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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Am 21. Mai 2011 14:04 schrieb magnus <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:magnus.mud@googlemail.com">magnus.mud@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Am 21. Mai 2011 13:56 schrieb magnus <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:magnus.mud@googlemail.com" target="_blank">magnus.mud@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<div><div></div><div class="h5">
+<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Excuse my late response. In the night I had a problrm with the size of the output (inline) and googlemail.<br>Now I Had to look for in the jungle of my maschines and installations :-(<br><br>And now the important things:<br>
+
+
+<br><div class="gmail_quote">Different output from urpmi and mcc:<br><br>[root@tux_edge magnus]# LC_ALL=C urpmi laptop-mode-tools<br>In order to satisfy the &#39;bluez-pin|bluez-pin|<div>bluedevil|gnome-bluetooth|gnome-bluetooth&#39; dependency, one of the following packages is needed:<br>
+
+
+
+ 1- gnome-bluetooth-2.32.0-2.mga1.x86_64: GNOME Bluetooth Subsystem (to install)<br> 2- bluez-pin-0.30-11.mga1.x86_64: Bluetooth PIN GUI (to install)<br>What is your choice? (1-2) 2<br>Some requested packages cannot be installed:<br>
+
+
+
+mageia-kde4-config-common-1-6.mga1.noarch (trying to promote kde4-config-file, kde4-config-file)<br>netbook-kde4-config-1-6.mga1.noarch (due to unsatisfied mageia-kde4-config-common[*], trying to promote kde4-config-file, kde4-config-file)<br>
+
+
+
+Continue installation anyway? (Y/n) n<br>[root@tux_edge magnus]#<br></div></div><br><br>mcc output as attachment (only with some translations)<br>
+</blockquote></div></div></div><br>
+</blockquote></div>Another trial, fight with the the size :(<div><br></div>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Am 21. Mai 2011 14:04 schrieb magnus <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:magnus.mud@googlemail.com">magnus.mud@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Am 21. Mai 2011 13:56 schrieb magnus <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:magnus.mud@googlemail.com" target="_blank">magnus.mud@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<div><div></div><div class="h5">
+<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Excuse my late response. In the night I had a problrm with the size of the output (inline) and googlemail.<br>Now I Had to look for in the jungle of my maschines and installations :-(<br><br>And now the important things:<br>
+
+
+<br><div class="gmail_quote">Different output from urpmi and mcc:<br><br>[root@tux_edge magnus]# LC_ALL=C urpmi laptop-mode-tools<br>In order to satisfy the &#39;bluez-pin|bluez-pin|<div>bluedevil|gnome-bluetooth|gnome-bluetooth&#39; dependency, one of the following packages is needed:<br>
+
+
+
+ 1- gnome-bluetooth-2.32.0-2.mga1.x86_64: GNOME Bluetooth Subsystem (to install)<br> 2- bluez-pin-0.30-11.mga1.x86_64: Bluetooth PIN GUI (to install)<br>What is your choice? (1-2) 2<br>Some requested packages cannot be installed:<br>
+
+
+
+mageia-kde4-config-common-1-6.mga1.noarch (trying to promote kde4-config-file, kde4-config-file)<br>netbook-kde4-config-1-6.mga1.noarch (due to unsatisfied mageia-kde4-config-common[*], trying to promote kde4-config-file, kde4-config-file)<br>
+
+
+
+Continue installation anyway? (Y/n) n<br>[root@tux_edge magnus]#<br></div></div><br><br>mcc output as attachment (only with some translations)<br>
+</blockquote></div></div></div><br>
+</blockquote></div>Another trial, fight with the the size :(<div><br></div>
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+dear buddies,<br>I have talked about it earlier and the reply was there at <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/mageia-discuss@mageia.org/msg03742.html">http://www.mail-archive.com/mageia-discuss@mageia.org/msg03742.html</a><br>
+cheers.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/5/21 Ahmad Samir <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ahmadsamir3891@gmail.com">ahmadsamir3891@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div class="im">On 21 May 2011 23:59, Dale Huckeby &lt;<a href="mailto:spock@evansville.net">spock@evansville.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; On Sat, 21 May 2011, Ahmad Samir wrote:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; On 21 May 2011 21:46, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati<br>
+&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org">renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt; Will there be some such thing in place when Mageia is finally launched ?<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; No, simply because there&#39;s no need for a tool like that; easyurpmi was<br>
+&gt;&gt; mainly used by Mandriva users to add the PLF repos, in Mageia PLF is<br>
+&gt;&gt; replaced by the Tainted repo, which is added (but disabled) by<br>
+&gt;&gt; default.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Simply no need? Maybe I&#39;m misreading you or missing something but this comes<br>
+&gt; across as really arrogant in presuming what others (not you!) do or don&#39;t<br>
+&gt; need,<br>
+&gt; and how and why people have &quot;mainly&quot; used easyurpmi in the past. How do you<br>
+&gt; know?<br>
+<br>
+</div>I know about the &quot;main&quot; use case of easyurpmi, from 2-3years of daily<br>
+visits to the Mandriva forum, search for easyurpmi and see if the word<br>
+&quot;PLF&quot; won&#39;t be in the same thread in a lot of cases.<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt; Was there a poll that I didn&#39;t get included in? I&#39;ve always found<br>
+&gt; easyurpmi very convenient and not just for plf. I guess I didn&#39;t realize how<br>
+&gt; atypical I was.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+<br>
+</div>Whether you&#39;re typical or atypical, I leave that to you.<br>
+<br>
