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+ <H1>[Mageia-discuss] can bootable partitions be detected during installation?</H1>
+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+ <I>Fri May 4 11:08:05 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>2012/5/4 blind Pete &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">0123peter at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/5/3 blind Pete &lt;0123peter-
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But at which moment/occasion would you need that?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> When do you use the installer?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Incompetent user: every month.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Tester: every week.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia user: every nine months.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No, I meant: at which moment in the install process and for which
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> occasion?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> During a standard install at the start of the configuration section
+</I>&gt;<i> there is a point where there is a message about
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;PREPARING BOOTLOADER&quot; please be patient, searching for other
+</I>&gt;<i> systems, this may take a while, or somthing similar. &#160;Then the
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary pops up.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It could be done before that, immediately after partitioning.
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps if the advanced button were pressed?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Only once when
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> you install the distribution which you think will stay the longest
+</I>&gt;<i> and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> whos bootloader will go into MBR. After that you don't need it any
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> more because you will have to add new distributions manually to the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You can use drakboot as it is now to add &quot;things to be chainloaded&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to the list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But that makes only sense for the bootloader which is in the MBR. So
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you do it once and never again.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Whenever you add a distribution, you put the bootloader of this new
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> one in its root partition. Then you boot the distribution which has
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> its bootloader in the MBR and add the relevant 3 lines into its
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> menu.lst. You can't use drakboot for that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It would make most sense to start with a bootloader in the MBR
+</I>&gt;<i> then go to a root partition bootloader and finaly an operating Lystem,
+</I>&gt;<i> but LiLo and GRUB let you go &quot;up&quot; a level back to the MBR's
+</I>&gt;<i> bootloader, or &quot;sideways&quot;. &#160;e.g. From /dev/sda to /dev/sda12
+</I>&gt;<i> to /dev/sda1 to /dev/sda to /dev/sda2 to an OS. &#160;It can even
+</I>&gt;<i> loop to itself, pointless but it works.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you want to do things like that, then you need to be
+</I>&gt;<i> very careful about how you label things.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do different things get listed in Mageia's bootloader config
+</I>&gt;<i> depending on whether it is written to the MBR or the root
+</I>&gt;<i> partition? &#160;Find everything if going to MBR, only list Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> stuff (and &quot;back&quot;) if going to the root partition?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW I was assuming that every distribution has its own tools.
+</I>&gt;<i> If your &quot;master&quot; installation is Mageia (or even if it is not)
+</I>&gt;<i> you can use drakboot to add chainloader commands to Mageia's
+</I>&gt;<i> GRUB or LiLo configuration.
+</I>
+Well, if you say so, I'm not sure I fully understand what you
+described. Of course I never looked for such an occasion because my
+&quot;steering distribution&quot; (the one with the bootloader in MBR) is a
+small one without X and without any applications except for vim as
+editor (old version of grml, below 100MB) and a few commandline tools
+so it can also serve as a rescue system.
+
+So when I install Mageia after that I go to the summary in the
+installer, configure the bootloader to sit in the root partition of
+Mageia. Then at reboot I boot grml, add the 3 matching lines for the
+Mageia installation to the menu.lst and that's all. Likewise I can do
+with all following installations. I've been doing it for years this
+way.
+
+Of course this is not really something for a totally new user, OTOH a
+totally new user does not have several different distributions on his
+machine. But even such a user will be able to follow instructions (in
+the German mandrivauser.de wiki we have a step-by-step HowTo for
+that).
+
+--
+wobo
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