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Request to open discussion logs of the board about the Mandriva agreement + +I'm referring to the announcements wrt the collaboration with Mandriva +SA and the usage of the Mageia distribution as base for server +products, as announced in the blog entry: +<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/05/21/mageia-comes-full-circle/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/05/21/mageia-comes-full-circle/</A> + +1. I am NOT against any of the points mentioned there, so pls do not +take this as an unfriendly act or even a lack of trust in the board or +single members of the board. This it is definitely NOT! + +2. I respect the need for non-disclosure by the Mandriva SA side while +these negotiations/discussions were going on. I also respect the fact +that the internal discussions of the board about the matter were not +to be held in public at that time. + +Now the announcements were made in public these reasons for +non-disclosure are not valid any more. + +**Therefore I request the logs of the internal discussions of the +board about this matter to be opened to the public and this opening +being announced to the public.** + +I am positively sure that 2 weeks are more than enough to decide on +this request. + +Reasons: + +1. Transparency is a top requirement for such a project as Mageia. The +more this transparency is needed if the matter is of great interest to +all members of the Mageia community. If the transparency can not be +provided because of valid reasons (as has been the case here) it +should be established as soon as these reasons are not valid any more. + +2. The following questions are not answered by a mere announcement: + + - was the decision to enter the agreement with Mandriva SA unanimous +or were there votes against it? + - if there were votes against it who were the people voting in favor +and who votest against it? + - what were the arguments of both sides + +These questions can only be answered by opening the internal logs +concerning this matter. +Again: this request only concerns the *internal* discussions in the +Mageia board, not any discussions with external entities (namely +Croset and/or Mandriva SA). + +------------------------ + +B. Request to put a procedure in place to reach the board / council + +In our organisation there is a well organized structure to forward a +single user's request all the way up to the council / board - but only +if he is a member of a team! + +How can a user who is not member of a team contact the board and/or +the council in an official and public way? Of course there is a mail +address to contact and you can always reach single people of the board +/ council by mail but mails to these contacts are private mails, not +seen by the public and not official. + +The only way I found so far is the one I am using here, hoping that +somebody of the board is reading this. Is there a need for an official +procedure (as I think it is) or do you think this way (via +mageia-discuss) is sufficient? + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007560.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for ncpfs (Requires access to Novell Netware server). +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007562.html">[Mageia-discuss] Formal request to the Board/Council +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7561">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7561">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7561">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7561">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |