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Request to open discussion logs of the board about the Mandriva +</I>>><i> agreement +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I'm referring to the announcements wrt the collaboration with Mandriva +</I>>><i> SA and the usage of the Mageia distribution as base for server +</I>>><i> products, as announced in the blog entry: +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/05/21/mageia-comes-full-circle/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/05/21/mageia-comes-full-circle/</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> 1. I am NOT against any of the points mentioned there, so pls do not +</I>>><i> take this as an unfriendly act or even a lack of trust in the board or +</I>>><i> single members of the board. This it is definitely NOT! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> 2. I respect the need for non-disclosure by the Mandriva SA side while +</I>>><i> these negotiations/discussions were going on. I also respect the fact +</I>>><i> that the internal discussions of the board about the matter were not +</I>>><i> to be held in public at that time. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Now the announcements were made in public these reasons for +</I>>><i> non-disclosure are not valid any more. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> **Therefore I request the logs of the internal discussions of the +</I>>><i> board about this matter to be opened to the public and this opening +</I>>><i> being announced to the public.** +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I am positively sure that 2 weeks are more than enough to decide on +</I>>><i> this request. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Reasons: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> 1. Transparency is a top requirement for such a project as Mageia. The +</I>>><i> more this transparency is needed if the matter is of great interest to +</I>>><i> all members of the Mageia community. If the transparency can not be +</I>>><i> provided because of valid reasons (as has been the case here) it +</I>>><i> should be established as soon as these reasons are not valid any more. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> 2. The following questions are not answered by a mere announcement: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i>  - was the decision to enter the agreement with Mandriva SA unanimous +</I>>><i> or were there votes against it? +</I>>><i>  - if there were votes against it who were the people voting in favor +</I>>><i> and who votest against it? +</I>>><i>  - what were the arguments of both sides +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> These questions can only be answered by opening the internal logs +</I>>><i> concerning this matter. +</I>>><i> Again: this request only concerns the *internal* discussions in the +</I>>><i> Mageia board, not any discussions with external entities (namely +</I>>><i> Croset and/or Mandriva SA). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Here are the details. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> After first contacts, the discussion took place on council mailing-list (see +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/l/arc/council/2012-03/msg00078.html">https://ml.mageia.org/l/arc/council/2012-03/msg00078.html</A>). But after +</I>><i> Mandriva wish we did go on on closed discussions, as explained wy Wobo in +</I>><i> his mail. But at that point consensus was already there. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Second step happened after a second meeting with Mandriva. We mailed a +</I>><i> summary of this meeting on board-private first and get an agreement of *all* +</I>><i>  board members about the way we wanted to manage Mandriva proposal. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Then on third step, a mail about all this has been sent directly to all +</I>><i> council members proposing a way to handle all this. Then people went +</I>><i> directly to pad to work on public announcement. Nobody expressed any +</I>><i> disagreement. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You can see this pad, it's still available here: +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://pad.riseup.net/p/mdv-foundation">https://pad.riseup.net/p/mdv-foundation</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You can also see all private discussions (mails) here: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/org/mails/board-private-mandriva-2012-archive/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/org/mails/board-private-mandriva-2012-archive/</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/org/mails/council-private-mandriva-2012-archive/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/org/mails/council-private-mandriva-2012-archive/</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +Thanks Anne and all members of Board / Council for the fast and +understand way you handled this. + +Request closed (except for the contact issue) + +A good solution for the contact issue was given by Nicolas (IIRC): +Send the request like I did to mageia-discuss (with this formal tag +in the subect) and add the matching contact address (board or council) +in CC. + +BTW:<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/contact/">http://www.mageia.org/en/contact/</A> gives NOT FOUND when called from +<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/map/">http://www.mageia.org/en/map/</A> + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007570.html">[Mageia-discuss] Formal request to the Board/Council +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007569.html">[Mageia-discuss] New install - nearly black screen after reboot - Laptop +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7572">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7572">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7572">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7572">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |