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I'm not saying it does not represent magic. I'm just giving my opinion on what was the first thing in my mind after seeing that proposal. Do not expect users to run extensive research in order to just find out what the logo stands for. The image has to be clear at the first sight.<br> + +Besides, what have you expected while writing this post if you can't handle some critic?<br> +<br> +</blockquote></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101002/509b1dca/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101002/509b1dca/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9f648c67b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101002/509b1dca/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,15 @@ +<span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span style="" title="">people should be careful not to make judgments +lightly, is all that needs to be clarified, and if the critics are +welcome as long as they are objective and rationale.<br><br></span><span title="">Greetings!</span></span><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/10/1 Adrian Marcinkowski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:amfidiusz@gmail.com">amfidiusz@gmail.com</a>></span><br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">W dniu 2010-10-01 18:00, Egner Quero pisze:<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im"> +this is a symbol as old as the symbol of a star:<br></div><div class="im"> +please try to find it before making comments without having sufficient<br> +knowledge about it<br> +</div></blockquote> +<br> +Hey, I'm not saying it's not an ancient symbol. I'm not saying it does not represent magic. I'm just giving my opinion on what was the first thing in my mind after seeing that proposal. Do not expect users to run extensive research in order to just find out what the logo stands for. The image has to be clear at the first sight.<br> + +Besides, what have you expected while writing this post if you can't handle some critic?<br> +<br> +</blockquote></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101002/a3e114ce/attachment-0001.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101002/a3e114ce/attachment-0001.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b88037d6d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101002/a3e114ce/attachment-0001.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEARECAAYFAkynThgACgkQP0wYCuTizavwXwCfTaFDimpxJK7GdT+DDUWDoBgA +I1QAoKEGZ2ZX9TQY0Yl/mZTT7K7b8GMc +=xgXx +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101002/a3e114ce/attachment.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101002/a3e114ce/attachment.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b88037d6d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101002/a3e114ce/attachment.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEARECAAYFAkynThgACgkQP0wYCuTizavwXwCfTaFDimpxJK7GdT+DDUWDoBgA +I1QAoKEGZ2ZX9TQY0Yl/mZTT7K7b8GMc +=xgXx +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101002/b82b2313/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101002/b82b2313/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ca8bffa66 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101002/b82b2313/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,17 @@ +<br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/10/1 Frank Griffin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ftg@roadrunner.com">ftg@roadrunner.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +<div class="im">Gustavo Giampaoli wrote:<br> +><br> +> Same way if you put the sweetest marmalade in an ugly and dirty<br> +> package. And you also put some dog sh*t in the most beautiful<br> +> packaging, with a nice ribbon.<br> +><br> +> Ask them "please, pick one". Which one do you think people will pick first?<br> +><br> +<br> +</div>You're overlooking that fact that if you are a commercial enterprise you<br> +can pay people to tie ribbons around dogsh*t, but you'll find very few<br> +community contributors who are willing to do that for their own<br> +amusement and edification. :-)<br> +</blockquote></div><br>I do agree with Gustavo.<br>And what he tries to say is not « functionality is irrelevant, let's focus on design, guys ». He says (or that's what I understood) that we should consider aesthetics. And I think that in the whole community there might be people who feel concerned about/are competent in graphic design, and willing to improve GUIs.<br> +I just think that we could let them improve things instead of saying « don't put your artistic hands in my code, it works so there's no problem if the GUI is ugly ».<br><br>Functionality is the most important aspect, but design is relevant.<br> +<br>For example : I never used the 3D desktop in Mandriva, but I convinced a lot of my friends to try the distro showing them my funny cubic desktop. Just because it looks great, not because it is useful.<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101002/b82b2313/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101002/b82b2313/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ca8bffa66 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101002/b82b2313/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,17 @@ +<br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/10/1 Frank Griffin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ftg@roadrunner.com">ftg@roadrunner.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +<div class="im">Gustavo Giampaoli wrote:<br> +><br> +> Same way if you put the sweetest marmalade in an ugly and dirty<br> +> package. And you also put some dog sh*t in the most beautiful<br> +> packaging, with a nice ribbon.<br> +><br> +> Ask them "please, pick one". Which one do you think people will pick first?<br> +><br> +<br> +</div>You're overlooking that fact that if you are a commercial enterprise you<br> +can pay people to tie ribbons around dogsh*t, but you'll find very few<br> +community contributors who are willing to do that for their own<br> +amusement and edification. :-)<br> +</blockquote></div><br>I do agree with Gustavo.<br>And what he tries to say is not « functionality is irrelevant, let's focus on design, guys ». He says (or that's what I understood) that we should consider aesthetics. And I think that in the whole community there might be people who feel concerned about/are competent in graphic design, and willing to improve GUIs.<br> +I just think that we could let them improve things instead of saying « don't put your artistic hands in my code, it works so there's no problem if the GUI is ugly ».<br><br>Functionality is the most important aspect, but design is relevant.<br> +<br>For example : I never used the 3D desktop in Mandriva, but I convinced a lot of my friends to try the distro showing them my funny cubic desktop. Just because it looks great, not because it is useful.<br> |