>&gt; reboot it is fixed.<br>&gt; Now, i have another problem. I have enabled the effects in kwin but i have a<br>&gt;<br>&gt; message with a list of effect plugins that cannot be enabled. So i dont have<br>&gt;<br>&gt; any effect.<br>&gt; Another problem is with kmail. I have a message in first launch of kmail to<br>&gt;<br>&gt; migrate to kmail2. I choosed ok and the wizard crashed with a message that<br>&gt; if<br>&gt; i want to migrate later manually i have to launch kmail-migrator --<br>&gt; interactive. But when i launch it i have the message:<br>&gt; kmail-migrator(3971) main: Migration of kmailrc has alreadyrun,not running<br>&gt; it<br>&gt; again<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Try deleting .kde4/share/config/kmail-migratorrc and try again. Worked for<br>&gt; me.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; --<br>&gt; Richard.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; http://www.leiston.info<br>&gt;<br><br><br>Yes, this worked fine<br>Thanks!<br><br>-- <br>Dimitrios Glentadakis<br><br> </body> \ No newline at end of file
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+<p class="MsoNormal" style><span lang="EN-US" style>I created a phrase (slogan to the
+Mageia) in the Facebok of the Mageia that symbolizes the spirit of the Mageia.
+It would be a type of a “marketing” of  the distro like a saying.
+Generally, companies have saying or mottos like this: <b><i>“satisfaction
+guaranteed or money back”.</i></b> It’s a phrase that it’s the company meaning
+in few words.The Merrian Webster’ dictionary tranlates the motto as the
+following meaning: a sentence, phrase, or word inscribed on something as
+appropriate to or indicative of its character or use. The phrase, motto or
+saying to the Mageia is the following:</span></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal" style><b><i><span lang="EN-US" style>“Mageia is the present and the
+future.”</span></i></b><span lang="EN-US" style> The
+users at the facebook liked this motto (slogan). It means Mageia is the present
+because of its quality and stability for the reason Mageia is at the top of
+distrowatch (at 7<sup>th</sup>. Position now). The other distros at start of
+mageia didn’t believe it.They desdained Mageia. The future because Mageia is a
+community, an organization and It came to stay with us and offer the best in
+the future.Thus, if you choose it, It could be included for the Mageia 3
+besides the logo as a signal.It’s just a suggestion. I hope you get me.You can
+view more opinios at the Mageias forums there <a href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476</a></span></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal" style><span lang="EN-US" style>It’s a simple phrase that it means
+the spirit of Mageia freedom.</span></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal" style><span lang="EN-US" style>Cheers.</span></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal" style><span lang="EN-US" style>Otto Sá</span></p><br>
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+<p class="MsoNormal" style><span lang="EN-US" style>I created a phrase (slogan to the
+Mageia) in the Facebok of the Mageia that symbolizes the spirit of the Mageia.
+It would be a type of a “marketing” of  the distro like a saying.
+Generally, companies have saying or mottos like this: <b><i>“satisfaction
+guaranteed or money back”.</i></b> It’s a phrase that it’s the company meaning
+in few words.The Merrian Webster’ dictionary tranlates the motto as the
+following meaning: a sentence, phrase, or word inscribed on something as
+appropriate to or indicative of its character or use. The phrase, motto or
+saying to the Mageia is the following:</span></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal" style><b><i><span lang="EN-US" style>“Mageia is the present and the
+future.”</span></i></b><span lang="EN-US" style> The
+users at the facebook liked this motto (slogan). It means Mageia is the present
+because of its quality and stability for the reason Mageia is at the top of
+distrowatch (at 7<sup>th</sup>. Position now). The other distros at start of
+mageia didn’t believe it.They desdained Mageia. The future because Mageia is a
+community, an organization and It came to stay with us and offer the best in
+the future.Thus, if you choose it, It could be included for the Mageia 3
+besides the logo as a signal.It’s just a suggestion. I hope you get me.You can
+view more opinios at the Mageias forums there <a href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476</a></span></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal" style><span lang="EN-US" style>It’s a simple phrase that it means
+the spirit of Mageia freedom.</span></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal" style><span lang="EN-US" style>Cheers.</span></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal" style><span lang="EN-US" style>Otto Sá</span></p><br>
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+<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body>Im also agreeing on the theme, dont like oxygen at all, but found installing the kde-oroa rpm (cant remember exact spelling) i was then able to select the familia M* theme in kde control pannel.<div><br></div><div>Regards peter (wintpe on forum)<br><br><br><br><br><span style="font-size:100%">Sent from Samsung tablet</span> </div><br><br><br>AL13N &lt;alien@rmail.be&gt; wrote:<br><br><br>&gt; On Thu, 24 May 2012 16:14:27 -0400<br>&gt; Marc Paré &lt;marc@marcpare.com&gt; wrote:<br>[...]<br>&gt; I agree with all Marc's comments, but perhaps he and I aren't typical<br>&gt; (I am almost 70.)<br>&gt;<br>&gt; The choice of Window Decorations:&nbsp; I don't like the Oxygen theme<br>&gt; either, but it is the KDE standard.&nbsp; Plastik is one of my favorites as<br>&gt; well.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; The Cursor theme: Once again, this is standard.