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+Doesn&#39;t packagekit provide Gnome and KDE-native interfaces for package management?<div><br></div><div>Shawn<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Richard <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:richard.j.walker@ntlworld.com">richard.j.walker@ntlworld.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im">On Tuesday 28 September 2010 23:42:21 Renaud MICHEL wrote:<br>
+&gt; No, if you are talking about rpmdrake, you should compare it to synaptic.<br>
+&gt; I you want to talk about apt (be it apt-get or aptitude), you should<br>
+&gt; compare it to urpmi, and urpmi (in my opinion) is not slow.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+</div>Agreed. Though I am not by any means a command line junkie I will always use<br>
+uprmi when I know exactly what I want.<br>
+<br>
+So it is synaptic/apt and rpmdrake/urpmi. No doubt yum has a GUI counterpart<br>
+too.<br>
+<div class="im">&gt;<br>
+&gt; emerge and macports are source-based &quot;packet&quot; managers.<br>
+&gt; As the programs are compiled when you want to install them, you can decide<br>
+&gt; to exclude some optional, compile-time functionality, and avoid their<br>
+&gt; dependencies.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; In pre-compiled packets (like rpm or deb), the packager decided what should<br>
+&gt; be compiled, and so what are the required dependencies.<br>
+&gt; You still have the option to get the source package and tweak it (via the<br>
+&gt; spec file for rpm, or rule for deb) to exclude some things you don&#39;t<br>
+&gt; require. (but you will need to do it again each time an update is<br>
+&gt; available)<br>
+&gt;<br>
+</div>Right, I have done this with a custom ffmpeg build. Compile time dependency<br>
+control is, of course, a grace and favour benefit provided by the program<br>
+author. I get the impression that a packager can introduce depencies when<br>
+special support is needed for extra features he may choose to include. This<br>
+seems to be what happened with the 2010.1 issue of the foobillard rpm where a<br>
+new dependency on Pulse has been created which does not exist in the 2010.0<br>
+package or the author&#39;s source.<br>
+<div class="im">&gt;<br>
+&gt; Packages have dependencies, those are interpreted as &quot;this package cannot<br>
+&gt; work without those&quot;.<br>
+&gt; You can also have less strict recommendations, deb has provided for long<br>
+&gt; recommended packages (not really required, but a must have) and suggested<br>
+&gt; packages (is an interesting addition, but nothing essential).<br>
+&gt; Rpm also provide such a mechanism (though I think is younger than deb) with<br>
+&gt; the suggested packages.<br>
+&gt; Urpmi take the suggested packages into account, when installing it will by<br>
+&gt; default selected also the suggested packages, but you can add the --no-<br>
+&gt; suggests option to avoid this.<br>
+</div>Does this mean that I can find the KDE packages which &quot;depend&quot; on Pulse and<br>
+re-package them such that Pulse is only &quot;recommended&quot;? If so then I will have<br>
+to find the way to set the --no-suggests option in rpmdrake. I hadn&#39;t even<br>
+looked for it before as I have only recently started to discover problems in<br>
+Mandriva packages.<br>
+<div class="im">&gt; On the urpme side, if you uninstall a package that was installed as a<br>
+&gt; suggestion, it won&#39;t trigger the uninstallation of the package that<br>
+&gt; suggested it.<br>
+</div>Something similar seems to apply to packages which I inadvertently &quot;mark&quot; as<br>
+manually installed. urpme reports that such packages will be excluded from<br>
+orphan detection. I love the --auto-orphans switch.<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+Richard<br>
+<br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+Doesn&#39;t packagekit provide Gnome and KDE-native interfaces for package management?<div><br></div><div>Shawn<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Richard <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:richard.j.walker@ntlworld.com">richard.j.walker@ntlworld.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im">On Tuesday 28 September 2010 23:42:21 Renaud MICHEL wrote:<br>
+&gt; No, if you are talking about rpmdrake, you should compare it to synaptic.<br>
+&gt; I you want to talk about apt (be it apt-get or aptitude), you should<br>
+&gt; compare it to urpmi, and urpmi (in my opinion) is not slow.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+</div>Agreed. Though I am not by any means a command line junkie I will always use<br>
+uprmi when I know exactly what I want.<br>
+<br>
+So it is synaptic/apt and rpmdrake/urpmi. No doubt yum has a GUI counterpart<br>
+too.<br>
+<div class="im">&gt;<br>
+&gt; emerge and macports are source-based &quot;packet&quot; managers.<br>
+&gt; As the programs are compiled when you want to install them, you can decide<br>
+&gt; to exclude some optional, compile-time functionality, and avoid their<br>
+&gt; dependencies.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; In pre-compiled packets (like rpm or deb), the packager decided what should<br>
+&gt; be compiled, and so what are the required dependencies.<br>
+&gt; You still have the option to get the source package and tweak it (via the<br>
+&gt; spec file for rpm, or rule for deb) to exclude some things you don&#39;t<br>
+&gt; require. (but you will need to do it again each time an update is<br>
+&gt; available)<br>
+&gt;<br>
+</div>Right, I have done this with a custom ffmpeg build. Compile time dependency<br>
+control is, of course, a grace and favour benefit provided by the program<br>
+author. I get the impression that a packager can introduce depencies when<br>
+special support is needed for extra features he may choose to include. This<br>
+seems to be what happened with the 2010.1 issue of the foobillard rpm where a<br>
+new dependency on Pulse has been created which does not exist in the 2010.0<br>
+package or the author&#39;s source.<br>
+<div class="im">&gt;<br>
+&gt; Packages have dependencies, those are interpreted as &quot;this package cannot<br>
+&gt; work without those&quot;.<br>
+&gt; You can also have less strict recommendations, deb has provided for long<br>
+&gt; recommended packages (not really required, but a must have) and suggested<br>
+&gt; packages (is an interesting addition, but nothing essential).<br>
+&gt; Rpm also provide such a mechanism (though I think is younger than deb) with<br>
+&gt; the suggested packages.<br>
+&gt; Urpmi take the suggested packages into account, when installing it will by<br>
+&gt; default selected also the suggested packages, but you can add the --no-<br>
+&gt; suggests option to avoid this.<br>
+</div>Does this mean that I can find the KDE packages which &quot;depend&quot; on Pulse and<br>
+re-package them such that Pulse is only &quot;recommended&quot;? If so then I will have<br>
+to find the way to set the --no-suggests option in rpmdrake. I hadn&#39;t even<br>
+looked for it before as I have only recently started to discover problems in<br>
+Mandriva packages.<br>
+<div class="im">&gt; On the urpme side, if you uninstall a package that was installed as a<br>
+&gt; suggestion, it won&#39;t trigger the uninstallation of the package that<br>
+&gt; suggested it.<br>
+</div>Something similar seems to apply to packages which I inadvertently &quot;mark&quot; as<br>
+manually installed. urpme reports that such packages will be excluded from<br>
+orphan detection. I love the --auto-orphans switch.<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+Richard<br>
+<br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/28 Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com">giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+2010/9/28 Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli &lt;<a href="mailto:giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com">giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br>
+<div><div></div><div class="h5">&gt; We have something like that at Blogdrake.net<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; See <a href="http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php" target="_blank">http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php</a><br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; It&#39;s based on SimplePo, with some customization (I didn&#39;t do it, so I<br>
+&gt; can&#39;t tell you which things has being changed).<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; We pick PO files, and put them at <a href="http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php" target="_blank">http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php</a><br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; There, MDKTrans members log in and translate lines. Other members come<br>
+&gt; after, and check.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; When it&#39;s ready 100%, Diego Bello (MDKTrans coordinator) uploads PO<br>
+&gt; file again to Mandriva server.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Cheers!<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; tavillo1980<br>
+<br>
+</div></div>I forgot, I hope Mageia has something like this:<br>
+<a href="http://mdk.jack.kiev.ua/stats/gui/trunk/team/es/" target="_blank">http://mdk.jack.kiev.ua/stats/gui/trunk/team/es/</a><br>
+<br>
+IMHO, it rise translators spirit when they see how lines become green.<br>
+<br>
+Cheers!<br>
+<br>
+tavillo1980<br>
+</blockquote></div><br><div>Statistics is certainly a must-on!</div><div><br></div><div>Marek Laane</div><div>Estonian translator</div>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/28 Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com">giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+2010/9/28 Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli &lt;<a href="mailto:giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com">giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br>
+<div><div></div><div class="h5">&gt; We have something like that at Blogdrake.net<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; See <a href="http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php" target="_blank">http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php</a><br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; It&#39;s based on SimplePo, with some customization (I didn&#39;t do it, so I<br>
+&gt; can&#39;t tell you which things has being changed).<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; We pick PO files, and put them at <a href="http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php" target="_blank">http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php</a><br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; There, MDKTrans members log in and translate lines. Other members come<br>
+&gt; after, and check.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; When it&#39;s ready 100%, Diego Bello (MDKTrans coordinator) uploads PO<br>
+&gt; file again to Mandriva server.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Cheers!<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; tavillo1980<br>
+<br>
+</div></div>I forgot, I hope Mageia has something like this:<br>
+<a href="http://mdk.jack.kiev.ua/stats/gui/trunk/team/es/" target="_blank">http://mdk.jack.kiev.ua/stats/gui/trunk/team/es/</a><br>
+<br>
+IMHO, it rise translators spirit when they see how lines become green.<br>
+<br>
+Cheers!<br>
+<br>
+tavillo1980<br>
+</blockquote></div><br><div>Statistics is certainly a must-on!</div><div><br></div><div>Marek Laane</div><div>Estonian translator</div>
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+<html>
+<head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
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+<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+If it is more efficient, then I say do it. <br>
+<br>
+If it is just a feel good thing, then forget it.<br>
+<br>
+I do agree that we need to think of ways to make it easier for people
+to contribute.<br>
+<br>
+Wayne Sallee<br>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Wayne@WayneSallee.com">Wayne@WayneSallee.com</a><br>
+<br>
+David V. Wallin wrote on 09/28/2010 08:13 AM:
+<blockquote cite="mid:7906DDD9-3661-44CE-8951-B0D9D36324D1@ngweb.se"
+ type="cite">Hi everyone,
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>Going to throw out an idea born by the members on <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://Mageia-se.org">Mageia-se.org</a>
+about the handling of translations.</div>
+ <div>This might be an obvious idea, and if so we'll be happy :-)</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>I'm going to quote the text i wrote in #mageia since i currently
+feel too lazy to re-write it. Hope you understand what i'm trying to
+say with the text.</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div><span class="Apple-style-span"
+ style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande';">"Had a discussion on <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://Mageia-se.org">Mageia-se.org</a>
+where we talked about making translations of the disto from the
+community itself. The suggestion, that i wanted to run by someone
+before putting on the mailist, is that each country community starts a
+section (a wiki for example) where all the members of that community
+are able to translate as much as they are able and then, when reaching
+a certain percent translated, the translation is returned to the main
+developer team for implementation."</span></div>
+ <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Lucida Grande'"><br>
+ </font></div>
+ <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Lucida Grande'">"the main
+motivation from the members on <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://mageia-se.org">mageia-se.org</a> was that everyone could
+feel apart of the work and feel useful since even only translating one
+word would be a contribution."<br>
+ </font>
+ <div><span class="Apple-style-span"
+ style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span
+ class="Apple-style-span"
+ style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span
+ class="Apple-style-span"
+ style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span
+ class="Apple-style-span"
+ style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;">
+ <div style="word-wrap: break-word;">
+ <div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ <div>----</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>Betygs&auml;tt g&auml;rna mitt mail!</div>
+ <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/">http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/</a></div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>----</div>
+ <div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
+Best Regards / V&auml;nligen ,</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>Stockholm Next Generation Web</div>
+ <div>David V. Wallin</div>
+ <div>+46 (0)8 4100 39 82</div>
+ <div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ngweb.se">http://www.ngweb.se</a></div>
+ <div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:david@ngweb.se">david@ngweb.se</a></div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
+ </span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
+ </span></span></div>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+</blockquote>
+</body>
+</html>
+
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+<html>
+<head>
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+</head>
+<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+If it is more efficient, then I say do it. <br>
+<br>
+If it is just a feel good thing, then forget it.<br>
+<br>
+I do agree that we need to think of ways to make it easier for people
+to contribute.<br>
+<br>
+Wayne Sallee<br>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Wayne@WayneSallee.com">Wayne@WayneSallee.com</a><br>
+<br>
+David V. Wallin wrote on 09/28/2010 08:13 AM:
+<blockquote cite="mid:7906DDD9-3661-44CE-8951-B0D9D36324D1@ngweb.se"
+ type="cite">Hi everyone,
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>Going to throw out an idea born by the members on <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://Mageia-se.org">Mageia-se.org</a>
+about the handling of translations.</div>
+ <div>This might be an obvious idea, and if so we'll be happy :-)</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>I'm going to quote the text i wrote in #mageia since i currently
+feel too lazy to re-write it. Hope you understand what i'm trying to
+say with the text.</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div><span class="Apple-style-span"
+ style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande';">"Had a discussion on <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://Mageia-se.org">Mageia-se.org</a>
+where we talked about making translations of the disto from the
+community itself. The suggestion, that i wanted to run by someone
+before putting on the mailist, is that each country community starts a
+section (a wiki for example) where all the members of that community
+are able to translate as much as they are able and then, when reaching
+a certain percent translated, the translation is returned to the main
+developer team for implementation."</span></div>
+ <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Lucida Grande'"><br>
+ </font></div>
+ <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Lucida Grande'">"the main
+motivation from the members on <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://mageia-se.org">mageia-se.org</a> was that everyone could
+feel apart of the work and feel useful since even only translating one
+word would be a contribution."<br>
+ </font>
+ <div><span class="Apple-style-span"
+ style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span
+ class="Apple-style-span"
+ style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span
+ class="Apple-style-span"
+ style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span
+ class="Apple-style-span"
+ style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;">
+ <div style="word-wrap: break-word;">
+ <div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ <div>----</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>Betygs&auml;tt g&auml;rna mitt mail!</div>
+ <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/">http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/</a></div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>----</div>
+ <div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
+Best Regards / V&auml;nligen ,</div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <div>Stockholm Next Generation Web</div>
+ <div>David V. Wallin</div>
+ <div>+46 (0)8 4100 39 82</div>
+ <div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ngweb.se">http://www.ngweb.se</a></div>
+ <div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:david@ngweb.se">david@ngweb.se</a></div>
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
+ </span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
+ </span></span></div>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+</blockquote>
+</body>
+</html>
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+Hi Wayne <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/28 Wayne Sallee <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:Wayne@waynesallee.com">Wayne@waynesallee.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+I think it&#39;s too large of a logo (when you include all the lines), and it&#39;s too hard to understand the name.<br>
+The line pattern might make a good desktop design.<br></blockquote><div><br>I just another proposal no more no less, the idea was thinking on a bootsplash concept, and the logo precisely <br>runs on transgession of the interpretation of the name :) its absolutely intentional :) <br>
+<br>anyway theres a lot of option, and as i said, just for the pleasrure for share things...<br><br><br>regards<br>P.<br><br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+<br>
+Wayne Sallee<br>
+Wayne@WayneSallee.com<br>
+<br>
+Binary Trance wrote on 09/28/2010 12:26 AM:<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi all from Buenos Aires.<br>
+Well, here it is my contribution for logo contest. Its made on CS4 over wine, probably u say that is not &quot;correct&quot;, but this is<br>
+another simple contribution for the logos proposal :)<br>
+<br>
+<a href="http://mageia.posterous.com/my-first-post-and-logo-proposal" target="_blank">http://mageia.posterous.com/my-first-post-and-logo-proposal</a><br>
+<br>
+Namaste<br>
+Pablo Barrera<br>
+<br>
+</blockquote>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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+Hi Wayne <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/28 Wayne Sallee <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:Wayne@waynesallee.com">Wayne@waynesallee.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+I think it&#39;s too large of a logo (when you include all the lines), and it&#39;s too hard to understand the name.<br>