+Using easyurpmi to just add the official repositories in Mandriva is<br>
+an &quot;atypical&quot; use case, not the regular/main use case, given the fact<br>
+there&#39;s already an integrated, installed by default, tool to do the<br>
+job.<br>
+<br>
+Sure, it&#39;s good to have an easy way to add the repos on a headless<br>
+server, but I think users running headless servers are cli-savvy<br>
+enough to know how to use urpmi.addmedia, (with help of<br>
+<a href="http://mirrors.mageia.org/distrib" target="_blank">http://mirrors.mageia.org/distrib</a><span onmouseout="cancel = false; window.setTimeout(WRCHideContent, 1000);" onmouseover="WRCShowContent({&#39;rating&#39;:{&#39;value&#39;:-1,&#39;weight&#39;:-1},&#39;flags&#39;:{},&#39;ttl&#39;:3600,&#39;expireTime&#39;:&#39;20110521215302&#39;}, this.className);" class="wrc0" style="padding-right: 16px; width: 16px; height: 16px;"></span> , it becomes a matter of<br>
+
+copy/paste).<br>
+<br>
+&gt; Dale Huckeby<br>
+&gt;<br>
+<br>
+--<br>
+<font color="#888888">Ahmad Samir<br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br>
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+dear buddies,<br>I have talked about it earlier and the reply was there at <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/mageia-discuss@mageia.org/msg03742.html">http://www.mail-archive.com/mageia-discuss@mageia.org/msg03742.html</a><br>
+cheers.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/5/21 Ahmad Samir <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ahmadsamir3891@gmail.com">ahmadsamir3891@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div class="im">On 21 May 2011 23:59, Dale Huckeby &lt;<a href="mailto:spock@evansville.net">spock@evansville.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; On Sat, 21 May 2011, Ahmad Samir wrote:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; On 21 May 2011 21:46, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati<br>
+&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org">renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt; Will there be some such thing in place when Mageia is finally launched ?<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; No, simply because there&#39;s no need for a tool like that; easyurpmi was<br>
+&gt;&gt; mainly used by Mandriva users to add the PLF repos, in Mageia PLF is<br>
+&gt;&gt; replaced by the Tainted repo, which is added (but disabled) by<br>
+&gt;&gt; default.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Simply no need? Maybe I&#39;m misreading you or missing something but this comes<br>
+&gt; across as really arrogant in presuming what others (not you!) do or don&#39;t<br>
+&gt; need,<br>
+&gt; and how and why people have &quot;mainly&quot; used easyurpmi in the past. How do you<br>
+&gt; know?<br>
+<br>
+</div>I know about the &quot;main&quot; use case of easyurpmi, from 2-3years of daily<br>
+visits to the Mandriva forum, search for easyurpmi and see if the word<br>
+&quot;PLF&quot; won&#39;t be in the same thread in a lot of cases.<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt; Was there a poll that I didn&#39;t get included in? I&#39;ve always found<br>
+&gt; easyurpmi very convenient and not just for plf. I guess I didn&#39;t realize how<br>
+&gt; atypical I was.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+<br>
+</div>Whether you&#39;re typical or atypical, I leave that to you.<br>
+<br>
+Using easyurpmi to just add the official repositories in Mandriva is<br>
+an &quot;atypical&quot; use case, not the regular/main use case, given the fact<br>
+there&#39;s already an integrated, installed by default, tool to do the<br>
+job.<br>
+<br>
+Sure, it&#39;s good to have an easy way to add the repos on a headless<br>
+server, but I think users running headless servers are cli-savvy<br>
+enough to know how to use urpmi.addmedia, (with help of<br>
+<a href="http://mirrors.mageia.org/distrib" target="_blank">http://mirrors.mageia.org/distrib</a><span onmouseout="cancel = false; window.setTimeout(WRCHideContent, 1000);" onmouseover="WRCShowContent({&#39;rating&#39;:{&#39;value&#39;:-1,&#39;weight&#39;:-1},&#39;flags&#39;:{},&#39;ttl&#39;:3600,&#39;expireTime&#39;:&#39;20110521215302&#39;}, this.className);" class="wrc0" style="padding-right: 16px; width: 16px; height: 16px;"></span> , it becomes a matter of<br>
+
+copy/paste).<br>
+<br>
+&gt; Dale Huckeby<br>
+&gt;<br>
+<br>
+--<br>
+<font color="#888888">Ahmad Samir<br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br>
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+ <p>Basta escolher a imagem ISO que for melhor para você. Se você não tiver certeza, você deve escolher entre as duas primeiras.</p>
+ <br>
+ <table class="dlt2">
+ <thead>
+ <tr>
+ <th>Opção<br>
+</th>
+ <th>Idiomas</th>
+ <th class="size">Tamanho</th>
+ <th>Popularidade</th>
+ <th>Link Direto</th>
+ <th>BitTorrent</th>
+ </tr>
+ </thead>
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+<td class="name">32bit DVD</td>
+<td class="lang">Todos suportados</td>
+<td class="size">4GB</td>
+<td class="pop"><span class="pop_5">5</span></td>
+<td class="link"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/dl.php?product=mageia-1-rc-dvd-i586" rel="nofollow">download</a></td>
+<td class="link"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/dl.php?product=mageia-1-rc-dvd-i586&amp;torrent=1" rel="nofollow">download</a></td>
+</tr><tr>
+<td class="name">64bit DVD</td>
+<td class="lang">Todos suportados</td>
+<td class="size">4GB</td>
+<td class="pop"><span class="pop_3">3</span></td>
+<td class="link"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/dl.php?product=mageia-1-rc-dvd-x86_64" rel="nofollow">download</a></td>
+<td class="link"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/dl.php?product=mageia-1-rc-dvd-x86_64&amp;torrent=1" rel="nofollow">download</a></td>
+</tr><tr>
+<td class="name">Dual arch CD</td>
+<td class="lang">Limitado</td>
+<td class="size">700MB</td>
+<td class="pop"><span class="pop_1">1</span></td>
+<td class="link"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/dl.php?product=mageia-1-rc-cd-dualarch" rel="nofollow">download</a></td>
+<td class="link"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/dl.php?product=mageia-1-rc-cd-dualarch&amp;torrent=1" rel="nofollow">download</a></td>
+</tr><tr>
+<td class="name">boot.iso 32bit CD</td>
+<td class="lang">Todos suportados</td>
+<td class="size">40MB</td>
+<td class="pop"><span class="pop_1">1</span></td>
+<td class="link"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/dl.php?product=mageia-1-rc-netboot-i586" rel="nofollow">download</a></td>
+<td class="link"><a href="" rel="nofollow"></a><br>
+</td>
+</tr><tr>
+<td class="name">boot.iso 64bit CD</td>
+<td class="lang">Todos suportados</td>
+<td class="size">40MB</td>
+<td class="pop"><span class="pop_1">1</span></td>
+<td class="link"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/dl.php?product=mageia-1-rc-netboot-x86_64" rel="nofollow">download</a></td>
+<td class="link"><a href="" rel="nofollow"></a><br>
+</td>
+</tr>
+ </tbody>
+</table>
+<p class="dlinfo"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Todos os suportados</span>: até 167 idiomas são suportados:
+alemão, inglês, espanhol, francês, italiano, português, sueco,
+holandês, polonês, dinamarquês e muito mais! Veja <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=tmp:supported_locales">a lista completa</a>.</p>
+<p class="dlinfo"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Limitado:</span> bielorrusso, catalão, alemão, inglês, espanhol, francês, húngaro, polonês, italiano, português, ucraniano</p>
+<p class="dlinfo"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Conjunto de idiomas europeu</span>:
+alemão, espanhol (diversas variantes), espanhol, francês, italiano,
+polonês, russo, português do Brasil. Mais idiomas serão
+disponibilizados para a versão estável.</p>
+<p class="dlinfo"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Você não tem certeza de qual ISO fazer download?</span> Isso pode
+ser ainda melhor explicado, mas você pode querer <a href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mageia_installation_media">ler este artigo,
+detalhando as diferenças entre as nossas mídias de instalação</a>.</p>
+ </div></div>
+ <div class="yui-g">
+ <div class="yui-u first"><div class="para" style="padding-right: 0pt;">
+ <h2>Alterações desde o Beta 2</h2>
+ <ul>
+ <li>correções de bugs – muitos deles!</li>
+ <li>atualização da versão dos pacotes</li>
+ <li>mais pacotes nas ISOs</li>
+ </ul>
+ </div></div>
+ <div class="yui-u"><div class="para">
+ <h2>Documentos de Lançamento<br>
+</h2>
+ <ul>
+ <li><a href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso1:rc_release_notes" hreflang="en">Notas de Lançamento</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mageia1:errata" hreflang="en">Errata</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://blog.mageia.org/en/" hreflang="en">Blog post</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://www.mageia.org/pt/">O que é Mageia?</a></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>A versão final será lançada em&nbsp; 1º de Junho.</p>
+ <p>Você pode verificar nosso <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso_1_specifications#expected_milestones">roteiro para o Mageia 1 aqui</a>.</p>
+ </div></div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+
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+<div class="gmail_quote"><span lang="en"><span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">Rda, <br><br>I&#39;m</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">sending</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">attached</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">a translation</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">of the</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">download page</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">&quot;Mageia</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">RC</span><span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">&quot;,</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">for</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">the portuguese language.</span><br>
+
+<br> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">English</span><span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">:</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/</a></span><br>
+
+ <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">for</span><br> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">Portuguese</span><span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">:</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/pt/downloads/" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org/pt/downloads/</a><br>
+
+<br></span></span><span lang="en"><span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">Note: page edited</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">in</span> &quot;<span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">KompoZer</span>&quot; <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">software</span><span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">,</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">in</span> M<span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">ageia</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">Beta2</span></span><br>
+
+<span lang="en"><span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas"><br>Cheers! :)<br><br>MacXi<br></span></span>
+</div><br>
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+<!DOCTYPE html>
+<html lang="en"><head>
+
+<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
+ <meta charset="utf-8"><title>Download Mageia 1 RC</title>
+
+ <meta name="description" content="Where you can download Mageia installable and live ISO images.">
+ <meta name="keywords" content="mageia, software, download, operating system, ISO, computer, torrent, ftp">