&nbsp; I have changed to the<br>&gt; blue version of Marc's White Glass.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Nepomuk:&nbsp; I am using XFCE.&nbsp; I hate KDE's attempts to cover the screen<br>&gt; with information popups.&nbsp; I set aside .75 of a Gig for a Home Directory<br>&gt; in my test setup, running KDE. 630 MB of it is used up in hidden<br>&gt; directories, with 149 MB in Akonadi.&nbsp; Long gone are the days when a<br>&gt; whole distro would fit in 2 GB. When I do switch to KDE,<br>&gt; indexing makes startup take about as long as in Windows. That should<br>&gt; make the team at KDE happy!<br><br>Actually I too am of the same-ish opinion:<br><br>A. I don't like oxygen theme as well<br>B. Cursor theme blends too well indeed<br>C. Nepomuk, i often do stuff, and /home becomes huge, i don't really<br>need/want indexing. i wouldn't know what benefits it could have...<br><br>usually, i know where something is, and in the rare event that i lost<br>something, it could very well be on other PCs, so a find will do at that<br>time.<br><br>unless it also indexes the email and makes email searches faster, i won't<br>need it.<br><br> </body> \ No newline at end of file
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+<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body>Im also agreeing on the theme, dont like oxygen at all, but found installing the kde-oroa rpm (cant remember exact spelling) i was then able to select the familia M* theme in kde control pannel.<div><br></div><div>Regards peter (wintpe on forum)<br><br><br><br><br><span style="font-size:100%">Sent from Samsung tablet</span> </div><br><br><br>AL13N &lt;alien@rmail.be&gt; wrote:<br><br><br>&gt; On Thu, 24 May 2012 16:14:27 -0400<br>&gt; Marc Paré &lt;marc@marcpare.com&gt; wrote:<br>[...]<br>&gt; I agree with all Marc's comments, but perhaps he and I aren't typical<br>&gt; (I am almost 70.)<br>&gt;<br>&gt; The choice of Window Decorations:&nbsp; I don't like the Oxygen theme<br>&gt; either, but it is the KDE standard.&nbsp; Plastik is one of my favorites as<br>&gt; well.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; The Cursor theme: Once again, this is standard.&nbsp; I have changed to the<br>&gt; blue version of Marc's White Glass.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Nepomuk:&nbsp; I am using XFCE.&nbsp; I hate KDE's attempts to cover the screen<br>&gt; with information popups.&nbsp; I set aside .75 of a Gig for a Home Directory<br>&gt; in my test setup, running KDE. 630 MB of it is used up in hidden<br>&gt; directories, with 149 MB in Akonadi.&nbsp; Long gone are the days when a<br>&gt; whole distro would fit in 2 GB. When I do switch to KDE,<br>&gt; indexing makes startup take about as long as in Windows. That should<br>&gt; make the team at KDE happy!<br><br>Actually I too am of the same-ish opinion:<br><br>A. I don't like oxygen theme as well<br>B. Cursor theme blends too well indeed<br>C. Nepomuk, i often do stuff, and /home becomes huge, i don't really<br>need/want indexing. i wouldn't know what benefits it could have...<br><br>usually, i know where something is, and in the rare event that i lost<br>something, it could very well be on other PCs, so a find will do at that<br>time.<br><br>unless it also indexes the email and makes email searches faster, i won't<br>need it.<br><br> </body> \ No newline at end of file
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Morgan Leijström <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:fri@tribun.eu" target="_blank">fri@tribun.eu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Please post a enhancment request at <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/" target="_blank">https://bugs.mageia.org/</a><br>
+And try to propose different wording and that third alternative.<br></blockquote><div><br>Done.<br><br><a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6086">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6086</a><br><br>Alejandro.<br>
+<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+/Morgan<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+torsdagen den 24 maj <a href="tel:2012%2016.31.55" value="+12012163155">2012 16.31.55</a> skrev  Alejandro López:<br>
+<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">&gt; Macxi,<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I understood the &quot;Do not ask me next time&quot; meant that the next upgrade, the<br>
+&gt; upgrade to Mageia 3, would happen automatically, without asking me. That&#39;s<br>
+&gt; why I didn&#39;t check it. Now you tell me it means &quot;Do not upgrade to Mageia 2<br>
+&gt; and stop asking me to do so.&quot; Waw! This message really needs to be clearer.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Nevertheless, my proposition was not related to these two options but about<br>
+&gt; adding a third one saying something like &quot;Do not stop on errors.&quot; So I<br>
+&gt; guess it should be treated separatelly from yours (even thought I would<br>
+&gt; like to see both of them implemented).<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Cheers,<br>
+&gt; Alejandro.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Macxi &lt;<a href="mailto:terraagua@gmail.com">terraagua@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; &gt; Em qui 24 mai 2012, às 09:52:15, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati escreveu:<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; On Thursday 24 May 2012 08:09 my mailbox was graced by a message from<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; Alejandro López who wrote:<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Well, this is my proposition. What do you people think about it?<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; Sounds both logical and reasonable.<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; No doubt reasons will be found not to do it  ;-3)<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; Cheers,<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; Ron.<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Alejandro and Ron,<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Yesterday I opened a topic in Mageia Forum (en) about it, to discuss this<br>
+&gt; &gt; improvement:<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Distribution Upgrade Mageia 1 to Mageia 2<br>
+&gt; &gt; <a href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&amp;t=2506" target="_blank">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&amp;t=2506</a><br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; And now, I opened a bug report:<br>
+&gt; &gt; Bug 6068 - The texts of the dialog windows of Mageia Upgrade are not<br>
+&gt; &gt; clear enough<br>
+&gt; &gt; <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6068" target="_blank">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6068</a><br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; I still have no suggestions about it.<br>
+&gt; &gt; But as Alejandro, I also am concerned about this option, it seems, for a<br>
+&gt; &gt; beginner, the best option, but I think technically more complicated and<br>
+&gt; &gt; danger<br>
+&gt; &gt; of breaking the system.<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Cheers<br>
+&gt; &gt; Macxi<br>
+<br>
+</div></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">--<br>
+Morgan Leijström<br>
+</font></span></blockquote></div><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Morgan Leijström <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:fri@tribun.eu" target="_blank">fri@tribun.eu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Please post a enhancment request at <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/" target="_blank">https://bugs.mageia.org/</a><br>
+And try to propose different wording and that third alternative.<br></blockquote><div><br>Done.<br><br><a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6086">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6086</a><br><br>Alejandro.<br>
+<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+/Morgan<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+torsdagen den 24 maj <a href="tel:2012%2016.31.55" value="+12012163155">2012 16.31.55</a> skrev  Alejandro López:<br>
+<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">&gt; Macxi,<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I understood the &quot;Do not ask me next time&quot; meant that the next upgrade, the<br>
+&gt; upgrade to Mageia 3, would happen automatically, without asking me. That&#39;s<br>
+&gt; why I didn&#39;t check it. Now you tell me it means &quot;Do not upgrade to Mageia 2<br>
+&gt; and stop asking me to do so.&quot; Waw! This message really needs to be clearer.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Nevertheless, my proposition was not related to these two options but about<br>
+&gt; adding a third one saying something like &quot;Do not stop on errors.&quot; So I<br>
+&gt; guess it should be treated separatelly from yours (even thought I would<br>
+&gt; like to see both of them implemented).<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Cheers,<br>
+&gt; Alejandro.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Macxi &lt;<a href="mailto:terraagua@gmail.com">terraagua@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; &gt; Em qui 24 mai 2012, às 09:52:15, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati escreveu:<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; On Thursday 24 May 2012 08:09 my mailbox was graced by a message from<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; Alejandro López who wrote:<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Well, this is my proposition. What do you people think about it?<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; Sounds both logical and reasonable.<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; No doubt reasons will be found not to do it  ;-3)<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; Cheers,<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; &gt; Ron.<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Alejandro and Ron,<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Yesterday I opened a topic in Mageia Forum (en) about it, to discuss this<br>
+&gt; &gt; improvement:<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Distribution Upgrade Mageia 1 to Mageia 2<br>
+&gt; &gt; <a href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&amp;t=2506" target="_blank">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&amp;t=2506</a><br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; And now, I opened a bug report:<br>
+&gt; &gt; Bug 6068 - The texts of the dialog windows of Mageia Upgrade are not<br>
+&gt; &gt; clear enough<br>
+&gt; &gt; <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6068" target="_blank">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6068</a><br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; I still have no suggestions about it.<br>
+&gt; &gt; But as Alejandro, I also am concerned about this option, it seems, for a<br>
+&gt; &gt; beginner, the best option, but I think technically more complicated and<br>
+&gt; &gt; danger<br>
+&gt; &gt; of breaking the system.<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Cheers<br>
+&gt; &gt; Macxi<br>
+<br>
+</div></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">--<br>
+Morgan Leijström<br>
+</font></span></blockquote></div><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/5/25 Doug Laidlaw <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:laidlaws@hotkey.net.au" target="_blank">laidlaws@hotkey.net.au</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On Fri, 25 May 2012 04:17:42 -0400<br>
+Marc Paré &lt;<a href="mailto:marc@marcpare.com">marc@marcpare.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+<br>