+The line pattern might make a good desktop design.<br></blockquote><div><br>I just another proposal no more no less, the idea was thinking on a bootsplash concept, and the logo precisely <br>runs on transgession of the interpretation of the name :) its absolutely intentional :) <br>
+<br>anyway theres a lot of option, and as i said, just for the pleasrure for share things...<br><br><br>regards<br>P.<br><br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+<br>
+Wayne Sallee<br>
+Wayne@WayneSallee.com<br>
+<br>
+Binary Trance wrote on 09/28/2010 12:26 AM:<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi all from Buenos Aires.<br>
+Well, here it is my contribution for logo contest. Its made on CS4 over wine, probably u say that is not &quot;correct&quot;, but this is<br>
+another simple contribution for the logos proposal :)<br>
+<br>
+<a href="http://mageia.posterous.com/my-first-post-and-logo-proposal" target="_blank">http://mageia.posterous.com/my-first-post-and-logo-proposal</a><br>
+<br>
+Namaste<br>
+Pablo Barrera<br>
+<br>
+</blockquote>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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+<html>
+<head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+</head>
+<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+Yea, I think the design looks good for boot splash, other than the name
+being hard to read.<br>
+<br>
+Wayne Sallee<br>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Wayne@WayneSallee.com">Wayne@WayneSallee.com</a><br>
+<br>
+Binary Trance wrote on 09/28/2010 07:16 AM:
+<blockquote
+ cite="mid:AANLkTikcXCF4fRxfaaWfX6N=-shVSO0d39Mj+4ehfgWJ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">Hi Wayne <br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/28 Wayne Sallee <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
+ moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Wayne@waynesallee.com">Wayne@waynesallee.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
+ style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I
+think it's too large of a logo (when you include all the lines), and
+it's too hard to understand the name.<br>
+The line pattern might make a good desktop design.<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+I just another proposal no more no less, the idea was thinking on a
+bootsplash concept, and the logo precisely <br>
+runs on transgession of the interpretation of the name :) its
+absolutely intentional :) <br>
+ <br>
+anyway theres a lot of option, and as i said, just for the pleasrure
+for share things...<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+regards<br>
+P.<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+&nbsp;</div>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
+ style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>
+Wayne Sallee<br>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Wayne@WayneSallee.com">Wayne@WayneSallee.com</a><br>
+ <br>
+Binary Trance wrote on 09/28/2010 12:26 AM:
+ <div>
+ <div class="h5"><br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
+ style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
+Hi all from Buenos Aires.<br>
+Well, here it is my contribution for logo contest. Its made on CS4 over
+wine, probably u say that is not "correct", but this is<br>
+another simple contribution for the logos proposal :)<br>
+ <br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://mageia.posterous.com/my-first-post-and-logo-proposal"
+ target="_blank">http://mageia.posterous.com/my-first-post-and-logo-proposal</a><br>
+ <br>
+Namaste<br>
+Pablo Barrera<br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+</blockquote>
+</body>
+</html>
+
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+<html>
+<head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+</head>
+<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+Yea, I think the design looks good for boot splash, other than the name
+being hard to read.<br>
+<br>
+Wayne Sallee<br>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Wayne@WayneSallee.com">Wayne@WayneSallee.com</a><br>
+<br>
+Binary Trance wrote on 09/28/2010 07:16 AM:
+<blockquote
+ cite="mid:AANLkTikcXCF4fRxfaaWfX6N=-shVSO0d39Mj+4ehfgWJ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">Hi Wayne <br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/28 Wayne Sallee <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
+ moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Wayne@waynesallee.com">Wayne@waynesallee.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
+ style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I
+think it's too large of a logo (when you include all the lines), and
+it's too hard to understand the name.<br>
+The line pattern might make a good desktop design.<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+I just another proposal no more no less, the idea was thinking on a
+bootsplash concept, and the logo precisely <br>
+runs on transgession of the interpretation of the name :) its
+absolutely intentional :) <br>
+ <br>
+anyway theres a lot of option, and as i said, just for the pleasrure
+for share things...<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+regards<br>
+P.<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+&nbsp;</div>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
+ style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>
+Wayne Sallee<br>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Wayne@WayneSallee.com">Wayne@WayneSallee.com</a><br>
+ <br>
+Binary Trance wrote on 09/28/2010 12:26 AM:
+ <div>
+ <div class="h5"><br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
+ style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
+Hi all from Buenos Aires.<br>
+Well, here it is my contribution for logo contest. Its made on CS4 over
+wine, probably u say that is not "correct", but this is<br>
+another simple contribution for the logos proposal :)<br>
+ <br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://mageia.posterous.com/my-first-post-and-logo-proposal"
+ target="_blank">http://mageia.posterous.com/my-first-post-and-logo-proposal</a><br>
+ <br>
+Namaste<br>
+Pablo Barrera<br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+</blockquote>
+</body>
+</html>
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+ Le 26/09/2010 22:50, Rory Albertyn a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:4C9FB22A.1090900@radiantnet.co.za" type="cite">Greetings,
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ A South African user community has started. The IRC channel is
+ #mageia-za on freenode.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ I would like to thank those of you who assisted and would like to
+ request a mailing list and links on the website.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ ~ Rory (Gripen on Freenode)
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <font face="Liberation Sans">Thank you very much!<br>
+ <br>
+ In fact, I think this would really be great and helpful to also
+ support afrikaans and people from South Africa. <span
+ class="moz-smiley-s1"><span> :-) </span></span><br>
+ <br>
+ Skiper.<br>
+ </font>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
+ Le 26/09/2010 22:50, Rory Albertyn a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:4C9FB22A.1090900@radiantnet.co.za" type="cite">Greetings,
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ A South African user community has started. The IRC channel is
+ #mageia-za on freenode.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ I would like to thank those of you who assisted and would like to
+ request a mailing list and links on the website.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ ~ Rory (Gripen on Freenode)
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <font face="Liberation Sans">Thank you very much!<br>
+ <br>
+ In fact, I think this would really be great and helpful to also
+ support afrikaans and people from South Africa. <span
+ class="moz-smiley-s1"><span> :-) </span></span><br>
+ <br>
+ Skiper.<br>
+ </font>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/28 Eden Caldas <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:eden@linuxfacil.org">eden@linuxfacil.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+Sorry if its been asked already.<br><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#888888"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><br></font></font></blockquote><div> </div></div>if you had used the research you would not need to apologize
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/28 Eden Caldas <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:eden@linuxfacil.org">eden@linuxfacil.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+Sorry if its been asked already.<br><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#888888"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><br></font></font></blockquote><div> </div></div>if you had used the research you would not need to apologize
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/28 Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com">giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+&gt; As told you many time, please use a proper mail client and stop breaking<br>
+&gt; threads every time you send a message<br>
+<br>
+I&#39;ve seeing the comments about breaking threads.<br>
+<br>
+I check all my mail with web GMail and the thread never breaks. All<br>
+comments from André are in the same thread.<br>
+<br>
+Cheers!<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+tavillo1980<br>
+</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all">I use gmail too without any problem, threads are never broken<br><br>-- <br><div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/28 Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com">giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+&gt; As told you many time, please use a proper mail client and stop breaking<br>
+&gt; threads every time you send a message<br>
+<br>
+I&#39;ve seeing the comments about breaking threads.<br>
+<br>
+I check all my mail with web GMail and the thread never breaks. All<br>
+comments from André are in the same thread.<br>
+<br>
+Cheers!<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+tavillo1980<br>
+</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all">I use gmail too without any problem, threads are never broken<br><br>-- <br><div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div><br>
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+I dont&#39; know what is *the* best tool, and i dont i know if it have *a* best than others.<div><br></div><div><br><div><div><div>I just hope that beyond the tool, it should change, the same quality on the dependency tree will be present. And in both senses of the tree.</div>
+<div>it&#39;s hard to find an example that does not require the troll, but for example I find it regrettable that uninstalling a package gtk entails uninstalling the core underneath, especially as this core is used by an application qt (no name) Or I do not like the tool I propose to install the world as it is just necessary to install three libraries (no name).</div>
+<div><br></div><div>Beyond the tool, I hope that the quality of management of dependencies will be preserved</div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div>My two cents.</div>
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+I dont&#39; know what is *the* best tool, and i dont i know if it have *a* best than others.<div><br></div><div><br><div><div><div>I just hope that beyond the tool, it should change, the same quality on the dependency tree will be present. And in both senses of the tree.</div>
+<div>it&#39;s hard to find an example that does not require the troll, but for example I find it regrettable that uninstalling a package gtk entails uninstalling the core underneath, especially as this core is used by an application qt (no name) Or I do not like the tool I propose to install the world as it is just necessary to install three libraries (no name).</div>
+<div><br></div><div>Beyond the tool, I hope that the quality of management of dependencies will be preserved</div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div>My two cents.</div>
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+<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br>
+It&#39;s online: <a href="http://donate.mageia.org/es/" target="_blank">http://donate.mageia.org/es/</a><br>
+<br>
+Could you please check that the page is ok please ?<br>
+<br>
+</blockquote></div><br>Yep. It&#39;s fine!<br><br>There is only a very minor thing: In the header of the page, in the section for the language-version labels, the attribute &#39; class=&quot;sel&quot; &#39; should be put in the &#39;<a href="http://donations.mageia.org/es">http://donations.mageia.org/es</a>&#39; link, not in the English one, in order to see the Spanish link in bold characters when the pages is browsed. I forgot to change it, sorry for that!<br>
+<br>Kind regards!<br>
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+<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br>
+It&#39;s online: <a href="http://donate.mageia.org/es/" target="_blank">http://donate.mageia.org/es/</a><br>
+<br>
+Could you please check that the page is ok please ?<br>
+<br>
+</blockquote></div><br>Yep. It&#39;s fine!<br><br>There is only a very minor thing: In the header of the page, in the section for the language-version labels, the attribute &#39; class=&quot;sel&quot; &#39; should be put in the &#39;<a href="http://donations.mageia.org/es">http://donations.mageia.org/es</a>&#39; link, not in the English one, in order to see the Spanish link in bold characters when the pages is browsed. I forgot to change it, sorry for that!<br>
+<br>Kind regards!<br>
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+Hi all from Buenos Aires. <br>Well, here it is my contribution for logo contest. Its made on CS4 over wine, probably u say that is not &quot;correct&quot;, but this is <br>another simple contribution for the logos proposal :) <br>
+<br><a href="http://mageia.posterous.com/my-first-post-and-logo-proposal">http://mageia.posterous.com/my-first-post-and-logo-proposal</a><br><br>Namaste<br>Pablo Barrera<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/28 Dale Huckeby <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:spock@evansville.net">spock@evansville.net</a>&gt;</span><br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On Mon, 27 Sep 2010, Hoyt Duff wrote:<br>
+<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Dale Huckeby &lt;<a href="mailto:spock@evansville.net" target="_blank">spock@evansville.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54138626@N05/5016045891/in/pool-mageia-art" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54138626@N05/5016045891/in/pool-mageia-art</a><br>
+<br>
+Its simple, elegant and appropriate for all potential users of Mageia.<br>
+:o)<br>
+</blockquote></blockquote>
+<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<br>
+Dale Huckeby<br>
+<br>
+</blockquote>
+<br>
+Crescent moon-like symbol might be mis-interpreted as a religious<br>
+symbol. The conspiracy crazies might generate much publicity for<br>
+Mageia.<br>
+</blockquote>
+<br></div></div>
+Please be careful of your attributions. I didn&#39;t write that. If you&#39;re going<br>
+to edit out a person&#39;s words edit out his name also.<br><font color="#888888">
+<br>
+Dale Huckeby</font></blockquote></div><br>
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+Hi all from Buenos Aires. <br>Well, here it is my contribution for logo contest. Its made on CS4 over wine, probably u say that is not &quot;correct&quot;, but this is <br>another simple contribution for the logos proposal :) <br>
+<br><a href="http://mageia.posterous.com/my-first-post-and-logo-proposal">http://mageia.posterous.com/my-first-post-and-logo-proposal</a><br><br>Namaste<br>Pablo Barrera<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/28 Dale Huckeby <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:spock@evansville.net">spock@evansville.net</a>&gt;</span><br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On Mon, 27 Sep 2010, Hoyt Duff wrote:<br>
+<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Dale Huckeby &lt;<a href="mailto:spock@evansville.net" target="_blank">spock@evansville.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54138626@N05/5016045891/in/pool-mageia-art" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54138626@N05/5016045891/in/pool-mageia-art</a><br>
+<br>
+Its simple, elegant and appropriate for all potential users of Mageia.<br>
+:o)<br>
+</blockquote></blockquote>
+<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<br>
+Dale Huckeby<br>
+<br>
+</blockquote>
+<br>
+Crescent moon-like symbol might be mis-interpreted as a religious<br>
+symbol. The conspiracy crazies might generate much publicity for<br>
+Mageia.<br>
+</blockquote>
+<br></div></div>
+Please be careful of your attributions. I didn&#39;t write that. If you&#39;re going<br>
+to edit out a person&#39;s words edit out his name also.<br><font color="#888888">
+<br>
+Dale Huckeby</font></blockquote></div><br>
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+<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
+<!DOCTYPE html>
+<html dir="ltr" lang="nl">
+<head>
+ <meta charset="utf-8" />
+ <title>Mageia - een nieuwe Linux distributie - </title>
+ <meta name="description" content="Mageia is new community-based Linux distribution." />
+ <meta name="keywords" content="mageia, linux, mandriva, free software" />
+ <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="/styles/all.css" />
+ <script type="text/javascript">
+
+ var _gaq = _gaq || [];
+ _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-18603191-1']);
+ _gaq.push(['_setDomainName', '.mageia.org']);
+ _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);
+
+ (function() {
+ var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true;
+ ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? 'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js';
+ var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s);
+ })();
+
+ </script>
+
+</head>
+<body>
+ <p class="loc"><a href="http://mageia.org/nl/">Mageia</a>
+ | <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/">Join us!</a>
+ | <a href="http://mageia.org/nl/#contact">IRC, mailing-lists</a>
+ | <a href="http://blog.mageia.org/">Blog</a>
+
+ | <a href="http://mageia.org/press/">Press reviews</a>
+ | <a href="http://donate.mageia.org/nl/" class="sel">Donations</a>
+ </p>
+ <p class="loc"><a href="/de/">Deutsch</a>
+ | <a href="/el/">Ελληνικά</a>
+ | <a href="/">English</a>
+ | <a href="/es/">Español</a>
+ | <a href="/fi/">Suomeksi</a>
+ | <a href="/fr/">Français</a>
+ | <a href="/it/">Italiano</a>
+ | <a href="/nb/">Bokmål</a>
+ | <a href="/nl/" class="sel">Nederlands</a>
+ | <a href="/pl/">Polski</a>
+ | <a href="/pt-br/">Português do Brasil</a>
+ | <a href="/ru/">Русский</a>
+ | <a href="/ro/">Română</a>
+ | <a href="/tr/">Türkçe</a>
+ | <a href="/sl/">Slovenščina</a>
+
+ </p>
+ <div id="doc" class="yui-t7">
+ <div id="hd" role="banner"><h1>Mageia <span>&ndash; een nieuwe Linux distributie</span></h1>
+ <h2>Donnatie-campagne</h2></div>
+ <div id="bd" role="main">
+ <div class="yui-g">
+ <div class="para">
+
+ De recente lancering van
+ <a href="http://mageia.org/">Mageia</a> heeft veel positieve reacties opgeleverd. Deze kwamen tot uitdrukking in de vorm van tal van aanbiedingen om te helpen.<br /><br />
+
+ Momenteel hebben we nog geen structuur om een non-profit organisatie voor de distributie te beheren.
+ <br><br> Om aan de verwachtingen te voldoen en om de infrastructuur die nodig is voor de ontwikkeling zo snel mogelijk te realiseren, zal de Franstalige Mandriva Users Association (AUFML -
+ <a href="http://mandrivafr.org/">http://mandrivafr.org</a>) voorlopig zorg dragen voor de ontvangen giften en deze volledig overdragen aan het Mageia project.
+
+
+ De statuten van de AUFML (artikel 3-2-3) voorzien in deze mogelijkheid « [De organisatie heeft als doel] de bescherming en verspreiding van vrije software in het algemeen en dit door materiële, intellectuele en financiële ondersteuning, volgens de middelen van de organisatie, de vrije projecten, iedere privaatrechterlijke of publieke organisatie die promotie maakt voor de vrije software of voor het bedrijf Mandriva ». <br><br>
+
+
+
+ Deze situatie is slechts tijdelijk. Zodra de Mageia-organisatie opgericht is en over een eigen bankrekening beschikt, kunnen we de giften rechtstreeks ontvangen.<br><br>
+
+ De AUFML belooft van haar kant volledige transparantie omtrent alle ontvangen donnaties.<br><br>
+
+ Hoe worden deze giften aangewend? Om van start te kunnen gaan met het Mageia project zijn er servers nodig, hosting en registratie van de merk- en domeinnamen van Mageia, registratie van de organisatie enz. Er zal maandelijks een overzicht worden gemaakt van de giften en hoe deze worden gebruikt. Wij vinden volledige transparantie van cruciaal belang.<br><br>
+
+ Momenteel hebben we: <font size="6">€2727.79 !</font> ontvangen.
+ Bedankt allemaal, uw hulp is van harte welkom!<br /><br />
+ Details :
+ <ul>
+
+ <li>Bankoverschrijving: 725 €</li>
+ <li>Cheque: 75 €</li>
+ <li>Paypal: 1927.79 €</li>
+ </ul>
+
+ </div>
+ <div class="para">
+ <h2>Donnatie via bankoverschrijving.</h2>
+
+
+ U kunt donneren via een bankoverschrijving.
+ <strong>Gelieve in de mededeling volgende informatie te vermelden “Mageia - Uw naam - Uw email-adres”, zodat de AUFML de overschrijving kan linken aan het Mageia project.</strong><br><br>
+
+ Maak gebruik van de volgende gegevens voor uw
+ bankoverschrijving:<br><br>
+
+ <style>
+ #rib
+ {
+ border: 2px black solid;
+ }
+ </style>
+
+ <div id="rib">
+
+ <u>In favor of/Begunstigde:</u><br /><br />
+
+ <strong>ASSO UTILISATEURS FRANCOPHONES MANDRIVA LINUX<br />
+ 40 BD JEAN ROSTAND<br />
+ 45800 ST JEAN DE BRAYE<br />
+ FRANCE</strong><br /><br />
+
+ <u>Bank Account/Bankrekeningnummer:</u><br /><br />
+
+ <strong>LA BANQUE POSTALE<br />
+ CENTRE FINANCIER DE CLERMONT FERRAND<br /><br />
+
+ BIC: PSSTFRPPCLE<br /><br />
+
+ IBAN: FR24 2004 1010 0306 7049 6G02 460<br /><br />
+
+ RIB: 20041 01003 0670496G024 60</strong><br /><br />
+
+ <u>Amount/Bedrag:</u><br /><br />
+
+ (Vul hier het bedrag van uw donnatie in €XXX)<br><br>
+
+
+ <u>Mention/Mededeling:</u><br /><br />
+
+ Vul hier de donnatie-mededeling in: Mageia -
+ Uw naam - Uw email-adres)<br>
+ (Indien u niet in de openbare lijst van schenkers
+ wil worden opgenomen, voeg dan het woord anoniem toe aan de omschrijving)
+
+ </div><br /><br />
+
+ <a href="http://mandrivafr.org/dossiers/association/rib-aufml.jpg">Click here to download complete AUFML Bank Identity Data [jpg]</a><br>
+
+
+ </div>
+ <div class="para">
+
+ <h2>Donnatie via cheque</h2>
+
+ U kunt uw donnatie per cheque overmaken (indien u een Franse bankrekening hebt. Indien u woonachtig bent in de Eurozone, maak dan gebruik van een overschrijving).<br><br>
+
+ Stuur uw cheque naar:<br><br>
+ <strong>
+ AUFML<br />
+ 56 rue des TILLEULS<br />
+
+ 92100 BOULOGNE<br />
+ FRANCE<br />
+ </strong>
+
+ <br />
+
+ <strong>Vergeet alstublieft niet een mededeling mee te geven,
+ zodat de AUFML de overschrijving kan linken aan het Mageia project!</strong><br><br>
+
+ (Indien u niet in de openbare lijst van schenkers wil worden opgenomen, geef dit dan aan in de omschrijving).
+
+ </div>
+
+ <div class="para">
+ <h2>>Donneren via PayPal</h2>
+
+ U kunt schenken via PayPal ... klik op de
+ knop:<br><br>
+
+ <div align="center">
+ Paypal disabled (current limit reached). Paypal has to raise the (very low) default limit for us. Please be patient...
+ </div>
+
+ <br /><br />
+
+ (Waarschuwing: PayPal ontvangt een commissie op elke schenking ...
+ dat verklaart het verschil tussen wat u schenkt en wat wij ontvangen).
+
+
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ <div class="yui-g">
+ <div class="yui-u first">
+ <div class="para">
+ <h2>Hoe kan u met ons in contact komen?</h2>
+
+ <h3><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/">Mailing-lists</a></h3>
+
+ <h3>IRC (Freenode network)</h3>
+
+ <ul>
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia">#mageia</a> (English),</li>
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-dev">#mageia-dev</a> (developers channel, English),</li>
+
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-kde">#mageia-kde</a> (KDE-specific channel),</li>
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-br">#mageia-br</a> (Português do Brasil),</li>
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-de">#mageia-de</a> (Deutsch),</li>
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-fi">#mageia-fi</a> (Finnish),</li>
+
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-fr">#mageia-fr</a> (français),</li>
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-es">#mageia-es</a> (Español),</li>
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-it">#mageia-it</a> (Italiano),</li>
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-no">#mageia-no</a> (Norsk),</li>
+
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-pl">#mageia-pl</a> (Polski),</li>
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-ru">#mageia-ru</a> (Русский),</li>
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-uk">#mageia-uk</a> (English)</li>
+ </ul>
+
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ <div class="yui-u">
+ <div class="para"><h2>Donators</h2>
+ (Geduld: de lijst van schenkers wordt manueel bijgewerkt)
+ <br><br>
+
+ 1: Pascal Vilarem ( Maât )<br />
+
+ 2: Vicente Salvador Cubedo<br />
+ 3: Samuel Verschelde ( Stormi )<br />
+ 4: Frédéric Hugot<br />
+ 5: Jonathan Bayle<br />
+ 6: Markus Schimpf ( arno911 )<br />
+ 7: HTJ Simons<br />
+
+ 8: François Jaouen<br />
+ 9: Josep Guallar-Esteve<br />
+ 10: Daniel Le Berre<br />
+ 11: Richard Neill<br />
+ 12: Peter Trussel<br />
+ 13: Marc Pare<br />
+
+ 14: Dave Postles<br />
+ 15: Basilio Rosa<br />
+ 16: George Mitchell<br />
+ 17: Louis Ramel<br />
+ 18: Tomislav Jankovic<br />
+ 19: Alexandre Lucazeau<br />
+
+ 20: Michael Golden<br />
+ 21: Jean Peyratout<br />
+ 22: Philippe Seraphin<br />
+ 23: Bernard Siaud<br />
+ 24: Luis Maria Garcia Ruiperez<br />
+ 25: Céline Harrand<br />
+
+ 26: Ángel Jiménez Álvaro<br />
+ 27: Jean-Michel Varvou ( vouf )<br />
+ 28: Margot Lawrence<br />
+ 29: Teofilo Casares De La Iglesia<br />
+ 30: Steven Hess<br />
+ 31: Erwien Yustitiawan<br />
+
+ 32: Thibaut François<br />
+ 33: Bernd Deinzer<br />
+ 34: Roland Gillard<br />
+ 35: Dušan Pavlík<br />
+ 36: Enrico Gsell<br />
+ 37: Ernst Pini<br />
+
+ 38: Dick Gevers<br />
+ 39: Gonzalo Igartua<br />
+ 40: Alexander Andreyev<br />
+ 41: Frank Eisele<br />
+ 42: Björn Olsson<br />
+ 43: Lanfranco Gandolfo<br />
+
+ 44: Gerardo Bueno Jiménez<br />
+ 45: Murat Demir<br />
+ 46: Николай Путроенок ( nick7rus )<br />
+ 47: Alfred Lang<br />
+ 48: Antonio Pimentel<br />
+ 49: Olivier Mergnac<br />
+
+ 50: Marianne Lombard<br />
+ 51: Eduardo Llana Ugalde<br />
+ 52: Derek Jennings<br />
+ 53: Brian Saunderson<br />
+ 54: Abel Rodríguez Reádigos<br />
+ 55: Barry Jackson<br />
+
+ 56: Mike Burgener<br />
+ 57: Jin-tong Hu<br />
+ 58: Jani J Välimaa<br />
+ 59: Jose Fernández Rosa<br />
+ 60: Pierre Bonneau<br />
+ 61: Richard Monnier<br />
+
+ 62: Frederic Forjan<br />
+ 63: Vincent Calame<br />
+ 64: Renaud Michel<br />
+ 65: Sahaghian<br />
+ 66: Wolfgagn Bornath ( wobo )<br />
+ 67: Werner Brinkmann<br />
+
+ 68: Serge Moreau<br />
+ 69: Jean Goujoun<br />
+
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+</body>
+
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 19:50, Mat <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:maat-ml@vilarem.net">maat-ml@vilarem.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+
+
+
+
+<div><div class="h5"><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote">
+ </div>
+I finally got my (busy) native speaker on the line.<br>
+She will send me a better version late this night, or tomorrow.<br>
+I will transmit it.<br>
+ <br>
+</blockquote></div></div><br>
+
+Cool news. <br>
+<br>
+Thanks to you three :)<br>
+<br><br></div></blockquote></div>Here is the result (for <a href="http://donation.mageia.org/nl/">http://donation.mageia.org/nl/</a>)<br clear="all"><br>-- <br><br>Frederic<br>
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+<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
+<!DOCTYPE html>
+<html dir="ltr" lang="nl">
+<head>
+ <meta charset="utf-8" />
+ <title>Mageia - een nieuwe Linux distributie - </title>
+ <meta name="description" content="Mageia is new community-based Linux distribution." />
+ <meta name="keywords" content="mageia, linux, mandriva, free software" />
+ <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="/styles/all.css" />
+ <script type="text/javascript">
+
+ var _gaq = _gaq || [];
+ _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-18603191-1']);
+ _gaq.push(['_setDomainName', '.mageia.org']);
+ _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);
+
+ (function() {
+ var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true;
+ ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? 'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js';
+ var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s);
+ })();
+
+ </script>
+
+</head>
+<body>
+ <p class="loc"><a href="http://mageia.org/nl/">Mageia</a>
+ | <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/">Join us!</a>
+ | <a href="http://mageia.org/nl/#contact">IRC, mailing-lists</a>
+ | <a href="http://blog.mageia.org/">Blog</a>
+
+ | <a href="http://mageia.org/press/">Press reviews</a>
+ | <a href="http://donate.mageia.org/nl/" class="sel">Donations</a>
+ </p>
+ <p class="loc"><a href="/de/">Deutsch</a>
+ | <a href="/el/">Ελληνικά</a>
+ | <a href="/">English</a>
+ | <a href="/es/">Español</a>
+ | <a href="/fi/">Suomeksi</a>
+ | <a href="/fr/">Français</a>
+ | <a href="/it/">Italiano</a>
+ | <a href="/nb/">Bokmål</a>
+ | <a href="/nl/" class="sel">Nederlands</a>
+ | <a href="/pl/">Polski</a>
+ | <a href="/pt-br/">Português do Brasil</a>
+ | <a href="/ru/">Русский</a>
+ | <a href="/ro/">Română</a>
+ | <a href="/tr/">Türkçe</a>
+ | <a href="/sl/">Slovenščina</a>
+
+ </p>
+ <div id="doc" class="yui-t7">
+ <div id="hd" role="banner"><h1>Mageia <span>&ndash; een nieuwe Linux distributie</span></h1>
+ <h2>Donnatie-campagne</h2></div>
+ <div id="bd" role="main">
+ <div class="yui-g">
+ <div class="para">
+
+ De recente lancering van
+ <a href="http://mageia.org/">Mageia</a> heeft veel positieve reacties opgeleverd. Deze kwamen tot uitdrukking in de vorm van tal van aanbiedingen om te helpen.<br /><br />
+
+ Momenteel hebben we nog geen structuur om een non-profit organisatie voor de distributie te beheren.
+ <br><br> Om aan de verwachtingen te voldoen en om de infrastructuur die nodig is voor de ontwikkeling zo snel mogelijk te realiseren, zal de Franstalige Mandriva Users Association (AUFML -
+ <a href="http://mandrivafr.org/">http://mandrivafr.org</a>) voorlopig zorg dragen voor de ontvangen giften en deze volledig overdragen aan het Mageia project.
+
+
+ De statuten van de AUFML (artikel 3-2-3) voorzien in deze mogelijkheid « [De organisatie heeft als doel] de bescherming en verspreiding van vrije software in het algemeen en dit door materiële, intellectuele en financiële ondersteuning, volgens de middelen van de organisatie, de vrije projecten, iedere privaatrechterlijke of publieke organisatie die promotie maakt voor de vrije software of voor het bedrijf Mandriva ». <br><br>
+
+
+
+ Deze situatie is slechts tijdelijk. Zodra de Mageia-organisatie opgericht is en over een eigen bankrekening beschikt, kunnen we de giften rechtstreeks ontvangen.<br><br>
+
+ De AUFML belooft van haar kant volledige transparantie omtrent alle ontvangen donnaties.<br><br>
+
+ Hoe worden deze giften aangewend? Om van start te kunnen gaan met het Mageia project zijn er servers nodig, hosting en registratie van de merk- en domeinnamen van Mageia, registratie van de organisatie enz. Er zal maandelijks een overzicht worden gemaakt van de giften en hoe deze worden gebruikt. Wij vinden volledige transparantie van cruciaal belang.<br><br>
+
+ Momenteel hebben we: <font size="6">€2727.79 !</font> ontvangen.
+ Bedankt allemaal, uw hulp is van harte welkom!<br /><br />
+ Details :
+ <ul>
+
+ <li>Bankoverschrijving: 725 €</li>
+ <li>Cheque: 75 €</li>
+ <li>Paypal: 1927.79 €</li>
+ </ul>
+
+ </div>
+ <div class="para">
+ <h2>Donnatie via bankoverschrijving.</h2>
+
+
+ U kunt donneren via een bankoverschrijving.
+ <strong>Gelieve in de mededeling volgende informatie te vermelden “Mageia - Uw naam - Uw email-adres”, zodat de AUFML de overschrijving kan linken aan het Mageia project.</strong><br><br>
+
+ Maak gebruik van de volgende gegevens voor uw
+ bankoverschrijving:<br><br>
+
+ <style>
+ #rib
+ {
+ border: 2px black solid;
+ }
+ </style>
+
+ <div id="rib">
+
+ <u>In favor of/Begunstigde:</u><br /><br />
+
+ <strong>ASSO UTILISATEURS FRANCOPHONES MANDRIVA LINUX<br />
+ 40 BD JEAN ROSTAND<br />
+ 45800 ST JEAN DE BRAYE<br />
+ FRANCE</strong><br /><br />
+
+ <u>Bank Account/Bankrekeningnummer:</u><br /><br />
+
+ <strong>LA BANQUE POSTALE<br />
+ CENTRE FINANCIER DE CLERMONT FERRAND<br /><br />
+
+ BIC: PSSTFRPPCLE<br /><br />
+
+ IBAN: FR24 2004 1010 0306 7049 6G02 460<br /><br />
+
+ RIB: 20041 01003 0670496G024 60</strong><br /><br />
+
+ <u>Amount/Bedrag:</u><br /><br />
+
+ (Vul hier het bedrag van uw donnatie in €XXX)<br><br>
+
+
+ <u>Mention/Mededeling:</u><br /><br />
+
+ Vul hier de donnatie-mededeling in: Mageia -
+ Uw naam - Uw email-adres)<br>
+ (Indien u niet in de openbare lijst van schenkers
+ wil worden opgenomen, voeg dan het woord anoniem toe aan de omschrijving)
+
+ </div><br /><br />
+
+ <a href="http://mandrivafr.org/dossiers/association/rib-aufml.jpg">Click here to download complete AUFML Bank Identity Data [jpg]</a><br>
+
+
+ </div>
+ <div class="para">
+
+ <h2>Donnatie via cheque</h2>
+
+ U kunt uw donnatie per cheque overmaken (indien u een Franse bankrekening hebt. Indien u woonachtig bent in de Eurozone, maak dan gebruik van een overschrijving).<br><br>
+
+ Stuur uw cheque naar:<br><br>
+ <strong>
+ AUFML<br />
+ 56 rue des TILLEULS<br />
+
+ 92100 BOULOGNE<br />
+ FRANCE<br />
+ </strong>
+
+ <br />
+
+ <strong>Vergeet alstublieft niet een mededeling mee te geven,
+ zodat de AUFML de overschrijving kan linken aan het Mageia project!</strong><br><br>
+
+ (Indien u niet in de openbare lijst van schenkers wil worden opgenomen, geef dit dan aan in de omschrijving).