+ <meta name="author" content="Mageia">
+ <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="Download%20Mageia%201%20RC_arquivos/all.css">
+ <link rel="icon" type="image/png" href="http://www.mageia.org/g/favicon.png">
+<script src="Download%20Mageia%201%20RC_arquivos/ga.js" async="" type="text/javascript"></script><script type="text/javascript">
+ var _gaq = _gaq || [];
+ _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-18603191-1']);
+ _gaq.push(['_setDomainName', '.mageia.org']);
+ _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);
+
+ (function() {
+ var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true;
+ ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? 'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js';
+ var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s);
+ })();
+</script></head><body>
+ <div class="nav"><!--googleoff: all--><div class="nav2"><p class="loc"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/" accesskey="1">Mageia</a> | <a href="http://blog.mageia.org/en">Blog</a> | <a href="http://www.mageia.org/downloads/">Download RC</a> | <a href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/">Wiki</a> | <a href="http://forums.mageia.org/en/">Forums</a> | <a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/calendar/">Calendar</a> | <a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/">About</a> | <a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/donate/">Donations</a></p><form id="lang_form" dir="ltr" method="get" action="/">
+ <!--<label for="flang">Autres langues&nbsp;:</label>-->
+ <input name="furl" value="/en/downloads/" type="hidden">
+ <select id="flang" name="flang" dir="ltr" onchange="this.form.submit()">
+ <option value="de">Deutsch</option><option value="el">Ελληνικά</option><option value="en" selected="selected">English</option><option value="es">Español</option><option value="et">Eesti</option><option value="fi">Suomeksi</option><option value="fr">Français</option><option value="it">Italiano</option><option value="lv">Latviešu</option><option value="nb">Bokmål</option><option value="nl">Nederlands</option><option value="pl">Polski</option><option value="pt">Português</option><option value="ro">Română</option><option value="ru">Русский</option><option value="tr">Türkçe</option><option value="sl">Slovenščina</option><option value="zh-cn">简体中文</option><option value="zh-tw">正體中文</option>
+ </select>
+ <noscript><div><input id="lang_submit" value="Hop!" type="submit"></div></noscript>
+</form>
+</div><!--googleon: all--></div>
+ <div id="doc" class="yui-t7">
+ <div id="hd" role="banner"><h1><a id="logo" href="http://www.mageia.org/"><span>Mageia</span></a> <span class="lsep">|</span> <span class="subh">Download Mageia 1 <em class="tag">RC</em></span></h1></div>
+ <div id="bd" role="main">
+ <div class="yui-g">
+ <div class="para">
+ <p>Basta escolher a imagem ISO que for melhor para você. Se você não tiver certeza, você deve escolher entre as duas primeiras.</p>
+ <br>
+ <table class="dlt2">
+ <thead>
+ <tr>
+ <th>Opção<br>
+</th>
+ <th>Idiomas</th>
+ <th class="size">Tamanho</th>
+ <th>Popularidade</th>
+ <th>Link Direto</th>
+ <th>BitTorrent</th>
+ </tr>
+ </thead>
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+<td class="name">32bit DVD</td>
+<td class="lang">Todos suportados</td>
+<td class="size">4GB</td>
+<td class="pop"><span class="pop_5">5</span></td>
+<td class="link"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/dl.php?product=mageia-1-rc-dvd-i586" rel="nofollow">download</a></td>
+<td class="link"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/dl.php?product=mageia-1-rc-dvd-i586&amp;torrent=1" rel="nofollow">download</a></td>
+</tr><tr>
+<td class="name">64bit DVD</td>
+<td class="lang">Todos suportados</td>
+<td class="size">4GB</td>
+<td class="pop"><span class="pop_3">3</span></td>
+<td class="link"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/dl.php?product=mageia-1-rc-dvd-x86_64" rel="nofollow">download</a></td>
+<td class="link"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/dl.php?product=mageia-1-rc-dvd-x86_64&amp;torrent=1" rel="nofollow">download</a></td>
+</tr><tr>
+<td class="name">Dual arch CD</td>
+<td class="lang">Limitado</td>
+<td class="size">700MB</td>
+<td class="pop"><span class="pop_1">1</span></td>
+<td class="link"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/dl.php?product=mageia-1-rc-cd-dualarch" rel="nofollow">download</a></td>
+<td class="link"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/dl.php?product=mageia-1-rc-cd-dualarch&amp;torrent=1" rel="nofollow">download</a></td>
+</tr><tr>
+<td class="name">boot.iso 32bit CD</td>
+<td class="lang">Todos suportados</td>
+<td class="size">40MB</td>
+<td class="pop"><span class="pop_1">1</span></td>
+<td class="link"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/dl.php?product=mageia-1-rc-netboot-i586" rel="nofollow">download</a></td>
+<td class="link"><a href="" rel="nofollow"></a><br>
+</td>
+</tr><tr>
+<td class="name">boot.iso 64bit CD</td>
+<td class="lang">Todos suportados</td>
+<td class="size">40MB</td>
+<td class="pop"><span class="pop_1">1</span></td>
+<td class="link"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/dl.php?product=mageia-1-rc-netboot-x86_64" rel="nofollow">download</a></td>
+<td class="link"><a href="" rel="nofollow"></a><br>
+</td>
+</tr>
+ </tbody>
+</table>
+<p class="dlinfo"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Todos os suportados</span>: até 167 idiomas são suportados:
+alemão, inglês, espanhol, francês, italiano, português, sueco,
+holandês, polonês, dinamarquês e muito mais! Veja <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=tmp:supported_locales">a lista completa</a>.</p>
+<p class="dlinfo"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Limitado:</span> bielorrusso, catalão, alemão, inglês, espanhol, francês, húngaro, polonês, italiano, português, ucraniano</p>
+<p class="dlinfo"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Conjunto de idiomas europeu</span>:
+alemão, espanhol (diversas variantes), espanhol, francês, italiano,
+polonês, russo, português do Brasil. Mais idiomas serão
+disponibilizados para a versão estável.</p>
+<p class="dlinfo"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Você não tem certeza de qual ISO fazer download?</span> Isso pode
+ser ainda melhor explicado, mas você pode querer <a href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mageia_installation_media">ler este artigo,
+detalhando as diferenças entre as nossas mídias de instalação</a>.</p>
+ </div></div>
+ <div class="yui-g">
+ <div class="yui-u first"><div class="para" style="padding-right: 0pt;">
+ <h2>Alterações desde o Beta 2</h2>
+ <ul>
+ <li>correções de bugs – muitos deles!</li>
+ <li>atualização da versão dos pacotes</li>
+ <li>mais pacotes nas ISOs</li>
+ </ul>
+ </div></div>
+ <div class="yui-u"><div class="para">
+ <h2>Documentos de Lançamento<br>
+</h2>
+ <ul>
+ <li><a href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso1:rc_release_notes" hreflang="en">Notas de Lançamento</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mageia1:errata" hreflang="en">Errata</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://blog.mageia.org/en/" hreflang="en">Blog post</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://www.mageia.org/pt/">O que é Mageia?</a></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>A versão final será lançada em&nbsp; 1º de Junho.</p>
+ <p>Você pode verificar nosso <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso_1_specifications#expected_milestones">roteiro para o Mageia 1 aqui</a>.</p>
+ </div></div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+
+
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+<div class="gmail_quote"><span lang="en"><span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">Rda, <br><br>I&#39;m</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">sending</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">attached</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">a translation</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">of the</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">download page</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">&quot;Mageia</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">RC</span><span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">&quot;,</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">for</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">the portuguese language.</span><br>
+
+<br> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">English</span><span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">:</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/</a></span><br>
+
+ <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">for</span><br> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">Portuguese</span><span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">:</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/pt/downloads/" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org/pt/downloads/</a><br>
+
+<br></span></span><span lang="en"><span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">Note: page edited</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">in</span> &quot;<span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">KompoZer</span>&quot; <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">software</span><span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">,</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">in</span> M<span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">ageia</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas">Beta2</span></span><br>
+
+<span lang="en"><span title="Clique para mostrar tradues alternativas"><br>Cheers! :)<br><br>MacXi<br></span></span>
+</div><br>
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+<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Excuse my late response. In the night (in still today)  I had a problem with the size of the output (inline) and googlemail.<br>
+Now I had to look for in the jungle of my maschines and installations :-(<br><br>And now the important things:<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Different output from urpmi and mcc:<br><br>[root@tux_edge magnus]# LC_ALL=C urpmi laptop-mode-tools<br>
+In order to satisfy the &#39;bluez-pin|bluez-pin|<div>bluedevil|gnome-bluetooth|gnome-bluetooth&#39; dependency, one of the following packages is needed:<br> 1- gnome-bluetooth-2.32.0-2.mga1.x86_64: GNOME Bluetooth Subsystem (to install)<br>
+ 2- bluez-pin-0.30-11.mga1.x86_64: Bluetooth PIN GUI (to install)<br>What is your choice? (1-2) 2<br>Some requested packages cannot be installed:<br>mageia-kde4-config-common-1-6.mga1.noarch (trying to promote kde4-config-file, kde4-config-file)<br>
+netbook-kde4-config-1-6.mga1.noarch (due to unsatisfied mageia-kde4-config-common[*], trying to promote kde4-config-file, kde4-config-file)<br>Continue installation anyway? (Y/n) n<br>[root@tux_edge magnus]#<br></div><div>
+<br></div><div>Output from mcc is too great (90K) to send</div><div><br></div></div></span>
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+<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Excuse my late response. In the night (in still today)  I had a problem with the size of the output (inline) and googlemail.<br>
+Now I had to look for in the jungle of my maschines and installations :-(<br><br>And now the important things:<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Different output from urpmi and mcc:<br><br>[root@tux_edge magnus]# LC_ALL=C urpmi laptop-mode-tools<br>
+In order to satisfy the &#39;bluez-pin|bluez-pin|<div>bluedevil|gnome-bluetooth|gnome-bluetooth&#39; dependency, one of the following packages is needed:<br> 1- gnome-bluetooth-2.32.0-2.mga1.x86_64: GNOME Bluetooth Subsystem (to install)<br>
+ 2- bluez-pin-0.30-11.mga1.x86_64: Bluetooth PIN GUI (to install)<br>What is your choice? (1-2) 2<br>Some requested packages cannot be installed:<br>mageia-kde4-config-common-1-6.mga1.noarch (trying to promote kde4-config-file, kde4-config-file)<br>
+netbook-kde4-config-1-6.mga1.noarch (due to unsatisfied mageia-kde4-config-common[*], trying to promote kde4-config-file, kde4-config-file)<br>Continue installation anyway? (Y/n) n<br>[root@tux_edge magnus]#<br></div><div>
+<br></div><div>Output from mcc is too great (90K) to send</div><div><br></div></div></span>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd">
+<html><head><meta name="qrichtext" content="1" /><style type="text/css">
+p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }
+</style></head><body style=" font-family:'DejaVu Sans [unknown]'; font-size:9pt; font-weight:400; font-style:normal;">
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&quot;Renaud (Ron) Olgiati&quot; &lt;renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org&gt; schrieb am 21.05.2011</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Will there be some such thing in place when Mageia is finally</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; launched ?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against it. After all, we provide a similar service at mandrivauser.de, but:</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Why?</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Using Mandriva with important third party repos (plf) which had to be configured outside the draktools, it was good and important to have such things.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">But where is the reasoning behind it with Mageia?</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Oliver</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&quot;Renaud (Ron) Olgiati&quot; &lt;renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org&gt; schrieb am 21.05.2011</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Will there be some such thing in place when Mageia is finally</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; launched ?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against it. After all, we provide a similar service at mandrivauser.de, but:</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Why?</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Using Mandriva with important third party repos (plf) which had to be configured outside the draktools, it was good and important to have such things.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">But where is the reasoning behind it with Mageia?</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Oliver</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+Excuse my late response. In the night I had a problrm with the size of the output (inline) and googlemail.<br>Now I Had to look for in the jungle of my maschines and installations :-(<br><br>And now the important things:<br>
+<br><div class="gmail_quote">Different output from urpmi and mcc:<br><br>[root@tux_edge magnus]# LC_ALL=C urpmi laptop-mode-tools<br>In order to satisfy the &#39;bluez-pin|bluez-pin|<div id=":e7">bluedevil|gnome-bluetooth|gnome-bluetooth&#39; dependency, one of the following packages is needed:<br>
+
+ 1- gnome-bluetooth-2.32.0-2.mga1.x86_64: GNOME Bluetooth Subsystem (to install)<br> 2- bluez-pin-0.30-11.mga1.x86_64: Bluetooth PIN GUI (to install)<br>What is your choice? (1-2) 2<br>Some requested packages cannot be installed:<br>
+
+mageia-kde4-config-common-1-6.mga1.noarch (trying to promote kde4-config-file, kde4-config-file)<br>netbook-kde4-config-1-6.mga1.noarch (due to unsatisfied mageia-kde4-config-common[*], trying to promote kde4-config-file, kde4-config-file)<br>
+
+Continue installation anyway? (Y/n) n<br>[root@tux_edge magnus]#<br></div></div><br><br>mcc output as attachment (only with some translations)<br>
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+Excuse my late response. In the night I had a problrm with the size of the output (inline) and googlemail.<br>Now I Had to look for in the jungle of my maschines and installations :-(<br><br>And now the important things:<br>
+<br><div class="gmail_quote">Different output from urpmi and mcc:<br><br>[root@tux_edge magnus]# LC_ALL=C urpmi laptop-mode-tools<br>In order to satisfy the &#39;bluez-pin|bluez-pin|<div id=":e7">bluedevil|gnome-bluetooth|gnome-bluetooth&#39; dependency, one of the following packages is needed:<br>
+
+ 1- gnome-bluetooth-2.32.0-2.mga1.x86_64: GNOME Bluetooth Subsystem (to install)<br> 2- bluez-pin-0.30-11.mga1.x86_64: Bluetooth PIN GUI (to install)<br>What is your choice? (1-2) 2<br>Some requested packages cannot be installed:<br>
+
+mageia-kde4-config-common-1-6.mga1.noarch (trying to promote kde4-config-file, kde4-config-file)<br>netbook-kde4-config-1-6.mga1.noarch (due to unsatisfied mageia-kde4-config-common[*], trying to promote kde4-config-file, kde4-config-file)<br>
+
+Continue installation anyway? (Y/n) n<br>[root@tux_edge magnus]#<br></div></div><br><br>mcc output as attachment (only with some translations)<br>
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+My upgrade from a fresh installed 2010.1 runs ok.<br><br>mdv package are in the attachment<br>
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+My upgrade from a fresh installed 2010.1 runs ok.<br><br>mdv package are in the attachment<br>
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+<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;" lang="EN-US">There is also a
+script called &quot;tuningdrake&quot; developed from <a href="http://blogdrake.net/">http://blogdrake.net/</a> that
+the user could install a lot of non-free stuffs like sun java, adobe acrobat,
+etc. </span><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">It works on mageia with that code</span><pre class="code"><span style="font-size: 14pt;" lang="EN-US">urpmi <a href="ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mandriva/2010.0/free/noarch/Tuningdrake-1.0.3-1bdk2010.0.noarch.rpm">ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mandriva/2010.0/free/noarch/Tuningdrake-1.0.3-1bdk2010.0.noarch.rpm</a><br>
+<br><br><br>You can read about it from mandriva Brazil wiki at <a href="http://docs.mandriva-br.org/mandriva/utilidades/tuningdrake#instalando_o_tuningdrake">http://docs.mandriva-br.org/mandriva/utilidades/tuningdrake#instalando_o_tuningdrake</a><br>
+<br><br><br>cheers.</span></pre><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/5/21 Michael scherer <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:misc@zarb.org">misc@zarb.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
+<div><div></div><div class="h5">On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 04:59:43PM -0500, Dale Huckeby wrote:<br>
+&gt; On Sat, 21 May 2011, Ahmad Samir wrote:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt;On 21 May 2011 21:46, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati<br>
+&gt; &gt;&lt;<a href="mailto:renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org">renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; &gt;&gt;Will there be some such thing in place when Mageia is finally launched ?<br>
+&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt;No, simply because there&#39;s no need for a tool like that; easyurpmi was<br>
+&gt; &gt;mainly used by Mandriva users to add the PLF repos, in Mageia PLF is<br>
+&gt; &gt;replaced by the Tainted repo, which is added (but disabled) by<br>
+&gt; &gt;default.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Simply no need? Maybe I&#39;m misreading you or missing something but this comes<br>
+&gt; across as really arrogant in presuming what others (not you!) do or don&#39;t need,<br>
+&gt; and how and why people have &quot;mainly&quot; used easyurpmi in the past. How do you<br>
+&gt; know? Was there a poll that I didn&#39;t get included in? I&#39;ve always found<br>
+&gt; easyurpmi very convenient and not just for plf. I guess I didn&#39;t realize how<br>
+&gt; atypical I was.<br>
+<br>
+</div></div>Easyurpmi, as I said in the past, suffer from various problems :<br>
+<br>
+- it is centralized. It is where people fighted to get included or not. Every<br>
+group in the past forked ( some without any attribution ) the software to be<br>
+listed as repository for their version, because the original maintainer refused<br>
+to list every possible variations of every random rpm repositories. Despites having wrote<br>
+docs on .urpmi-media file on the wiki, people prefered to reuse easyurpmi out of<br>
+some form of cargo culting ( until easyurpmi decided to adopt the system ).<br>
+<br>
+This caused some frictions in the community, and some divisions due to X instances of the software.<br>
+<br>
+- the code could have been much better. Olivier wrote it and he was not a php coder, and<br>
+neither is Phillipe, the current maintainer. I think that the translation system is<br>
+primitive and prone to problem. No one seemed to be motivated to rewrite, despites<br>
+people fixing various problem.<br>
+<br>
+- the core of the system was still &quot;here is a website that a new user cannot find by<br>
+itself, that will give command that he doesn&#39;t understand, and that he need to type as root,<br>
+after asking question that didn&#39;t made much sense for him&quot;. That&#39;s bad on many levels :<br>
+- difficult to find for a new user.<br>
+- asking to type command as root first, and later &quot;click on a link in your browser and type after your<br>
+admin password&quot;, which is IMHO quite bad from giving wrong habits to people.<br>
+- asking lots of questions, ( fixed later by using a simplified mode, that use rpmdrake or<br>
+that fail silently )<br>
+<br>
+There is also some issue like &quot;it requires a web browser&quot; ( which is highly problematic when you<br>
+are in a datacenter, setting up a server ). And &quot;it doesn&#39;t use ssl&quot; ( which is rather bad for a site that give you<br>
+basically software sources ). This one could be fixed, but that&#39;s quite curious that no one<br>
+thought of it before. Maybe people do not care about security, and about the content of a file that end<br>
+to be read by a software running as root.<br>
+<br>
+The discoverability issues still exist and could not be fixed because of the nature of PLF/Mandriva.<br>
+The bad habits given to users is a direct consequence of the way it work. The power struggle<br>
+part too is inherent to the system, and this would become worst if there is a official instance<br>
+on Mageia servers.<br>
+<br>
+Since the discoverability issue should be fixed by simply having tainted disabled by default and maybe<br>
+some popup whatever to enable it, I see no reason to suffer from the others problems (<br>
+bad habits, power struggle ). People can install a clone of easyurpmi if they want, but I will<br>
+oppose on having it on our servers, on having anything like this labelled as official, and<br>
+would recommend to people to not deploy it.<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+--<br>
+<font color="#888888">Michael Scherer<br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br>
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+<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;" lang="EN-US">There is also a
+script called &quot;tuningdrake&quot; developed from <a href="http://blogdrake.net/">http://blogdrake.net/</a> that
+the user could install a lot of non-free stuffs like sun java, adobe acrobat,
+etc. </span><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">It works on mageia with that code</span><pre class="code"><span style="font-size: 14pt;" lang="EN-US">urpmi <a href="ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mandriva/2010.0/free/noarch/Tuningdrake-1.0.3-1bdk2010.0.noarch.rpm">ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mandriva/2010.0/free/noarch/Tuningdrake-1.0.3-1bdk2010.0.noarch.rpm</a><br>
+<br><br><br>You can read about it from mandriva Brazil wiki at <a href="http://docs.mandriva-br.org/mandriva/utilidades/tuningdrake#instalando_o_tuningdrake">http://docs.mandriva-br.org/mandriva/utilidades/tuningdrake#instalando_o_tuningdrake</a><br>
+<br><br><br>cheers.</span></pre><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/5/21 Michael scherer <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:misc@zarb.org">misc@zarb.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
+<div><div></div><div class="h5">On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 04:59:43PM -0500, Dale Huckeby wrote:<br>
+&gt; On Sat, 21 May 2011, Ahmad Samir wrote:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt;On 21 May 2011 21:46, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati<br>
+&gt; &gt;&lt;<a href="mailto:renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org">renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; &gt;&gt;Will there be some such thing in place when Mageia is finally launched ?<br>
+&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt;No, simply because there&#39;s no need for a tool like that; easyurpmi was<br>
+&gt; &gt;mainly used by Mandriva users to add the PLF repos, in Mageia PLF is<br>
+&gt; &gt;replaced by the Tainted repo, which is added (but disabled) by<br>
+&gt; &gt;default.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Simply no need? Maybe I&#39;m misreading you or missing something but this comes<br>
+&gt; across as really arrogant in presuming what others (not you!) do or don&#39;t need,<br>
+&gt; and how and why people have &quot;mainly&quot; used easyurpmi in the past. How do you<br>
+&gt; know? Was there a poll that I didn&#39;t get included in? I&#39;ve always found<br>
+&gt; easyurpmi very convenient and not just for plf. I guess I didn&#39;t realize how<br>
+&gt; atypical I was.<br>
+<br>
+</div></div>Easyurpmi, as I said in the past, suffer from various problems :<br>
+<br>
+- it is centralized. It is where people fighted to get included or not. Every<br>
+group in the past forked ( some without any attribution ) the software to be<br>
+listed as repository for their version, because the original maintainer refused<br>
+to list every possible variations of every random rpm repositories. Despites having wrote<br>
+docs on .urpmi-media file on the wiki, people prefered to reuse easyurpmi out of<br>
+some form of cargo culting ( until easyurpmi decided to adopt the system ).<br>
+<br>
+This caused some frictions in the community, and some divisions due to X instances of the software.<br>
+<br>
+- the code could have been much better. Olivier wrote it and he was not a php coder, and<br>
+neither is Phillipe, the current maintainer. I think that the translation system is<br>
+primitive and prone to problem. No one seemed to be motivated to rewrite, despites<br>
+people fixing various problem.<br>
+<br>
+- the core of the system was still &quot;here is a website that a new user cannot find by<br>
+itself, that will give command that he doesn&#39;t understand, and that he need to type as root,<br>
+after asking question that didn&#39;t made much sense for him&quot;. That&#39;s bad on many levels :<br>
+- difficult to find for a new user.<br>
+- asking to type command as root first, and later &quot;click on a link in your browser and type after your<br>
+admin password&quot;, which is IMHO quite bad from giving wrong habits to people.<br>
+- asking lots of questions, ( fixed later by using a simplified mode, that use rpmdrake or<br>
+that fail silently )<br>
+<br>
+There is also some issue like &quot;it requires a web browser&quot; ( which is highly problematic when you<br>
+are in a datacenter, setting up a server ). And &quot;it doesn&#39;t use ssl&quot; ( which is rather bad for a site that give you<br>
+basically software sources ). This one could be fixed, but that&#39;s quite curious that no one<br>
+thought of it before. Maybe people do not care about security, and about the content of a file that end<br>
+to be read by a software running as root.<br>
+<br>
+The discoverability issues still exist and could not be fixed because of the nature of PLF/Mandriva.<br>
+The bad habits given to users is a direct consequence of the way it work. The power struggle<br>
+part too is inherent to the system, and this would become worst if there is a official instance<br>
+on Mageia servers.<br>
+<br>
+Since the discoverability issue should be fixed by simply having tainted disabled by default and maybe<br>
+some popup whatever to enable it, I see no reason to suffer from the others problems (<br>
+bad habits, power struggle ). People can install a clone of easyurpmi if they want, but I will<br>
+oppose on having it on our servers, on having anything like this labelled as official, and<br>
+would recommend to people to not deploy it.<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+--<br>
+<font color="#888888">Michael Scherer<br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/5/21 Balcaen John <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mikala@mageia.org">mikala@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+I do not see where bluez-pin wants to remove all KDE stuff here.<br>
+You should update your hdlist (seems like mageia-kde4-config-common is missing<br>
+from your mirror) , also you forgot to add the --debug output.<br>
+You can also simply attach ast a text file the output.<br>
+<br></blockquote><div>mageia-kde4-config is there<br><br>hdlist updated<br><br><br><br> <br></div></div><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/5/21 Balcaen John <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mikala@mageia.org">mikala@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+I do not see where bluez-pin wants to remove all KDE stuff here.<br>
+You should update your hdlist (seems like mageia-kde4-config-common is missing<br>
+from your mirror) , also you forgot to add the --debug output.<br>
+You can also simply attach ast a text file the output.<br>
+<br></blockquote><div>mageia-kde4-config is there<br><br>hdlist updated<br><br><br><br> <br></div></div><br>