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+&gt;<i> Please file a bug!
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+Never mind, I did it myself: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5771">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5771</A>
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+ <B>imnotpc</B>
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+<PRE>Some of my mga2 boxes are recording lines like this:
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+May 5 08:42:38 Cedar1 kernel: [2420746.469695] ll header: 00:11:09:01:8f:2b:00:18:4d:9d:dc:39:08:00
+May 5 08:42:38 Cedar1 kernel: [2420746.470060] martian source 173.194.74.154 from 192.168.3.2, on dev eth0
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+
+I don't know about 'martian', but those IPs are indeed unfamiliar and
+not anything I'm aware of. Any idea what is causing this and if it is
+something to be concerned about?
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+ <B>Doug Lytle</B>
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+<PRE>imnotpc wrote:
+&gt;<i> May 5 08:42:38 Cedar1 kernel: [2420746.469695] ll header:
+</I>&gt;<i> 00:11:09:01:8f:2b:00:18:4d:9d:dc:39:08:00
+</I>&gt;<i> May 5 08:42:38 Cedar1 kernel: [2420746.470060] martian source
+</I>&gt;<i> 173.194.74.154 from 192.168.3.2, on dev eth0
+</I>
+Host shows:
+
+host 173.194.74.154
+
+154.74.194.173.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer qe-in-f154.1e100.net
+
+If you plug in a machine (Or device) that has an ip address that doesn't
+match your network, you'll get martian source notices.
+
+What is the function of the machine that logging this?
+
+Doug
+
+
+--
+Ben Franklin quote:
+
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+ <B>imnotpc</B>
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+<PRE>On 05/06/2012 02:33 PM, Doug Lytle wrote:
+&gt;<i> imnotpc wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> May 5 08:42:38 Cedar1 kernel: [2420746.469695] ll header:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 00:11:09:01:8f:2b:00:18:4d:9d:dc:39:08:00
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> May 5 08:42:38 Cedar1 kernel: [2420746.470060] martian source
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 173.194.74.154 from 192.168.3.2, on dev eth0
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Host shows:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> host 173.194.74.154
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 154.74.194.173.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer qe-in-f154.1e100.net
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you plug in a machine (Or device) that has an ip address that
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't match your network, you'll get martian source notices.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the function of the machine that logging this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Doug
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+The boxes logging these entries are firewall/routers, each on the edge
+of a DMZ and a LAN. The entries don't match the subnet of any of the
+local networks. Wired connections are closely monitored, but wireless
+device access is more lenient.
+
+Jeff
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+ <B>Doug Lytle</B>
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+<PRE>imnotpc wrote:
+&gt;<i> but wireless device access is more lenient.
+</I>
+My thoughts would be someone connecting via the wireless with another
+interface connected as well. We have users that don't understand that
+they don't need to do both wireless and wired. Some times we see
+wireless, wired and vpn.
+
+Just a guess.
+
+Doug
+
+
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+&gt;<i> imnotpc wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but wireless device access is more lenient.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My thoughts would be someone connecting via the wireless with another
+</I>&gt;<i> interface connected as well. We have users that don't understand that
+</I>&gt;<i> they don't need to do both wireless and wired. Some times we see
+</I>&gt;<i> wireless, wired and vpn.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just a guess.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Doug
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+The problem with that is that the firewall rules on these boxes
+immediately log and drop any packet that doesn't come from the subnet
+assigned to that interface. I'm not an expert on iptables but I believe
+that anything coming in on those interfaces would hit iptables and be
+dropped before the kernel log. Even if the kernel saw them first I
+should still see corresponding iptables log entries. The router boxes
+don't have any wireless cards so they aren't generating these entries
+that way. I don't know how a wireless host connecting to a wireless
+router, which has a wired LAN IP on LAN facing interface and uses DHCP
+for the wireless interface, is able to propagate a different IP address
+all the way to the firewall without being translated or dropped. Very
+curious.
+
+Jeff
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+<PRE>Op zondag 06 mei 2012 21:12:14 schreef imnotpc:
+&gt;<i> On 05/06/2012 02:49 PM, Doug Lytle wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; imnotpc wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; but wireless device access is more lenient.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; My thoughts would be someone connecting via the wireless with another
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; interface connected as well. We have users that don't understand that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; they don't need to do both wireless and wired. Some times we see
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wireless, wired and vpn.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Just a guess.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Doug
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The problem with that is that the firewall rules on these boxes
+</I>&gt;<i> immediately log and drop any packet that doesn't come from the subnet
+</I>&gt;<i> assigned to that interface. I'm not an expert on iptables but I believe
+</I>&gt;<i> that anything coming in on those interfaces would hit iptables and be
+</I>&gt;<i> dropped before the kernel log. Even if the kernel saw them first I
+</I>&gt;<i> should still see corresponding iptables log entries. The router boxes
+</I>&gt;<i> don't have any wireless cards so they aren't generating these entries
+</I>&gt;<i> that way. I don't know how a wireless host connecting to a wireless
+</I>&gt;<i> router, which has a wired LAN IP on LAN facing interface and uses DHCP
+</I>&gt;<i> for the wireless interface, is able to propagate a different IP address
+</I>&gt;<i> all the way to the firewall without being translated or dropped. Very
+</I>&gt;<i> curious.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Jeff
+</I>
+Martians are <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_packet">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_packet</A> .
+
+by default, kernels drop these, you can tune these things in /proc somewhere,
+thus also with sysctl.
+
+there may also be a setting about not logging them, best your read up on it,
+if you're interested.
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