+
+ </div>
+
+ <div class="para">
+ <h2>>Donneren via PayPal</h2>
+
+ U kunt schenken via PayPal ... klik op de
+ knop:<br><br>
+
+ <div align="center">
+ Paypal disabled (current limit reached). Paypal has to raise the (very low) default limit for us. Please be patient...
+ </div>
+
+ <br /><br />
+
+ (Waarschuwing: PayPal ontvangt een commissie op elke schenking ...
+ dat verklaart het verschil tussen wat u schenkt en wat wij ontvangen).
+
+
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ <div class="yui-g">
+ <div class="yui-u first">
+ <div class="para">
+ <h2>Hoe kan u met ons in contact komen?</h2>
+
+ <h3><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/">Mailing-lists</a></h3>
+
+ <h3>IRC (Freenode network)</h3>
+
+ <ul>
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia">#mageia</a> (English),</li>
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-dev">#mageia-dev</a> (developers channel, English),</li>
+
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-kde">#mageia-kde</a> (KDE-specific channel),</li>
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-br">#mageia-br</a> (Português do Brasil),</li>
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-de">#mageia-de</a> (Deutsch),</li>
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-fi">#mageia-fi</a> (Finnish),</li>
+
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-fr">#mageia-fr</a> (français),</li>
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-es">#mageia-es</a> (Español),</li>
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-it">#mageia-it</a> (Italiano),</li>
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-no">#mageia-no</a> (Norsk),</li>
+
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-pl">#mageia-pl</a> (Polski),</li>
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-ru">#mageia-ru</a> (Русский),</li>
+ <li><a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-uk">#mageia-uk</a> (English)</li>
+ </ul>
+
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ <div class="yui-u">
+ <div class="para"><h2>Donators</h2>
+ (Geduld: de lijst van schenkers wordt manueel bijgewerkt)
+ <br><br>
+
+ 1: Pascal Vilarem ( Maât )<br />
+
+ 2: Vicente Salvador Cubedo<br />
+ 3: Samuel Verschelde ( Stormi )<br />
+ 4: Frédéric Hugot<br />
+ 5: Jonathan Bayle<br />
+ 6: Markus Schimpf ( arno911 )<br />
+ 7: HTJ Simons<br />
+
+ 8: François Jaouen<br />
+ 9: Josep Guallar-Esteve<br />
+ 10: Daniel Le Berre<br />
+ 11: Richard Neill<br />
+ 12: Peter Trussel<br />
+ 13: Marc Pare<br />
+
+ 14: Dave Postles<br />
+ 15: Basilio Rosa<br />
+ 16: George Mitchell<br />
+ 17: Louis Ramel<br />
+ 18: Tomislav Jankovic<br />
+ 19: Alexandre Lucazeau<br />
+
+ 20: Michael Golden<br />
+ 21: Jean Peyratout<br />
+ 22: Philippe Seraphin<br />
+ 23: Bernard Siaud<br />
+ 24: Luis Maria Garcia Ruiperez<br />
+ 25: Céline Harrand<br />
+
+ 26: Ángel Jiménez Álvaro<br />
+ 27: Jean-Michel Varvou ( vouf )<br />
+ 28: Margot Lawrence<br />
+ 29: Teofilo Casares De La Iglesia<br />
+ 30: Steven Hess<br />
+ 31: Erwien Yustitiawan<br />
+
+ 32: Thibaut François<br />
+ 33: Bernd Deinzer<br />
+ 34: Roland Gillard<br />
+ 35: Dušan Pavlík<br />
+ 36: Enrico Gsell<br />
+ 37: Ernst Pini<br />
+
+ 38: Dick Gevers<br />
+ 39: Gonzalo Igartua<br />
+ 40: Alexander Andreyev<br />
+ 41: Frank Eisele<br />
+ 42: Björn Olsson<br />
+ 43: Lanfranco Gandolfo<br />
+
+ 44: Gerardo Bueno Jiménez<br />
+ 45: Murat Demir<br />
+ 46: Николай Путроенок ( nick7rus )<br />
+ 47: Alfred Lang<br />
+ 48: Antonio Pimentel<br />
+ 49: Olivier Mergnac<br />
+
+ 50: Marianne Lombard<br />
+ 51: Eduardo Llana Ugalde<br />
+ 52: Derek Jennings<br />
+ 53: Brian Saunderson<br />
+ 54: Abel Rodríguez Reádigos<br />
+ 55: Barry Jackson<br />
+
+ 56: Mike Burgener<br />
+ 57: Jin-tong Hu<br />
+ 58: Jani J Välimaa<br />
+ 59: Jose Fernández Rosa<br />
+ 60: Pierre Bonneau<br />
+ 61: Richard Monnier<br />
+
+ 62: Frederic Forjan<br />
+ 63: Vincent Calame<br />
+ 64: Renaud Michel<br />
+ 65: Sahaghian<br />
+ 66: Wolfgagn Bornath ( wobo )<br />
+ 67: Werner Brinkmann<br />
+
+ 68: Serge Moreau<br />
+ 69: Jean Goujoun<br />
+
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+</body>
+
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 19:50, Mat <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:maat-ml@vilarem.net">maat-ml@vilarem.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+
+
+
+
+<div><div class="h5"><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote">
+ </div>
+I finally got my (busy) native speaker on the line.<br>
+She will send me a better version late this night, or tomorrow.<br>
+I will transmit it.<br>
+ <br>
+</blockquote></div></div><br>
+
+Cool news. <br>
+<br>
+Thanks to you three :)<br>
+<br><br></div></blockquote></div>Here is the result (for <a href="http://donation.mageia.org/nl/">http://donation.mageia.org/nl/</a>)<br clear="all"><br>-- <br><br>Frederic<br>
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+Hi Andr<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/28 andr <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:andr55@laposte.net">andr55@laposte.net</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<br>
+Please try it, I&#39;d like to see if it would really work.<br>
+Good luck :)<br>
+<br>
+my 2 cents<br><font color="#888888">
+- andr<br>
+</font></blockquote></div>thanks for the feedback, i have the workstation on my house, so i will make the try this night :) <br><br>regards<br>P.<br><br>
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+Hi Andr<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/28 andr <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:andr55@laposte.net">andr55@laposte.net</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<br>
+Please try it, I&#39;d like to see if it would really work.<br>
+Good luck :)<br>
+<br>
+my 2 cents<br><font color="#888888">
+- andr<br>
+</font></blockquote></div>thanks for the feedback, i have the workstation on my house, so i will make the try this night :) <br><br>regards<br>P.<br><br>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+<head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
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+<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+# Post did not go through; resending.<br>
+<br>
+Yea, I think the design looks good for boot splash, other than the name
+being hard to read.<br>
+<br>
+Wayne Sallee<br>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Wayne@WayneSallee.com">Wayne@WayneSallee.com</a><br>
+<br>
+Binary Trance wrote on 09/28/2010 07:16 AM:
+<blockquote
+ cite="mid:AANLkTikcXCF4fRxfaaWfX6N=-shVSO0d39Mj+4ehfgWJ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">Hi Wayne <br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/28 Wayne Sallee <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
+ moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Wayne@waynesallee.com">Wayne@waynesallee.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
+ style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I
+think
+it's too large of a logo (when you include all the lines), and
+it's too hard to understand the name.<br>
+The line pattern might make a good desktop design.<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+I just another proposal no more no less, the idea was thinking on a
+bootsplash concept, and the logo precisely <br>
+runs on transgession of the interpretation of the name :) its
+absolutely intentional :) <br>
+ <br>
+anyway theres a lot of option, and as i said, just for the pleasrure
+for share things...<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+regards<br>
+P.<br>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+</blockquote>
+</body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+<head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+</head>
+<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+# Post did not go through; resending.<br>
+<br>
+Yea, I think the design looks good for boot splash, other than the name
+being hard to read.<br>
+<br>
+Wayne Sallee<br>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Wayne@WayneSallee.com">Wayne@WayneSallee.com</a><br>
+<br>
+Binary Trance wrote on 09/28/2010 07:16 AM:
+<blockquote
+ cite="mid:AANLkTikcXCF4fRxfaaWfX6N=-shVSO0d39Mj+4ehfgWJ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">Hi Wayne <br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/28 Wayne Sallee <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
+ moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Wayne@waynesallee.com">Wayne@waynesallee.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
+ style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I
+think
+it's too large of a logo (when you include all the lines), and
+it's too hard to understand the name.<br>
+The line pattern might make a good desktop design.<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+I just another proposal no more no less, the idea was thinking on a
+bootsplash concept, and the logo precisely <br>
+runs on transgession of the interpretation of the name :) its
+absolutely intentional :) <br>
+ <br>
+anyway theres a lot of option, and as i said, just for the pleasrure
+for share things...<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+regards<br>
+P.<br>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+</blockquote>
+</body>
+</html>
+
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Hoyt Duff <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:hoytduff@gmail.com">hoytduff@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<div class="im">On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Binary Trance &lt;<a href="mailto:binarytrance@gmail.com">binarytrance@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+<br>