+&gt; Hi Dimitrios,<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Le 2012-05-25 00:58, Dimitrios Glentadakis a écrit :<br>
+&gt; &gt; The boot is during a few minutes because it stalls for a while in<br>
+&gt; &gt; the &quot;Started /home&quot;<br>
+&gt; &gt; How can i skip/disable this step ?<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; <a href="http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7646/startedhome.jpg" target="_blank">http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7646/startedhome.jpg</a><br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Thanks<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Wouldn&#39;t you be more concerned as to why it is taking so long to boot?<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Does it do this at each and every boot?<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Marc<br>
+&gt;<br>
+</div></div>Marc is right.  I don&#39;t see how you can run your computer without<br>
+starting /home.  Have a look at the output of dmesg or<br>
+&quot;tail /var/log/rsyslog&quot;.  The last requires root privileges.  Although<br>
+you don&#39;t have a system yet, you can view these from a terminal using<br>
+&lt;Ctrl&gt; + &lt;ALT&gt; + one of the F keys.  I think that one between F1 and F3<br>
+will give you the kernel message without resorting to dmesg.<br>
+<br>
+HTH,<br>
+<br>
+Doug.<br>
+</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div>It hangs on every boot until now at the same point.</div><div>In dmesg and <span class="Apple-style-span" style>tail /var/log/rsyslog (syslog right?) i dont have any strange messages, all messages seems regular to me</span></div>
+<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style><br></span></div>-- <br><div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/5/25 Doug Laidlaw <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:laidlaws@hotkey.net.au" target="_blank">laidlaws@hotkey.net.au</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On Fri, 25 May 2012 04:17:42 -0400<br>
+Marc Paré &lt;<a href="mailto:marc@marcpare.com">marc@marcpare.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+<br>
+&gt; Hi Dimitrios,<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Le 2012-05-25 00:58, Dimitrios Glentadakis a écrit :<br>
+&gt; &gt; The boot is during a few minutes because it stalls for a while in<br>
+&gt; &gt; the &quot;Started /home&quot;<br>
+&gt; &gt; How can i skip/disable this step ?<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; <a href="http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7646/startedhome.jpg" target="_blank">http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7646/startedhome.jpg</a><br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Thanks<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Wouldn&#39;t you be more concerned as to why it is taking so long to boot?<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Does it do this at each and every boot?<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Marc<br>
+&gt;<br>
+</div></div>Marc is right.  I don&#39;t see how you can run your computer without<br>
+starting /home.  Have a look at the output of dmesg or<br>
+&quot;tail /var/log/rsyslog&quot;.  The last requires root privileges.  Although<br>
+you don&#39;t have a system yet, you can view these from a terminal using<br>
+&lt;Ctrl&gt; + &lt;ALT&gt; + one of the F keys.  I think that one between F1 and F3<br>
+will give you the kernel message without resorting to dmesg.<br>
+<br>
+HTH,<br>
+<br>
+Doug.<br>
+</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div>It hangs on every boot until now at the same point.</div><div>In dmesg and <span class="Apple-style-span" style>tail /var/log/rsyslog (syslog right?) i dont have any strange messages, all messages seems regular to me</span></div>
+<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style><br></span></div>-- <br><div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div><br>
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+<p>Le 25 mai 2012 09:30, &quot;peter.winterflood&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:peter.winterflood@ossi.co.uk">peter.winterflood@ossi.co.uk</a>&gt; a écrit :<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Question, does flip switch work, if not did you see the nvidia logo, if not check your xorg.conf and make sure the driver is nvidia and not nv<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Regards peter<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Sent from Samsung tablet<br>
+&gt;<br>
+The flip would nt work, because as you can see in the screenshot some elements as the window titles, the mouse pointer, the taskbar, are not &quot;rotated&quot;<br>
+The driver in the xorg was nvidia, but it did nt have the &quot;real&quot; nvidia driver installed but a package with a name &quot;custom&quot; inside .</p>
+<p>I had to install nvidia from tainted to solve this</p>
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+<p>Le 25 mai 2012 09:30, &quot;peter.winterflood&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:peter.winterflood@ossi.co.uk">peter.winterflood@ossi.co.uk</a>&gt; a écrit :<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Question, does flip switch work, if not did you see the nvidia logo, if not check your xorg.conf and make sure the driver is nvidia and not nv<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Regards peter<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Sent from Samsung tablet<br>
+&gt;<br>
+The flip would nt work, because as you can see in the screenshot some elements as the window titles, the mouse pointer, the taskbar, are not &quot;rotated&quot;<br>
+The driver in the xorg was nvidia, but it did nt have the &quot;real&quot; nvidia driver installed but a package with a name &quot;custom&quot; inside .</p>
+<p>I had to install nvidia from tainted to solve this</p>