+&gt;&gt; Please be careful of your attributions. I didn&#39;t write that. If you&#39;re<br>
+&gt;&gt; going<br>
+&gt;&gt; to edit out a person&#39;s words edit out his name also.<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; Dale Huckeby<br>
+&gt;<br>
+<br>
+</div>Dale, I apologize for my sloppy trimming. With all the nested replies,<br>
+over-quoting and top-posting, it gets a little jumbled at times.<br>
+<br>
+And I now see how badly GMail sucks at reading mail lists.<br>
+<br>
+--<br>
+<font color="#888888">Hoyt<br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br>I like Gmail at reading, but writing a new message is annoying due to top posting.<br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Hoyt Duff <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:hoytduff@gmail.com">hoytduff@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<div class="im">On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Binary Trance &lt;<a href="mailto:binarytrance@gmail.com">binarytrance@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+<br>
+&gt;&gt; Please be careful of your attributions. I didn&#39;t write that. If you&#39;re<br>
+&gt;&gt; going<br>
+&gt;&gt; to edit out a person&#39;s words edit out his name also.<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; Dale Huckeby<br>
+&gt;<br>
+<br>
+</div>Dale, I apologize for my sloppy trimming. With all the nested replies,<br>
+over-quoting and top-posting, it gets a little jumbled at times.<br>
+<br>
+And I now see how badly GMail sucks at reading mail lists.<br>
+<br>
+--<br>
+<font color="#888888">Hoyt<br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br>I like Gmail at reading, but writing a new message is annoying due to top posting.<br>
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+<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi everyone,<div><br></div><div>Going to throw out an idea born by the members on <a href="http://Mageia-se.org">Mageia-se.org</a> about the handling of translations.</div><div>This might be an obvious idea, and if so we'll be happy :-)</div><div><br></div><div>I'm going to quote the text i wrote in #mageia since i currently feel too lazy to re-write it. Hope you understand what i'm trying to say with the text.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; ">"Had a discussion on <a href="http://Mageia-se.org">Mageia-se.org</a> where we talked about making translations of the disto from the community itself. The suggestion, that i wanted to run by someone before putting on the mailist, is that each country community starts a section (a wiki for example) where all the members of that community are able to translate as much as they are able and then, when reaching a certain percent translated, the translation is returned to the main developer team for implementation."</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Lucida Grande'"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Lucida Grande'">"the main motivation from the members on <a href="http://mageia-se.org">mageia-se.org</a> was that everyone could feel apart of the work and feel useful since even only translating one word would be a contribution."<br></font><div>
+<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br></div><div>----</div><div><br></div><div>Betygstt grna mitt mail!</div><div><a href="http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/">http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/</a></div><div><br></div><div>----</div><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">Best Regards / Vnligen ,</div><div><br></div><div>Stockholm Next Generation Web</div><div>David V. Wallin</div><div>+46 (0)8 4100 39 82</div><div><a href="http://www.ngweb.se">http://www.ngweb.se</a></div><div><a href="mailto:david@ngweb.se">david@ngweb.se</a></div><div><br></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span>
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+<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi everyone,<div><br></div><div>Going to throw out an idea born by the members on <a href="http://Mageia-se.org">Mageia-se.org</a> about the handling of translations.</div><div>This might be an obvious idea, and if so we'll be happy :-)</div><div><br></div><div>I'm going to quote the text i wrote in #mageia since i currently feel too lazy to re-write it. Hope you understand what i'm trying to say with the text.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; ">"Had a discussion on <a href="http://Mageia-se.org">Mageia-se.org</a> where we talked about making translations of the disto from the community itself. The suggestion, that i wanted to run by someone before putting on the mailist, is that each country community starts a section (a wiki for example) where all the members of that community are able to translate as much as they are able and then, when reaching a certain percent translated, the translation is returned to the main developer team for implementation."</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Lucida Grande'"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Lucida Grande'">"the main motivation from the members on <a href="http://mageia-se.org">mageia-se.org</a> was that everyone could feel apart of the work and feel useful since even only translating one word would be a contribution."<br></font><div>
+<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br></div><div>----</div><div><br></div><div>Betygstt grna mitt mail!</div><div><a href="http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/">http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/</a></div><div><br></div><div>----</div><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">Best Regards / Vnligen ,</div><div><br></div><div>Stockholm Next Generation Web</div><div>David V. Wallin</div><div>+46 (0)8 4100 39 82</div><div><a href="http://www.ngweb.se">http://www.ngweb.se</a></div><div><a href="mailto:david@ngweb.se">david@ngweb.se</a></div><div><br></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span>
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+<html>
+<head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+</head>
+<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+On 09/28/2010 10:13 AM, Thomas Lottmann wrote:
+<blockquote cite="mid:4CA1A3C3.8080801@gmail.com" type="cite">
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+Le 26/09/2010 22:50, Rory Albertyn a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:4C9FB22A.1090900@radiantnet.co.za" type="cite">Greetings,
+
+ <br>
+ <br>
+A South African user community has started. The IRC channel is
+#mageia-za on freenode. <br>
+ <br>
+I would like to thank those of you who assisted and would like to
+request a mailing list and links on the website. <br>
+ <br>
+~ Rory (Gripen on Freenode) <br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <font face="Liberation Sans">Thank you very much!<br>
+ <br>
+In fact, I think this would really be great and helpful to also support
+afrikaans and people from South Africa. <span class="moz-smiley-s1"><span>
+:-) </span></span><br>
+ <br>
+Skiper.<br>
+ </font> </blockquote>
+<br>
+Work on the South African site has begun. mageia-za.org should have
+propagated by now as well. I think&nbsp; buddypress would work nicely as a
+community site as it fits most of our needs. Any comments, constructive
+criticism and input on this would be most welcome. It is a community
+after all. <br>
+<br>
+Skiper, Afrikaans will indeed be supported on par with English. French
+translation could also be looked at for those speaking the language in
+the Southern African regions too.<br>
+<br>
+Once the Site is up, I'll be looking at potential mirrors for the ZA
+users.<br>
+<br>
+~ Rory (Gripen on Freenode)<br>
+</body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+<head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+</head>
+<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+On 09/28/2010 10:13 AM, Thomas Lottmann wrote:
+<blockquote cite="mid:4CA1A3C3.8080801@gmail.com" type="cite">
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+Le 26/09/2010 22:50, Rory Albertyn a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:4C9FB22A.1090900@radiantnet.co.za" type="cite">Greetings,
+
+ <br>
+ <br>
+A South African user community has started. The IRC channel is
+#mageia-za on freenode. <br>
+ <br>
+I would like to thank those of you who assisted and would like to
+request a mailing list and links on the website. <br>
+ <br>
+~ Rory (Gripen on Freenode) <br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <font face="Liberation Sans">Thank you very much!<br>
+ <br>
+In fact, I think this would really be great and helpful to also support
+afrikaans and people from South Africa. <span class="moz-smiley-s1"><span>
+:-) </span></span><br>
+ <br>
+Skiper.<br>
+ </font> </blockquote>
+<br>
+Work on the South African site has begun. mageia-za.org should have
+propagated by now as well. I think&nbsp; buddypress would work nicely as a
+community site as it fits most of our needs. Any comments, constructive
+criticism and input on this would be most welcome. It is a community
+after all. <br>
+<br>
+Skiper, Afrikaans will indeed be supported on par with English. French
+translation could also be looked at for those speaking the language in
+the Southern African regions too.<br>
+<br>
+Once the Site is up, I'll be looking at potential mirrors for the ZA
+users.<br>
+<br>
+~ Rory (Gripen on Freenode)<br>
+</body>
+</html>